Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time

[aneed123]

man if you my friend i gotchu till the end . mase did cam dirty

and cam did juelz dirty correct? even if he did deserve it

 

[KingFreeman]

I fucked w some of that southern shit though. TI, Jeezy, Luda and krit probably my favorite artist after k.dot n j.cole right now. But I get what u saying, alot of that other shit be super dumbed down musik

J Cole is from the South. That's the problem Y'all think South = GA. Y'all mean you don't like rapping Georgians under 30...but you say South. Pusha T, Malice, Pharell/Neptunes, Timbaland, Missy, Chris Brown, Trey Songz, and Skillz are some of the rappers/R&B artist from VA alone.

Those are all dope artist. Why aren’t they in the forefront? Y’all rather push 21 savage and migos than the dope artist y’all have. See this is the issue I have with the south. It’s like you know you love stupid ignorant shit but then like to hide behind artist who you think are “smart and conscious.”

Y’all niggas tried to paint Kevin Gates as smart and that nigga wild retarded. Posting up inspirational quotes and have the nerve to post his picture. That’s the nigga y’all look up to?

As much as I think 3K is overrated, I wish artist from the south like him was leading the charge. Shit even Wayne. There’s no denying that the south runs the radio airwaves for hip hop. And y’all choose to play the dumb shit.

who are u to tell the south what to like or push?..yall booed outkast now wanna turn around and big up dre now... think ,about all the southern artist who got no shine in the 90s and 2000s that yall gave no fucks about who made better music than what we hear today? maybe the rap gods are punishing u for that lol. its crazy cuz the south been liking the bass heavy hook heavy non lyrical shit but the narrative is oh look at the good ole days even tho we talked shit about yall then we wish yall made music like that cuz now its trash naw .... lol

i respect it. look all im saying is it would be good if rap lyrics meant something all across the board or at least the majority of it. shit is really looking kids boppish. its good to have a good time but if that shit dont change, 10 years from now its gonna be a complete joke. im speaking for me, hearing a song with just adlibs and bass is just retarded. and its an insult to my intelligence and i would like to think it is for our people as a whole. yea the gangsta rap shit is ignorant as well and that should be the extent of it. because its real shit and they putting their life and soul into the music. can we agree on that?

Nigga how many of the most recent biggest hits from non southern artists have been "lyrical"? Wasn't one of the biggest songs last year from a NY nigga who literally is a close of an Atlanta nigga? Wasn't it Harlem niggas who started riding the south making songs like "Get Crunk Music" and remakes of "Bout It Bout It"...wasn't it NY niggas who started running to southern producers?

I said what I said my nigga

What you stupid was stupid

Lmao. The irony.

 

[Mr 202]

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49 plus pages I'm sure everyone knows by now it was Jay girl which is why he started gettin' at him.

Fake news

mase hit kim and one of jay girls back then... sound the king of rap girl line has 2 bodies on it big and jay supposedly

I have heard MASE say severally his beef with jay came from his beef with dame and Jay inherited it. He hit a girl called aerion that was going with some body in dames crew,dame wasn't happy about it and started beefing with MASE.thats how Jay got involved

 

[aneed123]

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49 plus pages I'm sure everyone knows by now it was Jay girl which is why he started gettin' at him.

Fake news

mase hit kim and one of jay girls back then... sound the king of rap girl line has 2 bodies on it big and jay supposedly

I have heard MASE say severally his beef with jay came from his beef with dame and Jay inherited it. He hit a girl called aerion that was going with some body in dames crew,dame wasn't happy about it and started beefing with MASE.thats how Jay got involved

yeah thats her

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

 

[5 Grand]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

Thats life.

Everybody doesn't think alike.

 

[Focal Point]

man if you my friend i gotchu till the end . mase did cam dirty

So did Jay do Jaz dirty for only 100k

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

Thats life.

Everybody doesn't think alike.

nah thats not life....thats fukkery..

if im fukking with a chick i know got a man is one thing.

but if i fukk with a chick who man i know.....thats bullshit.

either way...i dont want fresh second hand ass

 

[5 Grand]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

Thats life.

Everybody doesn't think alike.

nah thats not life....thats fukkery..

if im fukking with a chick i know got a man is one thing.

but if i fukk with a chick who man i know.....thats bullshit.

either way...i dont want fresh second hand ass

Well unless you put a ring on her finger she's gonna fuck whoever she wants.

