Macklemore do you think he'll have sustained success?

[Peezy_Jenkins]

We shit for how it is... half ass MC's with little talent getting recognition for bullshit music. Drake Mackelmore and shit loads of others are what wrong with hiphop.

not as much as u elitists

 

[5th Letter]

People still use the radio to get the latest new music. Not everybody is on message boards like that.

 

[A1000MILES]

macklemore is a sub par corny rapper that has some good moments from time to time. His sound is more popish than hip hop. I call him hip pop. Them singles he release shouldn't be getting all this recognition at all.

...And I LISTEN to some shit before I judge it...Rather than spouting off a buncha ignorance about a rapper whose catalog I haven't een heard...

I kinda feel where you coming from but you lost me comparing macklemore to tech n9ne SMH. Then you said tech started off touring with I.C.P. Which is wrong as hell!!! I can tell you don't know much about him and just googled some shit real quick lol. Also tech always does hip hop and sometimes mixes it with rock. Show me some tech n9ne pop sounding records? Drop one song that sound like "can't hold us" from nina. You straight disrespected bruh, lol tech been out since the early 90's and blew in mid 2,000

Now if you would have compared him to mac miller(who is actually hip hop and really nice) that would have made more sense.

macklemore aint fucking with shit like this, SLAP YO GOD DAMN SELF NIGGA!!!

Not "started off" in the sense that he was part of the group, or wasn't shit prior to the group...Started off in the sense that a large portion of his loyal, paying fanbase came from performing at the Gathering of the Jugaloos year after year after year...That's not debatable...And I never said he didn't make hip hop, I've heard all the songs you posted, one of my best friends in college was from KC, and he walked me through damn near the nigga's whole discography...Jamaica said that Macklemore isn't hip hop because his sound is "alternative"...If Tech 9 makes alternative(and yes pop sounding) records just as frequently, how is one hip hop, yet the other isn't...And for clarification, Tech's records don't have to sound like "Can't Hold Us" to be classified as "pop"...Same way "Can't Hold Us" sounds nothing like Jay Z's "New York"...But guess what?...They're pop(ular) records with mainstream appeal.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

so u think macklemore blowing up eventually means no more artists like j. cole on the radio? thats ridiculous. if thats the cause it woulda been a wrap YEARS ago

 

[Muhannad]

I hope y'all don't complain when your favorite upcoming rapper can't get on because the radio is infiltrated with a bunch of Macklemore sounding motherfuckers. If y'all don't see the writing in the wall and what Macklemore blowing up means then y'all gonna be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah real heads know what's up like I said before. They been testing the waters for a while now. They placed Drake where he's at but wait till they find them a ('full') white Drake.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

No the "Thrift Shop" song is annoying as fuck because it reminds me of that hipster shit where "it's cool to look/dress poor". Shit is stupid. I do think it'll be interesting to see if he attacks white privilege in his records and interviews more like he's getting attention for "Same Love" in more than that one song. Right now it's like a footnote and everything is about the song he wrote for gay people. That's cool, let them get married, now you a white rapper with millions of ears at your disposal...drop White Privilege as a follow up and see if it gets the same positive reaction

I said this in another thread but here it goes.

He's trying to get in where he fit in. The economy is down so he releases a track like Thrift shop. That white hipster demographic he's targeting can relate to that. Ryan Lewis laces him with a catchy beat and the hook is reminiscent of something we heard before - Nate Dogg - and you have a hit.

Gay rights are a hot issue right now so this n*gga makes a joint like "Can't hold us". Nothing wrong with that, but you see how he's trying to appeal to fans outside of that 'urban' demographic. Two instances of where they're trying to bypass that urban demographic with their brand of what passes for hip hop. This sh*t happened to other so-called black genres. Real heads see what's happening.

On his independant hustle story. I see what they're trying to do. Every rapper gotta have a story of how they came up, how they beat the odds. Even soft rappers that had sh*t handed on a silver platter like Drizzy are making tracks like "Started from the bottom". They been trying to act like Macklemore grinded independantly to where he's at now. I had my doubts only to have them confirmed. Some journalist did some digging and exposed some truths (check this linkhttp://raprehab.com/macklemores-indie-rise-is-simply-a-white-lie/).

I think there's a market for a rapper like Macklemore but I'm not feeling this n*gga for the simple fact he's offbeat most of the time. Ryan Lewis is the real reason behind their success IMO. How you been rapping since '00 and you still can't catch a beat for sh*t?

Two of the trillest post in here.

