Ma$e - The Oracle (Cam’ron Diss), Cam'ron responds with Dinner Time

[THIRDSUPREME]

Mase barbecued Cam.... you purple city bird brain!

 

[Soloman_The_Wise]

Mase went Harder and I do not like homie on any level I listen to Cam have most of his discography and absolutely no Mase in my Collection up until this track because it just went hard. It is getting weakened by exposure of the bullshit in it but still it shits on Cams Reply. Mase was bullied for too many years and came out swinging and You can tell Cam was not prepared for what he thought was a soft target to fight back so savagely...

 

[bow to royalty]

@gemini86 what was Mase talking about on the Huddy lines?

That seems to be internal shit that the public don’t know about

Nah. Mase said Cam was blaming him for stuff he didn't do have anything to do with. And that'd be like him blaming Cam four Hud's death, which Cam didn't have anything to do with.

Don’t blame for the past and I won’t blame you for the crash

Sent my nigga Huddy on a dummy mission and he crashed

So again...you learn the meaning of the line and it's not tough anymore. It just keeps happening.

I guess we're both from the South now...

Nah nigga... notice the way I type. I said it seems like. I didn’t take information and acted like I knew what was going on. If I don’t know, I ask. If I don’t speak on it, then I don’t care because it’s just not for me my nigga

What you thought it seemed like was wrong. That's my point. We expected Mase to come with internal shit that the public didn't know about. He's known Cam for 20+ years. And with that line you thought he did. Then we find out the meaning of the line, and again, it's disappointing.

I'm not saying Cam won. I'm just saying the Oracle is way weaker than it originally seemed.

Recap of some of the most memorable parts of the track:

1. Cam fucked his own sister

- Truth. Cam doesn't have a sister. Mase apparently didn't mean sister when he said sister

2. Cam has Mase's name tattooed on his body

- Truth. Mase apparently didn't mean his actual name. He just means Harlem World

3. Cam was in some way responsible for Hud dying.

-Truth. Apparently Mase was saying Cam WASN'T at all responsible for his death.

 

[bow to royalty]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

 

[gemini86]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

 

[aneed123]

man yall biased as hell

 

[Go figure]

Mase shit was def'ly more etherous but...

...this isnt gonna affect cam at all.

Dont think anybody loses any sleep on this one.

If it turns into something long, drawn out maybe that will change.

 

[Mr 202]

Mase shit was def'ly more etherous but...

...this isnt gonna affect cam at all.

Dont think anybody loses any sleep on this one.

If it turns into something long, drawn out maybe that will change.

It won't affect cam but cam had to leave his tour and everything he was doing to run to the breakfast club to do damage control

Dame dash had to do another damage control interview with his barber on behalf of camron

And you still think he's not affected? Once your consumers and customers start to look at you differently you will be affected.

That is why they are running to every mic they see to tell people MASE lied meanwhile cam has been A habitual liar

 

[freethewave]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

And Jay wasn't 36 taking karate and Prodigy wasn't a ballerina. Has there ever been a diss with straight facts?

 

[bow to royalty]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross shit. I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.

who do you think won 50 Ross?

 

[bow to royalty]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

And Jay wasn't 36 taking karate and Prodigy wasn't a ballerina. Has there ever been a diss with straight facts?

Prodigy did ballet, so I'm not sure what you mean by that one. You saying Jay didn't do karate, or that the age was wrong?

 

[illedout]

So all of a sudden mase was speaking lies in the diss, then when we provide facts that it was true, then you say it’s old so it don’t matter.

That’s equivalent to Smokey saying “stop bringing up old shit” in Friday. Y’all wack for that.

Cam fuck is sister? Cam has a tattoo of mase?

What facts are you talking about

Everyone knows the name shit is Harlem world. Mase is Harlem world.

When he said “my name is on the ribbon of the bird.” Talking about Harlem world.

Cam has Harlem world tatted on him as well.

