Lil' Kim/Ray J throw shots @ Nicki Minaj..Aubrey(Drake) & Nicki respond..

[ceothachosen1]

were goin off on a tangent but ill entertain it a bit more.

foxy & kim arent the same. Kim is the blueprint of wat to do & of wat not to do lol - but real talk 5 mic albums, first to really crossover mainstream & maintain that image, multi plat albums, the epitome of a down ass bitch, respect & loyalty, creatively pushed the boundaries for hardcore femcees, good enuff to still compete w/ the men, was down w/ some of th greatest to do it & is still classy. Foxy havin temper tantrums over weave, getting dropped from her label, legal troubles (multiple lawsuits, prison, etc.) & shes never really been able to overcome those obstacles that have consistently hounded her - kim on the other hand has bended them to her will & made bank off her adversities. Lyrically foxy is meh but sure she did have her success wen she did. In the real world ur judged by how u end things not how u start them. Foxy may be part of nicki's influence but its Kim whose image we relate her too.

As for recieving help.... its naive to think that all of the greats single-handedly pushed themselves to success. tupac wouldnt have been shit w/o suge knight, biggie gave jay the blueprint, even nas helped jay w/ ether, dave grohl used kurt cobain as a springboard, mj & james brown, & u get the point the list goes on. as i said tho in this world ur judged by how u end things not by how u start them. Kim is the blueprint, shes above foxy.

slow down 2pac was a star before he met suge

 

[GMANN]

that should be the green light for niggas to go at pussy ass drake, which should be easy. but lil kim gonna tear both of them a new ass hole. cant wait for the diss record.

 

[Tupacfan]

Lil kim and ray J vs. Drake and nikki minaj's ... I could care less about these acts..

But... Like someone mention, Minaj will never be on lil kims level tho.. Or reach her heights.. Nikki is garbage, seriously..

 

[KarolinaKid]

lil kim startin to look pathetic i mean she hate on every femcee that starts to git a lil shine she was dissin remy den wen remy responed she got ghost now she dissin nicki smh rather yall wanna admit it or not nicki would demolish kim she need to realise she aint got big to write for her nomo

 

[yeah i rap so don't]

why is this thread even here...really people care about this...just do not get

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Drake is out of his league. Drake and Nikki should of just shut the hell up and let it be. Everyone know Nikki is just a Lil Kim Clone, biting her style. Drake is just trying to stick up for his label mate, I understand it but Lil Kim rolls with THE GOATS. Drake, Jay was a guest apperence on your 1st album. Well Lil Kim featured Jay as a guest apperence on her 1st album BEFORE HE BLEW UP. And now she's on his label. Again, Drake you are out of your league. Someone tell this guy to fall back before his career is over before it started. Lil Kim getting her swag back, she about to remind these chicks who the Queen is, LOL.

Classic Pictures Biggie with Both of his Jump Offs and JayZ Posing with the female Jump Off classic...

 

[Bully_Pulpit]

Classic Pictures Biggie with Both of his Jump Offs and JayZ Posing with the female Jump Off classic...

Lmao, diddy was biggies jumpoff?

 

[badend66]

okay I kno the consensus is the Nicki Minaj writes garbage lyrics....

but does Kim even write her own shit???

Lil Kim actually said that she thought Christina Milian wouldve been a good choice to play her in Notorious and for that I can never take this insecure delusional bitch serious or believe that she actually writes her own shit

 

[Michael_Malice]

I don't give a fuck about female rappers or r&b singers. Shouts out to real niggas/pretty boys/rich boys nh. BASED

Damn you a Fag just like your god Lil B....You should think about taking your own life.

 

[rapmastermind]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drake & Nikki's Career.

 

[stringer bell]

...............

 

[rapmastermind]

...............

LOL, and dudes are still trying to say "What is Nikki takin from Kim". As soon as she stepped on the scene I knew she was a Kim Clone as far as how she presented herself. Her rap style is hers but her style is all Kim.



Lil Kim featuring Biggie - Drugs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikki's Career.

 

[shtoopid]

ray j. and drake are the ones who need to fall back. this "beef" don't concern them

 

[_Ozymandias_]

nicki throwing the subliminals @ kim through pics.....

nicki posted this twitpic today of her with lil kim's former manager d-roc

 

[stringer bell]

LOL, and dudes are still trying to say "What is Nikki takin from Kim". As soon as she stepped on the scene I knew she was a Kim Clone as far as how she presented herself. Her rap style is hers but her style is all Kim.