@Muhannad X

That article you posted aint doing shit but confirming what real niggas been thinking. The moment I heard he was indi pushing numbers like that off 1 corny ass single with sub par lyrics. I knew something was fishy about this cat. I know me and other real niggas were all wondering why he was getting so much play. It aint from hip hop fans that's for damn sure.

If this was 96 i would say no but today yup that nigga is going to make millions off pop rap

Yep he got the gays backing him now, they pockets is deep.

 

[ghost!]

I said this in another thread but here it goes.

He's trying to get in where he fit in. The economy is down so he releases a track like Thrift shop. That white hipster demographic he's targeting can relate to that. Ryan Lewis laces him with a catchy beat and the hook is reminiscent of something we heard before - Nate Dogg - and you have a hit.

Gay rights are a hot issue right now so this n*gga makes a joint like "Can't hold us". Nothing wrong with that, but you see how he's trying to appeal to fans outside of that 'urban' demographic. Two instances of where they're trying to bypass that urban demographic with their brand of what passes for hip hop. This sh*t happened to other so-called black genres. Real heads see what's happening.

Hold up this brought me back..wait, how do you know he is targeting white hipsters..look around you...hip hop aint separated anymore..black dudes are dressing up like skaterboards now...

How you know

Macklemore aint just doing him, n being true to hisself, wht if he ain't paying attention to color but just trying to get his art out n to be heard? Thats what hip hop is, to express your self.

If dude came out acting like NAS, jay z or 2chainz you all would be all over that..but dude comes out n does him, and you call him corny?

And he did one song about his social belief, something hip hop artist been doing since KRS ONE..but now he was doing it to get fans, or push his way to number one, to just be topic'

y?

Is that what he is,doing or that's what you assume him to be doing cuz u don't like him..

Let's remember a certain wht boy group help put hip hop on the map by just being party wht boys n not acting like L.L. Cool , Krutis Blow, etc at that time...n they were the Beatie Boys...

 

[5th Letter]

so u think macklemore blowing up eventually means no more artists like j. cole on the radio? thats ridiculous. if thats the cause it woulda been a wrap YEARS ago

Of course established artists are gonna eat on urban radio. But if you a new artist and you don't have that sound. Then you're shit outta luck. Wait til this current trap sound phases out and it gets replaced with "can't hold us" and "thrift shop" sounding records. Macklemore is just the beginning.

 

[A1000MILES]

I hope y'all don't complain when your favorite upcoming rapper can't get on because the radio is infiltrated with a bunch of Macklemore sounding motherfuckers. If y'all don't see the writing in the wall and what Macklemore blowing up means then y'all gonna be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah real heads know what's up like I said before. They been testing the waters for a while now. They placed Drake where he's at but wait till they find them a ('full') white Drake.

Nigga...So Drake is more successful and has more fans than Eminem now?...Eminem ain't one of the highest selling artists ever now?...Y'all sound so...Smh...Y'all just refuse to believe that a large number of people actually like these "soft/trash/emo/gay pandering/pop sounding" rappers that y'all don't....Y'all refuse to believe that maybe it's the way they craftt their songs, the songs they release, and the marketing push they have behind those songs that puts them on top...Y'all seriously want to believe that anything with an underground sound is purposely being blackballed from success...Rather than facing the fact that if a song isn't entertaining, catchy, relatable, or all of the above it's not gonna take off on a national level...

 

[A1000MILES]

so u think macklemore blowing up eventually means no more artists like j. cole on the radio? thats ridiculous. if thats the cause it woulda been a wrap YEARS ago

Of course established artists are gonna eat on urban radio. But if you a new artist and you don't have that sound. Then you're shit outta luck. Wait til this current trap sound phases out and it gets replaced with "can't hold us" and "thrift shop" sounding records. Macklemore is just the beginning.

Neither one of those records are a "new" sound..."Can't Hold Us" sounds like beats Danja Handz or Timbaland usta make..."Thrift Shop" sounds like some old 80's fun record...Stop it.

 

[nujerz84]

I said this in another thread but here it goes.

He's trying to get in where he fit in. The economy is down so he releases a track like Thrift shop. That white hipster demographic he's targeting can relate to that. Ryan Lewis laces him with a catchy beat and the hook is reminiscent of something we heard before - Nate Dogg - and you have a hit.

Gay rights are a hot issue right now so this n*gga makes a joint like "Can't hold us". Nothing wrong with that, but you see how he's trying to appeal to fans outside of that 'urban' demographic. Two instances of where they're trying to bypass that urban demographic with their brand of what passes for hip hop. This sh*t happened to other so-called black genres. Real heads see what's happening.