 

[Mr 202]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

Thats life.

Everybody doesn't think alike.

nah thats not life....thats fukkery..

if im fukking with a chick i know got a man is one thing.

but if i fukk with a chick who man i know.....thats bullshit.

either way...i dont want fresh second hand ass

Well unless you put a ring on her finger she's gonna fuck whoever she wants.

That's not how it's supposed to be.dont condition your mind to believe that because you not gonn be able to get your self a good girl thinking like that.

There's something called loyalty and a lot girls have it. It's still a lot of good women out there with self value

Women that understand that their body is not for everybody,women that have respect for themselves and for their relationships

 

[5 Grand]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

Thats life.

Everybody doesn't think alike.

nah thats not life....thats fukkery..

if im fukking with a chick i know got a man is one thing.

but if i fukk with a chick who man i know.....thats bullshit.

either way...i dont want fresh second hand ass

Well unless you put a ring on her finger she's gonna fuck whoever she wants.

That's not how it's supposed to be.dont condition your mind to believe that because you not gonn be able to get your self a good girl thinking like that.

There's something called loyalty and a lot girls have it. It's still a lot of good women out there with self value

Women that understand that their body is not for everybody,women that have respect for themselves and for their relationships

I have a female cousin that explained it to me;

There's Mr Right, and Mr Right Now

Mr Right has a college degree, his own car, his own apartment, well dressed, social skills, tall, dark and handsome.

Mr Right Now has a hard dick and wants to fuck.

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

I dont remember the minute mark.. But Ma$e said that this is about a video.. And he kinda downplayed it.. It's like man after 20 years this video is where our issues are?.. I have an issue with that..

Ma$e mentions in the video that he wore Cam's clothes.. So a nigga that gave you clothes to wear.. As soon as you get on you charge him for a video?.. And expect him to let it go?.. I wish Angie would have plodded more on that..

If you my man.. And u held me down.. And I get on.. Ima make sure you straight.. That's what real niggaz do.. Yes you've grown.. But don't act like Cam is crazy for feeling the way he felt. He held you down and you had the power to change his life and you did it but not really. Charging that man for a video is a slap in the face in my opinion. If he did that video all of this wouldn't even be going on. Made said that he's grown so maybe he isn't the same person.. But growth doesnt negate what you've done in your past. You still have to deal with the Karma that comes along with what you've done. Outside of that I feel him.. This is a dope interview.. Many layers and no one is perfect.. But Ma$e needs to understand where Cam is coming from as it pertains to that video..

It's still a business at the end of the day and Cam would have been using Mase's name and image to further his own profile. There's money to be made from that and it's only right Mase got something out of that...and given how high profile Mase was then according to what both of them have said he gave Cam a crazy discount from what he could have actually charged him. Didn't Mase also say in that video he's the one who helped Cam get his deal from jump? What else is he supposed to do...do every Cam feature and video for free forever?

We fundamentally disagree.. Ma$e shouldn't have charge Cam shit because of their relationship prior.. Cam wasn't some other rapper they were supposed to be friends/fam.. According to Ma$e Cam would give him clothes and stuff. That doesn't count for anything?. SMH..

 

[2stepz_ahead]

i never understood why niggas smash other niggas chicks with all these chicks around....

i mean pussy is pussy...but i would never go at someones chick on purpose...especially with all the chicks thats around niggas with fame...

no need to double dip.....thats some nasty shit

Thats life.

Everybody doesn't think alike.

nah thats not life....thats fukkery..

if im fukking with a chick i know got a man is one thing.

but if i fukk with a chick who man i know.....thats bullshit.

either way...i dont want fresh second hand ass

Well unless you put a ring on her finger she's gonna fuck whoever she wants.

That's not how it's supposed to be.dont condition your mind to believe that because you not gonn be able to get your self a good girl thinking like that.

There's something called loyalty and a lot girls have it. It's still a lot of good women out there with self value

Women that understand that their body is not for everybody,women that have respect for themselves and for their relationships

I have a female cousin that explained it to me;

There's Mr Right, and Mr Right Now

Mr Right has a college degree, his own car, his own apartment, well dressed, social skills, tall, dark and handsome.

Mr Right Now has a hard dick and wants to fuck.

and too many chicks get the mr right now.....an end up with nothing but a nerd nigga who they would never be with but they have to now because he got money an will take care of her kids mr right now left her with.

those type chicks want it both ways.......an when they lose...they claim the game is fixed.

