Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo and Youth Official Album Discussion 1/20/15

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I think thats because those albums have had time and they probably hold a certain value in your collection.

T&Y is a damn good album. When they first dropped I didnt play those albums as much as this.

Maybe individual songs but not the entire thing. Lyrically is debatable but production wise this album is better than those imo.

Itll take some time but they are all neck and neck to me.
 
About it being better than The Cool? Hmmmmm.. too early to judge on that

The replay value of this new album is so high; I literally listen to it in bits every day but I think what really pushed this album to great heights was mainly the production (beats and engineering); better than on any of his previous albums. I know Lupe has been criticised sometimes for beat selection. That's not to take away from his lyricism at all

The Cool is an album I revere very much. The emotion in some of them lyrics man ..
 
chiyosuke;7745796 said:
Just listened to TY and The Cool back to back. As much as I love The Cool...

Tetsuo and Youth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As much as I like this album and your critiques so far, I have to disagree with this statement. The Cool was transcendent and touched on many subcategories of hip hop and facets of music in general. Want a crossover track? Look no further than Superstar or Hi-Definition. Braggadocios offering: Gold Watch! Some gangsta sh*t? Put You on Game or The Die and the list goes on. The main reason that I feel The Cool is superior though is that it offers Fiasco's typical abstract dimensions yet it had a surface level that was accessible to the casual listener. Therefore it had a balanced duality, something that T&Y, in my humble, lacks because Tetsuo is Lupe at his most opaque.
 
rip.dilla;7746539 said:
About it being better than The Cool? Hmmmmm.. too early to judge on that

The replay value of this new album is so high; I literally listen to it in bits every day but I think what really pushed this album to great heights was mainly the production (beats and engineering); better than on any of his previous albums. I know Lupe has been criticised sometimes for beat selection. That's not to take away from his lyricism at all

The Cool is an album I revere very much. The emotion in some of them lyrics man ..

Thats why I kinda feel over time it wont be better than The Cool. Songs like Intruder Alert are just too deep. The lyrics on the surface convey so much emotion. If you want to get into how it relates to the concept, fine, but the bare bones of that song is human. He talks about rape, addiction and poverty /immigration. It doesn't take a rocket science to understand that song.

There is no song on T&Y that delivers that type of feeling. Same with Hip Hop Saved My Life or Streets on Fire. Are those components like emotion and understanding enough to make it better than T&Y? Idk. We'll see though.
 
BobOblah;7746496 said:
not sure what it means but that line stuck with me

You ever see them movies or cartoons, like Scooby-Doo when the person is watching what's going on behind a painting, the holes of the eyes is poked out to allow the person to see? That's what came to mind when I heard that.
 
And My opinion still stands. I wasn't speaking out of nostalgia. I gave both a clear and honest listen. The Cool has skippables to me, maybe not yall, but to me there are twor three track I do not fuck with. And I love that album, but sonically, TY shyts on the Cool
 
chiyosuke;7748557 said:
And My opinion still stands. I wasn't speaking out of nostalgia. I gave both a clear and honest listen. The Cool has skippables to me, maybe not yall, but to me there are twor three track I do not fuck with. And I love that album, but sonically, TY shyts on the Cool

Which songs?
 
I wasn't a lupe fan but I checked the album of the strength of this thread and this is the most I've enjoyed a rap album in a looong time. Prisoner 2 is my shit right now, great album up and down.
 

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