Hold up this brought me back..wait, how do you know he is targeting white hipsters..look around you...hip hop aint separated anymore..black dudes are dressing up like skaterboards now...

How you know

Macklemore aint just doing him, n being true to hisself, wht if he ain't paying attention to color but just trying to get his art out n to be heard? Thats what hip hop is, to express your self.

If dude came out acting like NAS, jay z or 2chainz you all would be all over that..but dude comes out n does him, and you call him corny?

And he did one song about his social belief, something hip hop artist been doing since KRS ONE..but now he was doing it to get fans, or push his way to number one, to just be topic'

y?

Is that what he is,doing or that's what you assume him to be doing cuz u don't like him..

Let's remember a certain wht boy group help put hip hop on the map by just being party wht boys n not acting like L.L. Cool , Krutis Blow, etc at that time...n they were the Beatie Boys...

Beastie Boys were co signed by Run DMC and had Def Jam backing so the urban demographic gave them that respect... What Muhamed is saying... The Streets and Urban Market was the deciding factor in what was hot and the whites would jump on the trend especially in hiphop cause its black urban musical artform.

Eminem had to go thru the co-signs and passages ( battles, living in Newark with the Outsidaz, lyricist lounge, dr. dre co-sign etc) to get put on. Even at Eminem Peak of popularity he still did things to keep his name in the hiphop/urban market via mixtapes with the DJ Kay Slays, DJ Green Lantern etc.

Simply put while its been in effect for a while, the streets and urban demographic is not a place labels, radio, etc etc look at to decide whats hot or who got next in hiphop.

 

[N YO HOOD]

yes he will cause he don't need n***** to support him the whites and the gays will have his back

 

[Muhannad]

@7_rolls_royces That sh*t had me scratching my head. You don't get your single played on the radio in '13 with no major backing. I knew what they were trying to do.

I hope y'all don't complain when your favorite upcoming rapper can't get on because the radio is infiltrated with a bunch of Macklemore sounding motherfuckers. If y'all don't see the writing in the wall and what Macklemore blowing up means then y'all gonna be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah real heads know what's up like I said before. They been testing the waters for a while now. They placed Drake where he's at but wait till they find them a ('full') white Drake.

Nigga...So Drake is more successful and has more fans than Eminem now?...Eminem ain't one of the highest selling artists ever now?...Y'all sound so...Smh...Y'all just refuse to believe that a large number of people actually like these "soft/trash/emo/gay pandering/pop sounding" rappers that y'all don't....Y'all refuse to believe that maybe it's the way they craftt their songs, the songs they release, and the marketing push they have behind those songs that puts them on top...Y'all seriously want to believe that anything with an underground sound is purposely being blackballed from success...Rather than facing the fact that if a song isn't entertaining, catchy, relatable, or all of the above it's not gonna take off on a national level...

I respect your opinion and I wanna respond to you out of courtesy but this post was all ov er the place. Especially the bolded had nothing to do with anything I posted in this thread.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

macklemore is a sub par corny rapper that has some good moments from time to time. His sound is more popish than hip hop. I call him hip pop. Them singles he release shouldn't be getting all this recognition at all.

...And I LISTEN to some shit before I judge it...Rather than spouting off a buncha ignorance about a rapper whose catalog I haven't een heard...

I kinda feel where you coming from but you lost me comparing macklemore to tech n9ne SMH. Then you said tech started off touring with I.C.P. Which is wrong as hell!!! I can tell you don't know much about him and just googled some shit real quick lol. Also tech always does hip hop and sometimes mixes it with rock. Show me some tech n9ne pop sounding records? Drop one song that sound like "can't hold us" from nina. You straight disrespected bruh, lol tech been out since the early 90's and blew in mid 2,000

Now if you would have compared him to mac miller(who is actually hip hop and really nice) that would have made more sense.

macklemore aint fucking with shit like this, SLAP YO GOD DAMN SELF NIGGA!!!

Not "started off" in the sense that he was part of the group, or wasn't shit prior to the group...Started off in the sense that a large portion of his loyal, paying fanbase came from performing at the Gathering of the Jugaloos year after year after year...That's not debatable...And I never said he didn't make hip hop, I've heard all the songs you posted, one of my best friends in college was from KC, and he walked me through damn near the nigga's whole discography...Jamaica said that Macklemore isn't hip hop because his sound is "alternative"...If Tech 9 makes alternative(and yes pop sounding) records just as frequently, how is one hip hop, yet the other isn't...And for clarification, Tech's records don't have to sound like "Can't Hold Us" to be classified as "pop"...Same way "Can't Hold Us" sounds nothing like Jay Z's "New York"...But guess what?...They're pop(ular) records with mainstream appeal.