 

[blackrain]

I fucked w some of that southern shit though. TI, Jeezy, Luda and krit probably my favorite artist after k.dot n j.cole right now. But I get what u saying, alot of that other shit be super dumbed down musik

J Cole is from the South. That's the problem Y'all think South = GA. Y'all mean you don't like rapping Georgians under 30...but you say South. Pusha T, Malice, Pharell/Neptunes, Timbaland, Missy, Chris Brown, Trey Songz, and Skillz are some of the rappers/R&B artist from VA alone.

Those are all dope artist. Why aren’t they in the forefront? Y’all rather push 21 savage and migos than the dope artist y’all have. See this is the issue I have with the south. It’s like you know you love stupid ignorant shit but then like to hide behind artist who you think are “smart and conscious.”

Y’all niggas tried to paint Kevin Gates as smart and that nigga wild retarded. Posting up inspirational quotes and have the nerve to post his picture. That’s the nigga y’all look up to?

As much as I think 3K is overrated, I wish artist from the south like him was leading the charge. Shit even Wayne. There’s no denying that the south runs the radio airwaves for hip hop. And y’all choose to play the dumb shit.

who are u to tell the south what to like or push?..yall booed outkast now wanna turn around and big up dre now... think ,about all the southern artist who got no shine in the 90s and 2000s that yall gave no fucks about who made better music than what we hear today? maybe the rap gods are punishing u for that lol. its crazy cuz the south been liking the bass heavy hook heavy non lyrical shit but the narrative is oh look at the good ole days even tho we talked shit about yall then we wish yall made music like that cuz now its trash naw .... lol

i respect it. look all im saying is it would be good if rap lyrics meant something all across the board or at least the majority of it. shit is really looking kids boppish. its good to have a good time but if that shit dont change, 10 years from now its gonna be a complete joke. im speaking for me, hearing a song with just adlibs and bass is just retarded. and its an insult to my intelligence and i would like to think it is for our people as a whole. yea the gangsta rap shit is ignorant as well and that should be the extent of it. because its real shit and they putting their life and soul into the music. can we agree on that?

Nigga how many of the most recent biggest hits from non southern artists have been "lyrical"? Wasn't one of the biggest songs last year from a NY nigga who literally is a close of an Atlanta nigga? Wasn't it Harlem niggas who started riding the south making songs like "Get Crunk Music" and remakes of "Bout It Bout It"...wasn't it NY niggas who started running to southern producers?

I said what I said my nigga

What you stupid was stupid

Lmao. The irony.

I posted that fresh from laughing at the Hall thread too lol.

 

[blackrain]

I dont remember the minute mark.. But Ma$e said that this is about a video.. And he kinda downplayed it.. It's like man after 20 years this video is where our issues are?.. I have an issue with that..

Ma$e mentions in the video that he wore Cam's clothes.. So a nigga that gave you clothes to wear.. As soon as you get on you charge him for a video?.. And expect him to let it go?.. I wish Angie would have plodded more on that..

If you my man.. And u held me down.. And I get on.. Ima make sure you straight.. That's what real niggaz do.. Yes you've grown.. But don't act like Cam is crazy for feeling the way he felt. He held you down and you had the power to change his life and you did it but not really. Charging that man for a video is a slap in the face in my opinion. If he did that video all of this wouldn't even be going on. Made said that he's grown so maybe he isn't the same person.. But growth doesnt negate what you've done in your past. You still have to deal with the Karma that comes along with what you've done. Outside of that I feel him.. This is a dope interview.. Many layers and no one is perfect.. But Ma$e needs to understand where Cam is coming from as it pertains to that video..

It's still a business at the end of the day and Cam would have been using Mase's name and image to further his own profile. There's money to be made from that and it's only right Mase got something out of that...and given how high profile Mase was then according to what both of them have said he gave Cam a crazy discount from what he could have actually charged him. Didn't Mase also say in that video he's the one who helped Cam get his deal from jump? What else is he supposed to do...do every Cam feature and video for free forever?

We fundamentally disagree.. Ma$e shouldn't have charge Cam shit because of their relationship prior.. Cam wasn't some other rapper they were supposed to be friends/fam.. According to Ma$e Cam would give him clothes and stuff. That doesn't count for anything?. SMH..

