Let's discuss why Black folk run away from being apart of Africa

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Abraxas ;8576460 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

There's is no obligation. But comparing how we're related to Africans... to how Europeans are related to Africans is stupid.

I'll give an example. My michondrial paternal lineage is based in cameroon with a specific ethic group. a 100% match.

Out of my own personal desire I made this connection, out of curiosity.

This is not possible for europeans. So to compare our recent Genesis to the European ancestors leaving Africa is idealistic, at best.

This is all I needed to know. Nobody owes Africa or Africans anything. Its a personal choice and people will make that choice or not make that choice. Nothing wrong with either.
 
zzombie;8576469 said:
SELASI_i;8576456 said:
and this premise is also only relative if you subscribe to white history that every black person in the america's had ancestors who came over on slave boats, i'm not denying the slave trade one bit but to give the white man that much credit is foolish. there very well was who you would call blacks in america before the white man got here, so are the descendants of those people obligated to africa as well? I know that those ancestors traveled from africa to get here so i'm not playing semantics but the thing is, we put civilization in motion, don't limit yourself to anything. and if Africa is in your path by all means go. One of Ol dirty Bastards ancestors was one of the ones who sold parts of manhattan through a bullshit treaty. we should set claim to all not just some, no matter where you go there you are.

utter foolishness there exists no real hard proof that africans lived in the americas before the slave trade

This identity crisis african americans suffer from is so sad

like I said ol dirty bastard, the rapper, one of his great great grandfathers was one of the natives who he could trace his lineage to. now you have to ask is black just what we think an african is? because there are many kinds of so called black people if you want to be general.

do you know that the texas school system is trying to remove slavery from it's history books? they are going to say that those people were migrant "workers" not slaves, immigrants. so if history as recent as 150 some odd years is being tampered with for political reasons, what makes you think that it hasn't happen or isn't still going on?
 
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Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

So? According to some we were here before whites, so whites just brought us back.

Nevermind that, Israel as it exists now is not the same as before and second, i don't see jews being pressured to go to Israel. They have an open door policy for Jews. Some African nations have the same thing but the difference is this external pressure being applied for Black Americans to abandon their lives and ways of life to live amongst strangers with the same skin color.

Niggas in Detroit and Chicago ain't the same culturally but you think people should just jump to Ghana and Nigeria just cuz? That's irrational.
 
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

These niggas dont wanna be logical they just wanna use big words to sound smart.

Problem is I understand those words
 
jono;8576488 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

So? According to some we were here before whites, so whites just brought us back.

Nevermind that, Israel as it exists now is not the same as before and second, i don't see jews being pressured to go to Israel. They have an open door policy for Jews. Some African nations have the same thing but the difference is this external pressure being applied for Black Americans to abandon their lives and ways of life to live amongst strangers with the same skin color.

Niggas in Detroit and Chicago ain't the same culturally but you think people should just jump to Ghana and Nigeria just cuz? That's irrational.

You're greatly exaggerating. There hasn't been real external pressure for us to go back to Africa since the Liberian debacle.

anything other than that has been black Americans encouraging others for cultural/economic enrichment
 
Ajackson17;8576448 said:
yellowtapesport;8576421 said:
Abraxas ;8576396 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Any mutations that may have sprung up that are advantageous enough to gain enough priority to assimilate and differentiate AA's from african offspring would take many hundreds of years. especially considering how many of us there are here, and how little time we've been here in a genetic sense.

Our only difference in that small amount of time stems from our mixing with the other races.

your understanding of genetics is infantile, at best.

So your point is that eventually over time you will agree with what I proposed?

Smart dumbass

You're not understanding, genetic variations take time over in a specific area in a different ecology than the one they gained their phenotype. It takes more than almost 400 years and some of us haven't been here that long. And it's longer than 1000 years for a shift that would make us a different ethnicity.

Again, so OVER TIME you will agree to what I'm saying, right? If it's a proven fact that mutations occur over time (and I dont got US going back no time soon) then after all that time will there still be a case for us to go back to Africa?
 