You full of shit bruh, just stop lol. I told you to post one pop song tech has made or anything that sounds pop. Show me this corny pop sounding music tech drops frequently.

LOL don't try to backtrack bruh, you can't fool me with that shit. Tech already started getting a buzz before he started fucking with I.C.P. That shit did help just like how being on lil wayne album did ya feel me? Stop acting like you fuck with tech like that when you really don't. Peole who really know about nina would have never posted the bull shit you posted lol.

Like I said, somebody like wiz or mac miller would be a better example. That fool aint nothing like no tech n9ne bruh.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

so u think macklemore blowing up eventually means no more artists like j. cole on the radio? thats ridiculous. if thats the cause it woulda been a wrap YEARS ago

Of course established artists are gonna eat on urban radio. But if you a new artist and you don't have that sound. Then you're shit outta luck. Wait til this current trap sound phases out and it gets replaced with "can't hold us" and "thrift shop" sounding records. Macklemore is just the beginning.

u gotta be trolling bruh u better than this, theres room for plenty of different sounds on the radio if they choose to play it, niggas cant get mad cuz they favorite rapper can rap they ass of but dont have enough talent as an artist to make a song to get on the radio and be themselves in it at the same damn time, macklemore aint the beginning of shit, nelly came with a popish sounding style of rap and nothing changed, aint stop lil jon from gettin on the radio with his crunk shit, luda from gettin on the radio wit his rap shit, tip from gettin on it with his trap shit, d4l with they snap shit, and so on..

 

[A1000MILES]

@7_rolls_royces That sh*t had me scratching my head. You don't get your single played on the radio in '13 with no major backing. I knew what they were trying to do.

I hope y'all don't complain when your favorite upcoming rapper can't get on because the radio is infiltrated with a bunch of Macklemore sounding motherfuckers. If y'all don't see the writing in the wall and what Macklemore blowing up means then y'all gonna be in for a rude awakening.

Yeah real heads know what's up like I said before. They been testing the waters for a while now. They placed Drake where he's at but wait till they find them a ('full') white Drake.

Nigga...So Drake is more successful and has more fans than Eminem now?...Eminem ain't one of the highest selling artists ever now?...Y'all sound so...Smh...Y'all just refuse to believe that a large number of people actually like these "soft/trash/emo/gay pandering/pop sounding" rappers that y'all don't....Y'all refuse to believe that maybe it's the way they craftt their songs, the songs they release, and the marketing push they have behind those songs that puts them on top...Y'all seriously want to believe that anything with an underground sound is purposely being blackballed from success...Rather than facing the fact that if a song isn't entertaining, catchy, relatable, or all of the above it's not gonna take off on a national level...

I respect your opinion and I wanna respond to you out of courtesy but this post was all ov er the place. Especially the bolded had nothing to do with anything I posted in this thread.

"They been testing the waters for a while now. They placed Drake where he's at but wait till they find them a ('full') white Drake"

...Who is "they" bro?...White america?...Jews?...The illuminati?...Why does there have to be some typa conspiracy angle to why rappers who make light hearted and/or catchy music find it easy to gain mainstream success?...Why does it have to be about race or secret agendas?...WHY CAN'T IT JUST BE THAT MOTHERFUCKERS LIKE THE DAMN SONGS EVEN IF YOU DON'T?

 

[blackrain]

I hope y'all don't complain when your favorite upcoming rapper can't get on because the radio is infiltrated with a bunch of Macklemore sounding motherfuckers. If y'all don't see the writing in the wall and what Macklemore blowing up means then y'all gonna be in for a rude awakening.

There's people that say this shit every time something comes out they don't like. Half you niggas were on here swearing Kreyshawn would lead to 9 thousand white girls rapping going platinum and we saw where that shit went.

 

[A1000MILES]

macklemore is a sub par corny rapper that has some good moments from time to time. His sound is more popish than hip hop. I call him hip pop. Them singles he release shouldn't be getting all this recognition at all.

...And I LISTEN to some shit before I judge it...Rather than spouting off a buncha ignorance about a rapper whose catalog I haven't een heard...

I kinda feel where you coming from but you lost me comparing macklemore to tech n9ne SMH. Then you said tech started off touring with I.C.P. Which is wrong as hell!!! I can tell you don't know much about him and just googled some shit real quick lol. Also tech always does hip hop and sometimes mixes it with rock. Show me some tech n9ne pop sounding records? Drop one song that sound like "can't hold us" from nina. You straight disrespected bruh, lol tech been out since the early 90's and blew in mid 2,000

Now if you would have compared him to mac miller(who is actually hip hop and really nice) that would have made more sense.

macklemore aint fucking with shit like this, SLAP YO GOD DAMN SELF NIGGA!!!

