Still Cool Beans
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I said it before and I'll say it again, if WB was smart they'd do a World's Finest before JL. It'd be just as big if not bigger than Avengers, especially after MOS drops, and much easier to execute.
Still Cool Beans
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Maximus Rex
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWcThis is the trailer that I've been waiting to see. The shit is going to be going down as soon as Zod gets to earth. I get the feeling from the trailer that Snyder has touched on some of things that makes Supes an interesting character, which is his humanity and how he feels more in line with humans even though he's a Kryptonian and how he's going to get intouch with his alien hertiage. Shit is going to be a deep character study.
Also, if y'all haven't peeped game, the nigga Supes isn't going to be able to fight all of those Kryptonians by himself, he's going to need help. I wouldn't be surprised if some other DC character made a cameo, or maybe even Bale as The Batman. I know it's putting a lot on a trailer, but the shit does seem like it's going to be epic.
Maximus Rex;5859285 said:
You think too much like a fanboy and not enough like a realist. That would be too impractical considering this is the movie reintroducing Superman to the world. So the focus needs to be on Superman and his world only. No need for pointless distractions that would pull audiences out of the movie and wouldn't compliment the narrative of making Superman look as best as he could.
Superman is more than capable of rising to the occasion and taking on great challenges no matter how epic they may be. It's a main selling point of the character so best believe he will handle Zod and his army and if he gets help it would be from his supporting cast. As it should be.
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Broddie;5859321 said:
I understand what you are saying, but if Supes did not need any help than there would be no need for a Justice League and what help could none meta humans or other super powered beings provide?
Carthaginian
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gotdamn. I gotta stop watching these trailers lol. Seen the whole damn movie already.
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Raging Raven;5859808 said:
i kinda agree what this nigga is saying cause if superman can take out a army of niggas that got the same powers as him like wtf would be the point of making a JL movie with another villain, when we just seen him singlehanded smash em niggas. (from the point of view of somebody who had no knowledge of comics{no me but the average movie person})
Raging Raven;5859808 said:
Except that with the exception of Darkseid there are no Superman villains that are also Justice League villains. There is a reason they have a separate villains roster for the Justice League. JL is for the threats non of the DC heroes could handle on their own. Which is greater threats than the Brainiacs and Lex Luthors of the DC universe.
Considering not just his strength but also his will power and courage Superman should be able to handle fellow Kryptonians on his own like it's nothing. It's been shown that way in the comic books for over 70 years now. Not saying it's a cakewalk but that's why it's a dramatic conflict it's not there to seem easy. It's there to pose a challenge for him as a solo hero. It's not something to have him screaming for The Flash or Aquaman's help. This is why he's SUPERman and not MEDIOCREman.
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Carthaginian
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I think Supes has an advantage over the evil Kryptonians because he's absorbed more yellow sun radiation over the years than they have
Maximus Rex
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Superman can't fight a gang of Krytonians by himself. The suspension of belief is just too big. He could possibly beat like three maybe four of those niggas, but not a squad, a platoon, a company, and definitely not an army of those niggas, and since there's not going to be krytonite, the nigga is going to need some help. Unless, Lex acts as Metropolis' (and therefore the Earth's savior,) with his exo suit, (but that would be like a blatant swagger jack of Iron Man,). If see MoS as not only an introduction to extraterrisals in the DC movieverse, but the acknowledgment of other metahumans.
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[quote="Broddie;5860207]Except that with the exception of Darkseid there are no Superman villains that are also Justice League villains. [/quote]
Technically Darkseid isn't a Superman rogue, he's a New Gods rogue. He eventually expanded to become a threat to the entire DCU. Kinda like Galactus and Thanos. Galactus was primarily a nemesis of the the FF, but he eventually became a threat to everybody in the Marvel Universe. I don't even know who Thanos was suppose to fight, (I think it was Adam Warlock) but when you have a nigga that decides to kill off half of the universe to impress a bitch, it's obvious that he's a threat to the entire Marvel Universe.