Abraxas ;8576501 said:
jono;8576488 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

So? According to some we were here before whites, so whites just brought us back.

Nevermind that, Israel as it exists now is not the same as before and second, i don't see jews being pressured to go to Israel. They have an open door policy for Jews. Some African nations have the same thing but the difference is this external pressure being applied for Black Americans to abandon their lives and ways of life to live amongst strangers with the same skin color.

Niggas in Detroit and Chicago ain't the same culturally but you think people should just jump to Ghana and Nigeria just cuz? That's irrational.

You're greatly exaggerating. There hasn't been real external pressure for us to go back to Africa since the Liberian debacle.

anything other than that has been black Americans encouraging others for cultural/economic enrichment

There's more than one type of pressure. The American government hasn't pressured blacks to go back to Africa since the Liberian incident but within Black America there is. You use the term "encouraging" but what happens when someone says they don't want to?

They are lambasted and positioned as some whitewashed coon that hates himself and his people yada yada yada...all the fuckery that is behind it.
 
SELASI_i;8576468 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

they took some land that was never theirs in the first place those people were converts who stole that part of the world by force thats why it will never be peace in that region.

True. Very true. But just giving a reference on how people who were taken out from their own land and made their way back even though it was through violence and aggression they were in that area in the first place.
 
jono;8576488 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

So? According to some we were here before whites, so whites just brought us back.

Nevermind that, Israel as it exists now is not the same as before and second, i don't see jews being pressured to go to Israel. They have an open door policy for Jews. Some African nations have the same thing but the difference is this external pressure being applied for Black Americans to abandon their lives and ways of life to live amongst strangers with the same skin color.

Niggas in Detroit and Chicago ain't the same culturally but you think people should just jump to Ghana and Nigeria just cuz? That's irrational.

Lol, did you not see where I mention that not everyone should go back if their hearts are not set on rebuilding and building a relationship bridge?
 
Ajackson17;8576542 said:
SELASI_i;8576468 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

they took some land that was never theirs in the first place those people were converts who stole that part of the world by force thats why it will never be peace in that region.

True. Very true. But just giving a reference on how people who were taken out from their own land and made their way back even though it was through violence and aggression they were in that area in the first place.

yeah but that situation right there isn't very hard to do when you got the united states of america backing you through military force.
 
jono;8576513 said:
Abraxas ;8576501 said:
jono;8576488 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

So? According to some we were here before whites, so whites just brought us back.

Nevermind that, Israel as it exists now is not the same as before and second, i don't see jews being pressured to go to Israel. They have an open door policy for Jews. Some African nations have the same thing but the difference is this external pressure being applied for Black Americans to abandon their lives and ways of life to live amongst strangers with the same skin color.

Niggas in Detroit and Chicago ain't the same culturally but you think people should just jump to Ghana and Nigeria just cuz? That's irrational.

You're greatly exaggerating. There hasn't been real external pressure for us to go back to Africa since the Liberian debacle.

anything other than that has been black Americans encouraging others for cultural/economic enrichment

There's more than one type of pressure. The American government hasn't pressured blacks to go back to Africa since the Liberian incident but within Black America there is. You use the term "encouraging" but what happens when someone says they don't want to?

They are lambasted and positioned as some whitewashed coon that hates himself and his people yada yada yada...all the fuckery that is behind it.

I'd say that amount AA's that do as you say is an extremely small minority in the community...but ok.
 
yellowtapesport;8576511 said:
Ajackson17;8576448 said:
yellowtapesport;8576421 said:
Abraxas ;8576396 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Any mutations that may have sprung up that are advantageous enough to gain enough priority to assimilate and differentiate AA's from african offspring would take many hundreds of years. especially considering how many of us there are here, and how little time we've been here in a genetic sense.

Our only difference in that small amount of time stems from our mixing with the other races.

your understanding of genetics is infantile, at best.