Not "started off" in the sense that he was part of the group, or wasn't shit prior to the group...Started off in the sense that a large portion of his loyal, paying fanbase came from performing at the Gathering of the Jugaloos year after year after year...That's not debatable...And I never said he didn't make hip hop, I've heard all the songs you posted, one of my best friends in college was from KC, and he walked me through damn near the nigga's whole discography...Jamaica said that Macklemore isn't hip hop because his sound is "alternative"...If Tech 9 makes alternative(and yes pop sounding) records just as frequently, how is one hip hop, yet the other isn't...And for clarification, Tech's records don't have to sound like "Can't Hold Us" to be classified as "pop"...Same way "Can't Hold Us" sounds nothing like Jay Z's "New York"...But guess what?...They're pop(ular) records with mainstream appeal.

You full of shit bruh, just stop lol. I told you to post one pop song tech has made or anything that sounds pop. Show me this corny pop sounding music tech drops frequently.

LOL don't try to backtrack bruh, you can't fool me with that shit. Tech already started getting a buzz before he started fucking with I.C.P. That shit did help just like how being on lil wayne album did ya feel me? Stop acting like you fuck with tech like that when you really don't. Peole who really know about nina would have never posted the bull shit you posted lol.

Like I said, somebody like wiz or mac miller would be a better example. That fool aint nothing like no tech n9ne bruh.

I'm not saying Macklemore is like Tech 9...For the last time...I'm not saying ICP made Tech 9 for the last time...I'm saying they both make "alternative" sounding, cathcy, melodic, genre bending music...AND THEY ARE BOTH HIP HOP...For the last time.

 

[Muhannad]

I said this in another thread but here it goes.

He's trying to get in where he fit in. The economy is down so he releases a track like Thrift shop. That white hipster demographic he's targeting can relate to that. Ryan Lewis laces him with a catchy beat and the hook is reminiscent of something we heard before - Nate Dogg - and you have a hit.

Gay rights are a hot issue right now so this n*gga makes a joint like "Can't hold us". Nothing wrong with that, but you see how he's trying to appeal to fans outside of that 'urban' demographic. Two instances of where they're trying to bypass that urban demographic with their brand of what passes for hip hop. This sh*t happened to other so-called black genres. Real heads see what's happening.

Hold up this brought me back..wait, how do you know he is targeting white hipsters..look around you...hip hop aint separated anymore..black dudes are dressing up like skaterboards now...

How you know

Macklemore aint just doing him, n being true to hisself, wht if he ain't paying attention to color but just trying to get his art out n to be heard? Thats what hip hop is, to express your self.

If dude came out acting like NAS, jay z or 2chainz you all would be all over that..but dude comes out n does him, and you call him corny?

And he did one song about his social belief, something hip hop artist been doing since KRS ONE..but now he was doing it to get fans, or push his way to number one, to just be topic'

y?

Is that what he is,doing or that's what you assume him to be doing cuz u don't like him..

Let's remember a certain wht boy group help put hip hop on the map by just being party wht boys n not acting like L.L. Cool , Krutis Blow, etc at that time...n they were the Beatie Boys...

First off I listened to his old sh*t. This n*gga came out trying to sound like these Aesop Rock, Rhymesayers, Anticon rappers. He didn't release that much music a decade ago but what he released sounded like what these so called backpackers released back then. Offbeat whiteboys rapping about unrelatable BS on throwaway beats and calling it 'real' hip hop since they weren't rapping about materialistic sh*t.

Macklemore kid found what style worked for him and I can't be mad at that. More power to him.

Secondly. This n*gga jumped on two hot topics to try to appeal to these liberal, white hipsters and those joints became big hits. He's making his brand of hip hop accessible to outsiders. He tapping into that hipster market, creating his own fanbase so he can keep bypassing that 'urban' demographic. Real heads see what's up. Can't compare this n*gga to KRS or any of these rappers you mentioned TBH. He's not on their level in terms of skill and he hasn't paid dues like them.

Beastie Boys put hip hop on the map? For who lol?

 

[A1000MILES]

Another thing...You gotta be a hipster to shop at a thrift store now?...A white hipster at that?...Really?...So, that song just had no appeal to millions of minorities and low income whites who were raised making the most of old clothes?...All the black non hipsters I know who like that song just don't mean shit huh?