And with the whole sister shit, mase was talking about Charlie Baltimore. They was calling each other brother and sister. He was saying cam has been a thirsty nigga since 10 and he fucked a chick he called his sister. I’m from Harlem so I can read between the lines. But yea

****EDIT

and the facts were the where was all that Rico shit when u left Jim and Rucker Park.

Cam obviously lied when he said it was a one on one fight

Wasn’t no one on one fight,

Jimmy got jumped and Killa hauled ass !!

 

[Mr 202]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross shit. I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.

who do you think won 50 Ross?

I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil

Because of that beef and that's a huge L

So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill

 

[x the unknown]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross shit. I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.

who do you think won 50 Ross?

I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil

Because of that beef and that's a huge L

So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill

he made that five mil back

 

[5 Grand]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross shit. I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.

who do you think won 50 Ross?

I'd say 50 lost the battle.

I don't know the details of 50's net worth, but he had to file for bankruptcy after losing the court case to Ross's baby mama. I'd consider that an L.

Truth be told, I don't even remember either diss record, but it ended with 50 filing for bankruptcy.

 

[gemini86]

who remembers this

 

[gemini86]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross shit. I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.

who do you think won 50 Ross?

I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil

Because of that beef and that's a huge L

So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill

thats the shit im talking about lol. that court case shit happened this year or last. niggas was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south niggas just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.

i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"

now who stood the test of time.

but anyway. Mase won

 

[Go figure]

Mase shit was def'ly more etherous but...

...this isnt gonna affect cam at all.

Dont think anybody loses any sleep on this one.

If it turns into something long, drawn out maybe that will change.

It won't affect cam but cam had to leave his tour and everything he was doing to run to the breakfast club to do damage control

Dame dash had to do another damage control interview with his barber on behalf of camron

And you still think he's not affected? Once your consumers and customers start to look at you differently you will be affected.

That is why they are running to every mic they see to tell people MASE lied meanwhile cam has been A habitual liar

Lol u make it seem like he was jumpin thru hoops yea all he did was sit down n do an interview. Thats all it took was a response to the diss and an interview?

When he did the interview he was in a full week gap between shows so its not like he was scrambling to squeeze time to do it.

N however u look at it its still not gonna affect him.

If there are no more disses or responses from mase nothin changes at this point. Ppl will forget and the dipset reunion will eclipse mase.

And thats whether ppl know cam is a habitual liar or not

 

[5 Grand]

who remembers this

That dude sounds exactly like Cam

 

[freethewave]

If y'all don't think these lines being exposed as lies, or just real weak after they're explained, weakens the track then I dunno what to tell you. It's either hating or Stanning. But shit...to each his own

yall the same niggas that say Ross won against 50 when all he told was lies in his diss songs. 50 told the truth. FOH. you want it one way. but its the other way. i get it. cam is likeable. hes funny. he took the L.

That beef was wack haha. 50 did that stupid Pinky-inspired character...I forget his name. And I can't even remember any of Ross shit. I did think that was the first beef 50 lost by 50 standards (he use to always refer to his success in rap vs his opponents and say he won. But at that time Ross was more successful) though. But you're not getting it...again. The biggest thing 50 said was Ross was a CO. and he showed a picture after. Because he knows a line being true makes a difference.

who do you think won 50 Ross?

I can't say who won but I know 50 lost 5mil

Because of that beef and that's a huge L

So it's safe to say 50 lost plus Ross career kind of took off the same time with the Big meech song while FIFs career went downhill

thats the shit im talking about lol. that court case shit happened this year or last. niggas was saying 50 lost the battle way before then. was that in 2011 or 2012? 50 had the better diss songs and put hands on Ross's artist. south niggas just like whos popular. just proves my point. and even now. Ross career is basically over.

i remember we had threads on here where people were asking. "whos career would u rather have? 50 or Ross"

now who stood the test of time.

but anyway. Mase won

Ross is still a popular artist