Lil Kim featuring Biggie - Drugs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikki's Career.

so far thats true...

 

[Punisher__]

I backed up my statements fam. Kim never had a gold certified album in 05 ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lil'_Kim_discography she didnt go gold in the US but she did worldwide so she went gold. & the second sentence is fallacious ur taking a small point of my argument (one thats inconsistent) & are trying to use it to discredit my entire argument. u have to pay attention to the big picture - the entire argument not pick parts that u think are easy n give u confidence to rebut.

& kim & foxy never did it together, ur judged by how u end things not by how u start them. those 2 have competed w/ each other since the beginning. & foxy & kim arent the same, if u want to measure influence u can still create a thread asking whos the bigger artist lil kim or foxy brown. & ill bet that 9 outta 10 posters will say kim (w/ all due respect to foxy). those 2 do not have the same influence on Nicki Minaj or the general public.

@ post about stalling - trying to slander & disrespect ppl only makes u appear dumber. Which is not a good look for a guy who proclaims to be well-known & well respected in The Reason. If your gonna join Jamaica's tournament debate then u are gonna have to be able to stay on topic and not go off on tangents or pick bits and pieces. You went from Nicki Minaj & Kim to Foxy & Kim. I believed you to be an intellectual (& i still do) u can go harder than this Brother. This isnt the Punisher i know from the GnS.

You're still incorrect.

First off, for the 20th time. I picked out the statement in your post that was directed towards ME. I'm not concerned about any other points you thought you made because they had ZERO to do with me and my comments.

Secondly, The Naked Truth does not have ANY type of certification from the RIAA. So no, it wasn't certified Gold. You were wrong when you first made that proclamation, and you're still wrong now. Restricting your argument from domestically to worldwide doesn't change the fact that YOU ARE WRONG.

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH_RESULTS

Third, Kim and Foxy did do it together because they came on the scene at the exact same time. You can't give full credit to Kim without ignoring Foxy, and vice versa, because they're nonsensical arguments. They came on together, and they did it together. Period. And being the bigger artist has NOTHING to do with influence, because popularity and influence are not interchangeable. Nicki Minaj (and Trina) have both cited Foxy as an inspiratin...so clearly, Foxy has been just as influential to these new age rap chicks as Kim apparently was.

Fourth, I'm not participating in the Debates anymore.

 

[rapmastermind]

Yes Kim and Foxy came at the same time but in the beginning on the "I Shot Ya Remix", Foxy was on some Thug ish where as Kim was on some fashion ish on the Junior Mafia album a whole year before Foxy was doing that. But I agree with you that Foxy was right there cause she was. Aiight guys, Lil Kim has just done a radio interview about Nikki, Drakey done messed up, you don't throw shots at the Queen, lol:

http://www.vimeo.com/12325775

"If you gonna swagger jack someone styles, pay homage" - Lil Kim

 

[Punisher__]

For someone who is apparently a "legend", Kim has to be the most insecure person in the game right now.

First off, what eats at Kim is the fact that Nicki pays homage to Foxy, and not her. It's so obvious.

Second, she's just using Nicki's name to make herself relevant again. It's a sad day for hip-hop when "legends" have to start taking pot shots.

Kim is pathetic.

 

[Monizzle]

I was at the concert last night and i tell you this new school of female fans of rap will make sure at the end of this beef Nicki ends up on top. Her applause and screaming during her set was almost as loud if not the same as when draked preformed. Regradless of how good lil kim is (and i think lil kim is better) theese new female fans love nicki and are going to buy her album and support her shows for a while. Last night show me how powerful the female market can be because they will buy albums, go to shows and support an artist financally allot more than guys. That concert was probally 60-70% women.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

I was at the concert last night and i tell you this new school of female fans of rap will make sure at the end of this beef Nicki ends up on top. Her applause and screaming during her set was almost as loud if not the same as when draked preformed. Regradless of how good lil kim is (and i think lil kim is better) theese new female fans love nicki and are going to buy her album and support her shows for a while. Last night show me how powerful the female market can be because they will buy albums, go to shows and support an artist financally allot more than guys. That concert was probally 60-70% women.

Thassit? Nicki Minaj is fine, but there are only a few things I'd pay to watch her perform (A concert is not one of them)