Let's Talk About: Demonic Possession & Exorcisms

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AZTG;5192086 said:
Why God who knows what all my actions are gonna be testing me? My destiny and fate is set right? So if I'm gonna be a serial killer and murder innocents god knows before I do right? So why create me and let me live a test you already predetermined the outcome of? If god is real he just trolling motherfuckers.

Exactly, which makes god a joke. There's no sense in god "testing" someone when the outcome is known, or when he already knew the world would sin yet feels saddened when they do then destroys them due to sin, making a new population of people only to sin again.

 
VIBE;5192112 said:
AZTG;5192086 said:
Why God who knows what all my actions are gonna be testing me? My destiny and fate is set right? So if I'm gonna be a serial killer and murder innocents god knows before I do right? So why create me and let me live a test you already predetermined the outcome of? If god is real he just trolling motherfuckers.

Exactly, which makes god a joke. There's no sense in god "testing" someone when the outcome is known, or when he already knew the world would sin yet feels saddened when they do then destroys them due to sin, making a new population of people only to sin again.

It makes no sense at all but thinking about it like that makes us illogical. Haha
 
bootcheese3000;5192075 said:
Damn some of y'all are ignorant as FUCK. I can't even finish this 2nd page without shaking my head in shame. Some of you cats really don't know what you're talking about.

Opening yourself up to demons in order to experience God/Allah....now THAT'S some STOOPID-ASS SHIT to tell someone. True enough you can't get to Heaven before going to Hell but to say you have to be evil or communicate with demons to get there is not good advice. Whoever said that evil will follow you if you're doing good is correct, I know I can attest to that (Hell it's happening right now!). For the atheists speaking on a subject they're myopically limited on (I'm not saying I'm a guru but I'm no fool when it comes to spirituality of ALL FORMS, and that includes what Eurocated scholars call "mythology") apparently you believed that 1nce upon a time there was a God. I've stated here before you can't defy that there's a God unless you BELIEVE that one exists, how can you believe in something that doesn't exist in the 1st place?

Now as far as this subject is concerned yes, possession is real and does happen but it's not just demons like people are led to believe, in some instances angels possess a individual if not a ancient deity. There are ceremonies to call upon these spirits to help and assist and sometimes they possess the vessel to get their message across and to swiftly assist whoever needs it. These are some of the things I'm studying at the moment, I've had my fuckin' fill of demons and evil vibrations for 10 lifetimes, the world is ready for a healing. The question is ARE YOU?

I never said to open yourself up to demons to experience god that would make no sense. i said if you want to experience the paranormal it is easier to do so if you seek the darkside. atheist cannot or refuse to see god it is however easier to see the devil and i am not just taking about the reality of evil men. They question the existence of the spirit world because they have not seen any proof it is easier to find proof of the dark side than light so i told them to start there it's maybe the only way for them to experience it.
 
AZTG;5192086 said:
Why God who knows what all my actions are gonna be testing me? My destiny and fate is set right? So if I'm gonna be a serial killer and murder innocents god knows before I do right? So why create me and let me live a test you already predetermined the outcome of? If god is real he just trolling motherfuckers.

Not every action is predetermined god sees and knows all the possibilities before you make them and gives you a chance to make the right ones.
 
.IRS.;5191428 said:
100 Prime;5191420 said:
.IRS.;5191409 said:
And who said god had to drowned the devil? He's god for god's sake, throw that little bastard in the lake of fire already! What it aint made yet? How long it take to make? God made the whole shibang in 6days!!

that time is coming soon.. dont you read the Bible? have you read the prophecies? dont you know what the 7 trumpets are? this aint some throw away game hes playing lol. "oh the devil showed up? lemme scrap that right quick" lol the devil is suppose to be here. its a war over souls.

Back the fuck up, you aint got nothin on me as far as understanding the bible, do not address me again, cuz I will not respond.

LOL!!! excuse me... LOL!!!!

 
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

you lost when you compared God to a animal. i have never heard a good argument why there is no God.... there is no logical reason. everything is misinformed, extreme, short-sighted, ignorant, and just not logical.

when your argument is persistently comparing God to santa clause or some other youth story figure, its just not a argument. it makes you look silly to even drop those comparisons. its really not even worth a reply, the ignorance irritates my soul.. so im just done talking about it. it is what it is, you can believe whatever you want. i tried to put logic on here for the atheists but of course, they use ignorance & insults as their arguing chip. nothing new there. same everywhere you go with atheists. ugly people.

 
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

The difference between god and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with god.
 
100 Prime;5193955 said:
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

you lost when you compared God to a animal. i have never heard a good argument why there is no God.... there is no logical reason. everything is misinformed, extreme, short-sighted, ignorant, and just not logical.

when your argument is persistently comparing God to santa clause or some other youth story figure, its just not a argument. it makes you look silly to even drop those comparisons. its really not even worth a reply, the ignorance irritates my soul.. so im just done talking about it. it is what it is, you can believe whatever you want. i tried to put logic on here for the atheists but of course, they use ignorance & insults as their arguing chip. nothing new there. same everywhere you go with atheists. ugly people.

To be fair, I've never heard a good reason or argument for the existence of god
 
zombie;5193999 said:
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

The difference between god and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with god.