Technically Darkseid isn't a Superman rogue, he's a New Gods rogue. He eventually expanded to become a threat to the entire DCU. Kinda like Galactus and Thanos. Galactus was primarily a nemesis of the the FF, but he eventually became a threat to everybody in the Marvel Universe. I don't even know who Thanos was suppose to fight, (I think it was Adam Warlock) but when you have a nigga that decides to kill off half of the universe to impress a bitch, it's obvious that he's a threat to the entire Marvel Universe.
Maximus Rex;5861407 said:
Yes he can. He may hold back because of the values instilled by the Kents especially in more modern stories but he certainly can. The amount of yellow sun radiation he has absorbed by comparison always gives him the edge strength wise.
Even Lex Luthor who is pretty much his human equal has taken on an army of Kryptonians. Regardless Superman has a supporting cast beyond Lex Luthor if there's a need for help (IE: Prof. Hamilton from S.T.A.R .Labs who is in this movie). There's no need to take attention off Superman's world by having distractions like other DC caped character cameos. Especially since it does nothing for the story they're trying to tell with the movie ("Why Superman's presence is important to this world"). This isn't a Marvel Studios movie.
Maximus Rex;5861425 said:
Technically Darkseid isn't a Superman rogue, he's a New Gods rogue. He eventually expanded to become a threat to the entire DCU. Kinda like Galactus and Thanos. Galactus was primarily a nemesis of the the FF, but he eventually became a threat to everybody in the Marvel Universe. I don't even know who Thanos was suppose to fight, (I think it was Adam Warlock) but when you have a nigga that decides to kill off half of the universe to impress a bitch, it's obvious that he's a threat to the entire Marvel Universe.
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Darkseid first on panel debut was in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 before there even was a New Gods series. Appearing in full in issue #135. Darkseid is basically behind Intergang the biggest crime syndicate in Metropolis. Putting him at odds with Superman in his very first DCU appearances.
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Still Cool Beans
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Yeah the idea of any JL members showing up in MOS and helping Supes is fanboy wishful thinking. The most we will get is hints at the larger DC universe with mentions/name drops/easter eggs. For instance, in the prequel tie-in comic the Kryptonian Council making mention of the Thanagarians at Dev-Em's sentencing.
And rightfully so. This movie is about Superman. He should and will be able to handle whatever threat is presented to him in HIS movie.
And rightfully so. This movie is about Superman. He should and will be able to handle whatever threat is presented to him in HIS movie.
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Haven't seen any other trailers other then the first official two. They aren't going to ruin this for me. I fux with Superman just not as much as Batman and I feel this movie can make me appreciate his character just as much as Batman.
First thing you hear about Supes from people who are into it is that he isn't interesting. this movie looks like it will kill that notion.
First thing you hear about Supes from people who are into it is that he isn't interesting. this movie looks like it will kill that notion.
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Broddie;5861735 said:
So basically what you're saying is that in the movie, Synder and Nolan upped the nigga's power levels. If that's the case, Supes would damn near be a god, (I guessing the equivalent to Thanos,) if that is indeed the case, why would there need to be Justice League? Supes can just handle that. I understand what you're saying from a cinematic standpoint, (and this is assuming that movie doesn't lead into wider DC Movieverse,) but from a logical, suspension of disbelief point of view, as nice as Supes is, I don't see how the nigga beats a gang of Krypotonians, "who are about that life." Niggas with the same powers he has, with the exception of experience. This is assuming that Synder hasn't retconned this so that they previously had superpowers.
Maximus Rex;5861425 said:
Technically Darkseid isn't a Superman rogue, he's a New Gods rogue. He eventually expanded to become a threat to the entire DCU. Kinda like Galactus and Thanos. Galactus was primarily a nemesis of the the FF, but he eventually became a threat to everybody in the Marvel Universe. I don't even know who Thanos was suppose to fight, (I think it was Adam Warlock) but when you have a nigga that decides to kill off half of the universe to impress a bitch, it's obvious that he's a threat to the entire Marvel Universe.
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Darkseid first on panel debut was in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 before there even was a New Gods series. Appearing in full in issue #135. Darkseid is basically behind Intergang the biggest crime syndicate in Metropolis. Putting him at odds with Superman in his very first DCU appearances.
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I had to GOAT you on that. I thought Darkseid first appeared in The New Gods and I forgot about Intergang, the cold part about is, I have the books in that story arch.