He got that nigga his deal. Was he supposed to never charge Cam for anything ever? What about now 20 years later. Had they not fallen out should Mase owe Cam 20 years of free features?

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

I dont remember the minute mark.. But Ma$e said that this is about a video.. And he kinda downplayed it.. It's like man after 20 years this video is where our issues are?.. I have an issue with that..

Ma$e mentions in the video that he wore Cam's clothes.. So a nigga that gave you clothes to wear.. As soon as you get on you charge him for a video?.. And expect him to let it go?.. I wish Angie would have plodded more on that..

If you my man.. And u held me down.. And I get on.. Ima make sure you straight.. That's what real niggaz do.. Yes you've grown.. But don't act like Cam is crazy for feeling the way he felt. He held you down and you had the power to change his life and you did it but not really. Charging that man for a video is a slap in the face in my opinion. If he did that video all of this wouldn't even be going on. Made said that he's grown so maybe he isn't the same person.. But growth doesnt negate what you've done in your past. You still have to deal with the Karma that comes along with what you've done. Outside of that I feel him.. This is a dope interview.. Many layers and no one is perfect.. But Ma$e needs to understand where Cam is coming from as it pertains to that video..

It's still a business at the end of the day and Cam would have been using Mase's name and image to further his own profile. There's money to be made from that and it's only right Mase got something out of that...and given how high profile Mase was then according to what both of them have said he gave Cam a crazy discount from what he could have actually charged him. Didn't Mase also say in that video he's the one who helped Cam get his deal from jump? What else is he supposed to do...do every Cam feature and video for free forever?

We fundamentally disagree.. Ma$e shouldn't have charge Cam shit because of their relationship prior.. Cam wasn't some other rapper they were supposed to be friends/fam.. According to Ma$e Cam would give him clothes and stuff. That doesn't count for anything?. SMH..

He got that nigga his deal. Was he supposed to never charge Cam for anything ever? What about now 20 years later. Had they not fallen out should Mase owe Cam 20 years of free features?

Again we fundamentally disagree. If we came up together I'm not going to charge you. It's as simple as that. Ma$e should have done better in my opinion.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

It's time FOF this shit

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Damn Ma$e generated 50 pages on the IC in 2017... What a time to be alive.

 

[freethewave]

Damn Ma$e generated 50 pages on the IC in 2017... What a time to be alive.

Killa Cams 1st L.

 

[blackrain]

I dont remember the minute mark.. But Ma$e said that this is about a video.. And he kinda downplayed it.. It's like man after 20 years this video is where our issues are?.. I have an issue with that..

Ma$e mentions in the video that he wore Cam's clothes.. So a nigga that gave you clothes to wear.. As soon as you get on you charge him for a video?.. And expect him to let it go?.. I wish Angie would have plodded more on that..

If you my man.. And u held me down.. And I get on.. Ima make sure you straight.. That's what real niggaz do.. Yes you've grown.. But don't act like Cam is crazy for feeling the way he felt. He held you down and you had the power to change his life and you did it but not really. Charging that man for a video is a slap in the face in my opinion. If he did that video all of this wouldn't even be going on. Made said that he's grown so maybe he isn't the same person.. But growth doesnt negate what you've done in your past. You still have to deal with the Karma that comes along with what you've done. Outside of that I feel him.. This is a dope interview.. Many layers and no one is perfect.. But Ma$e needs to understand where Cam is coming from as it pertains to that video..

It's still a business at the end of the day and Cam would have been using Mase's name and image to further his own profile. There's money to be made from that and it's only right Mase got something out of that...and given how high profile Mase was then according to what both of them have said he gave Cam a crazy discount from what he could have actually charged him. Didn't Mase also say in that video he's the one who helped Cam get his deal from jump? What else is he supposed to do...do every Cam feature and video for free forever?

We fundamentally disagree.. Ma$e shouldn't have charge Cam shit because of their relationship prior.. Cam wasn't some other rapper they were supposed to be friends/fam.. According to Ma$e Cam would give him clothes and stuff. That doesn't count for anything?. SMH..

He got that nigga his deal. Was he supposed to never charge Cam for anything ever? What about now 20 years later. Had they not fallen out should Mase owe Cam 20 years of free features?

Again we fundamentally disagree. If we came up together I'm not going to charge you. It's as simple as that. Ma$e should have done better in my opinion.

At some point you stop owing a nigga. Cam ain't entitled to free verses and collabs from mase forever.