Religion has made the attempt to describe god enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison
 
Roots Oceanic ;5194069 said:
100 Prime;5193955 said:
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

you lost when you compared God to a animal. i have never heard a good argument why there is no God.... there is no logical reason. everything is misinformed, extreme, short-sighted, ignorant, and just not logical.

when your argument is persistently comparing God to santa clause or some other youth story figure, its just not a argument. it makes you look silly to even drop those comparisons. its really not even worth a reply, the ignorance irritates my soul.. so im just done talking about it. it is what it is, you can believe whatever you want. i tried to put logic on here for the atheists but of course, they use ignorance & insults as their arguing chip. nothing new there. same everywhere you go with atheists. ugly people.

To be fair, I've never heard a good reason or argument for the existence of god

there is no ONE good argument.. its EVERYTHING. its the bigger picture.. its everything together.

only ONE argument i can say is this, whats the purpose of life. why are we here.. how did we get here.. and everything that science leans towards is illogical cuz science would tell you life is meaningless and we are here by accident.. no meaning is illogical.

basically, what im saying is, the truth is not "so simple" as you would like to believe, "we just here, we live, then we die, and thats it" (im sure thats not far off from your beliefs?)

that makes no sense, if you think about it.

but really, the truth is simple, if you shake that pride off.

but regardless, you will think whatever you want, no matter what scripture is presented to you, no matter what facts is presented to you, nothing in this world will change your mind. you will have to either witness Jesus' 2nd coming, or die in order for you to have a change of heart.
 
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Personally, I believe that man decides his own purpose. Why must there be a divine purpose? The only purpose I see is to live in harmony with others but that is my personal interpretation. A grain of sand in the ocean may have no significant purpose alone in the grand scheme of things. What makes you think your existence alone holds any significance within the whole of the universe? You are here because of certain causes and conditions before you but there is no reason to assume divinity played a role in your being here.
 
Roots Oceanic ;5194167 said:
Your assumptions about my beliefs are innaccurate

so why are we here? you didnt answer that. you just said live peacefully. but why? if we just come and go to blackness after we die, what would living with any morality mean? why? there has to be a reason to live in harmony.

you have to give to get. but if you giving (living morally and peacefully amongst others), what are you getting in return if we just fade to black?? for every action theres a reaction. no different than the life you live. but your body dying is not the end of the rope.... its just the beginning.

 
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Roots Oceanic ;5194089 said:
zombie;5193999 said:
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

The difference between god and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with god.

Religion has made the attempt to describe god enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison

No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described god's reactions to man and the universe but not god itself, anything else you can put in a box but not god.
 
I did answer that. We are here because of past actions.

As conscious beings, we are responsible for our actions. We live to preserve our being and prolong our existence. It is only logical that we treat others with the same respect. The one is in the all. The ethics of reciprocity.

I told you before, I do not believe that we just fade to black and thats it so the rest of your post I will ignore.
 
Roots Oceanic ;5194264 said:
I did answer that. We are here because of past actions.

As conscious beings, we are responsible for our actions. We live to preserve our being and prolong our existence. It is only logical that we treat others with the same respect. The one is in the all. The ethics of reciprocity.

I told you before, I do not believe that we just fade to black and thats it so the rest of your post I will ignore.

see what i mean.. your answeres are short sighted.. like i said a few posts up.. why are WE here.. why is MANKIND here??? how did WE (MANKIND) get here????? a big bang? please dont tell me a big bang.. if thats your answer. dont even waste your key strokes.
 
How are they short sighted? You are here the same way I am here. We are here; mankind is here because of past actions, causes and conditions that shaped our current existence.

 
Roots Oceanic ;5194322 said:
How are they short sighted? You are here the same way I am here. We are here; mankind is here because of past actions, causes and conditions that shaped our current existence.

lol again...

so your a believer in evolution.. so what did we evolve from.. some species of the ape family.. and what did they evolve from.. and so on and so forth.. then go back to the very 1st species (we are just using your logic here.. or illogics.. ) go back to the very 1st species.. now how did that VERY 1ST species get here...... and everything else in this world... universe.. dont you find it amazing how everything in the universe is connected.. kind of like how everything in this world is connected.. we all need everything in the world.. like it was meant for us to live here.. kinda crazy right? kind of like we were put here for a reason... and whoever put us here gave us everything we needed to survive and grow as people.. not creatures.. but as people.
 
zombie;5194260 said:
Roots Oceanic ;5194089 said:
zombie;5193999 said:
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

The difference between god and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with god.

Religion has made the attempt to describe god enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison

No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described god's reactions to man and the universe but not god itself, anything else you can put in a box but not god.

zombie;5194260 said:
Roots Oceanic ;5194089 said:
zombie;5193999 said:
.IRS.;5193894 said:
So if unicorns don't exist, its gonna pretty hard for me to find proof of it not existing, in fact, the lack of proof is the proof.

The difference between god and a unicorn is that one has a frame of reference a unicorn is a horse with a horn on it's head you can describe it in physical terms the same goes for santa the easter bunny and anything man can accurately describe. the same cannot be done with god.

Religion has made the attempt to describe god enough to base a system of faith and following. The descrptions are obviously enough for you to trust that he exists but instead of a unicorn or physical entity, we could replace it with any spiritual being for comparison

No, you cannot compare the two. you cannot compare something that is graspable to something that has no relation to anything physical. Unless you have experienced the un-physical how can you describe it. and even if you do experience the un-physical you can only describe it in physical terms. all Things we talk and think about has a relation to some thing else that can be described with our senses. religion described god's reactions to man and the universe but not god itself, anything else you can put in a box but not god.

I'm not the person that describes the un-physical. Theists generally do that so those questions are really for you to answer.

If everything we talk about exists in relation to something else, god must exist in the same way. If he does not, how are we to be aware of his existence?
 

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