Lupe Fiasco - Tetsuo and Youth Official Album Discussion 1/20/15

[playmaker88]

Man am I the only one who still is having trouble trying to find a way to listen to this album? The lyrics are so complex to listen to but when I try, the production is so amazing, and then I have to focus on the "feel" smh I don't think I will fully grasp the concepts of each record till the 80th listen. I just find key words now, but I'm still lost. For example the third verse on that Maji record I still haven't noticed it yet, I'm still trying to understand wtf the person is saying on the hook. But then I'm amazed at the sounds....

I'm trying to avoid rap genius or other deciphers Lol.

Start off with rap genius and then it will make sense to you some of the stuff you just won get because of some of the reference there are lyrics that you can make your own interpretations.. and yeah some of the hooks are hard to make out at first but .. its better to know than just have music you hear..

LISTEN TO IT

 

[Stew]

Chopper is 9 minutes worth of dead space

Outside of the hook it's trash

I don't think it's trash but definitely way too many wack niggas on a pretty nice beat.

 

[rip.dilla]

Chopper is 9 minutes worth of dead space

Outside of the hook it's trash

Thanks for listening anyway

However your opinion on HipHop on this site music has always sucked

 

[playmaker88]

bout to listen to it in reverse someones basic summation made sense and when you look at the tracks in relation to the seasons especially from the top with the christ references make more sense

 

[Listencloser]

Chopper is 9 minutes worth of dead space

Outside of the hook it's trash

I don't think it's trash but definitely way too many wack niggas on a pretty nice beat.

They all killed that shit if you bothered to listen to their lyrics. Not a whack verse.

 

[Already Home_17]

why you ready to die, you just a baby

why them tears under your eyes, you just a baby

keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby

quit chasing money, nvm, you just a baby

why you wanna be born again, you just a baby

(or since biggie died so young...)

why you playing in the streets, you just a baby

 

[Negro_Caesar]

Album is good. Not better than the cool

But the way u niggas are going into scientifical aspects of a damn rap album needs to stop lol

 

[Ranxx]

why you ready to die, you just a baby

why them tears under your eyes, you just a baby

keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby

quit chasing money, nvm, you just a baby

why you wanna be born again, you just a baby

(or since biggie died so young...)

why you playing in the streets, you just a baby

 

[Negro_Caesar]

why you ready to die, you just a baby

why them tears under your eyes, you just a baby

keep your head up in the sky, you just a baby

quit chasing money, nvm, you just a baby

why you wanna be born again, you just a baby

(or since biggie died so young...)

why you playing in the streets, you just a baby

Shit definitely went over my head

 

[Negro_Caesar]

But y incorporate nirvana in that? Thats a little off

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

But y incorporate nirvana in that? Thats a little off

Why not?

 

[CracceR]

supportin lupe the killa

 

[rip.dilla]

GOAT post @Already Home_17

 

[silverfoxx]

Tetsuo & Youth is raw, but after a week or so of being out, I can't say it's a better album than the fast talkin' on the hustle of The Cool

Y'all really think the lyrics Lupe spits are that hard to decipher? I never felt that way

its not that his lyrics are "hard to decipher", but if you're not privy to his references/allusions or have a general idea of what a song is about....you're going to be lost.

take "Body of Work" for example. If you play that for the average person, the entire song sans the production will go over their head. on the surface, the song just sounds like random bars that are strung together because they rhyme.

Thats my whole feeling of this album. I really respect it, but its looked upon as a abstract project, thats why the Cool will always be my favorite Lupe record. It was abstract, but also comprehensive and emotional at the same time. I think T and Y sounds soncially amazing, but its not hitting people like The Cool becuase it takes a while to understand wtf he is saying.

And im a fan of "a Vinci Rap" but some of his refrences and how the songs are mixed makes it easy to miss what they are saying becuase its not clear. (Madonna hook)

I think in the end i will get the Childish Gambino "Because the Internet" effect from this project which will make it a classic (Because the Internet is a classic album, forreal) because over time you understand clear what is said or you can take your own perspective of the song meaning. Which i think what he is trying to do.

 

[bdbdbd]

Chopper is 9 minutes worth of dead space

Outside of the hook it's trash

Aight real talk, I see where you are coming from it to does seem kinda random placed but think of it like this:

A) it's a dope song

B) every one one the track did what they we're asked to do and did it very well, be it lyrically or flow wise

C) it fits perfect with the winter season....shits cold and harsh...I feel like it's the perfect track to follow that I interlude. And then to be followed by deliver....yeh it all drops nicely

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Someone explained the album backwards on Youtube.

Spoiler

Spring - Celebrations in a baby shower.

They.Resurrect.Over.New - T.R.O.N, a video game that came out during Lupe's birth year (1982).

Adoration of the Magi - He's just another baby at the time adored by The Game.

Madonna - Song for the only mothers raising their babies (Lupe did have a great father figure though).

Deliver - After he grew up a little, he's starting to see the unfairness he's been given.

Chopper - He's starting to see the true dangers of the ghetto and the violence.

Winter - Shit gets real so he's forced to stay inside

No Scratches - He came out unscathed and starts wondering why his people are doing this to each other.

Little Death - as the guns start killing each other, a part of the black communities dies one after another.

Body of Work - Lupe's take on the drug game and the stereotype of his skin color that leads his people downwards.

Prisoner 1 & 2 - Lupe's friends go to jail for drugs (like Chilly Chill) where he's the visitor meeting up with them.

Fall - Lupe makes it rapping and finally sees sunshine up the road ahead

Dots & Lines - Talking about his Deal with Atlantic and how much a disaster it really was.

Blur My Hands - With the death of his deal, he can move on to another world.

Mural - The final boss of the album, a lyrical slaughter that shows Lupe at his full potential with no boundaries

Summer - The future of Lupe as an independent rapper and the freedom he feels.

And there you have it, that is the album in reverse, it's basically a documentary of Lupe's life so far and what's to come.



 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

I noticed the album cover thing but did anyone else notice, deliver

"Peace of man"(pizza) dont come around here no more"

 

[IceBergTaylor]

I noticed the album cover thing but did anyone else notice, deliver

"Peace of man"(pizza) dont come around here no more"

LOL you late dog

That was posted in here somewhere a long time ago

Lupe even tweeted it

 

[rip.dilla]

Unrelated but there was another splendid HipHop album with a conceptual story told in reverse released in the fall of 2011..

 

[Built 4 cuban linx]

I noticed the album cover thing but did anyone else notice, deliver

"Peace of man"(pizza) dont come around here no more"

LOL you late dog

That was posted in here somewhere a long time ago

Lupe even tweeted it

well damn, I guess I post this myself before someone else does