So your point is that eventually over time you will agree with what I proposed?

Smart dumbass

You're not understanding, genetic variations take time over in a specific area in a different ecology than the one they gained their phenotype. It takes more than almost 400 years and some of us haven't been here that long. And it's longer than 1000 years for a shift that would make us a different ethnicity.

Again, so OVER TIME you will agree to what I'm saying, right? If it's a proven fact that mutations occur over time (and I dont got US going back no time soon) then after all that time will there still be a case for us to go back to Africa?

Over time, but it takes a lot longer than 500 years for this to occur. This is what you are not understanding. Like another poster said you cannot compare 10,000 years to a mere 300 years.
 
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Abraxas ;8576553 said:
jono;8576513 said:
Abraxas ;8576501 said:
jono;8576488 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

So? According to some we were here before whites, so whites just brought us back.

Nevermind that, Israel as it exists now is not the same as before and second, i don't see jews being pressured to go to Israel. They have an open door policy for Jews. Some African nations have the same thing but the difference is this external pressure being applied for Black Americans to abandon their lives and ways of life to live amongst strangers with the same skin color.

Niggas in Detroit and Chicago ain't the same culturally but you think people should just jump to Ghana and Nigeria just cuz? That's irrational.

You're greatly exaggerating. There hasn't been real external pressure for us to go back to Africa since the Liberian debacle.

anything other than that has been black Americans encouraging others for cultural/economic enrichment

There's more than one type of pressure. The American government hasn't pressured blacks to go back to Africa since the Liberian incident but within Black America there is. You use the term "encouraging" but what happens when someone says they don't want to?

They are lambasted and positioned as some whitewashed coon that hates himself and his people yada yada yada...all the fuckery that is behind it.

I'd say that amount AA's that do as you say is an extremely small minority in the community...but ok.

I dont remember saying what number of people it was.
 
SELASI_i;8576548 said:
Ajackson17;8576542 said:
SELASI_i;8576468 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

they took some land that was never theirs in the first place those people were converts who stole that part of the world by force thats why it will never be peace in that region.

True. Very true. But just giving a reference on how people who were taken out from their own land and made their way back even though it was through violence and aggression they were in that area in the first place.

yeah but that situation right there isn't very hard to do when you got the united states of america backing you through military force.

True. But that's why I used a different historical time versus the back migration in 1948.
 
@jono no one is saying all African Americans to go back to Africa. What we are saying some of us should go back. I think we should have a strong population here especially from an economic standpoint.
 
Ajackson17;8576557 said:
SELASI_i;8576548 said:
Ajackson17;8576542 said:
SELASI_i;8576468 said:
Ajackson17;8576451 said:
jono;8576423 said:
Abraxas ;8576414 said:
jono;8576402 said:
yellowtapesport;8576341 said:
Ajackson17;8576303 said:
yellowtapesport;8576287 said:
zzombie;8576262 said:
yellowtapesport;8576130 said:
Every race of human originated in Africa so why are we the only race that feels obligated to go back...

'I ain't leavin without my 40 acres..'

every race did not originate in africa they mutated outside of africa in other words they became what they are outside of africa

So wtf did we do and how is that any different?

Study genetic mutations and phenotypes.
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/mutationsanddisorders/genemutation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21955/
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/mutations_05

There you go brotha. Two from government website and one from Berkeley University. Peer Reviewed.

Brother no disrespect but fuck yo links

HUMAN evolution tells us that we ALL evolved from a common ancestor that originated in Africa. Mutations occur randomly and can be responses to external stimuli so I propose that African Americans can be looked at as a mutated version of Africans just as Europeans (cave men) are a mutated version of Africans.

So again, why are we the only ones obligated to go back?

Hmmmm kind of an interesting point

It would be if we were here for maybe, 500 years.

but 150-250 is less than a speck in genetic miscegenation.

It doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. All human life springs from Africa, humans travel all over the globe so why are African Americans being constantly pressured to "go back" (which is crazy considering you can't "go back" where you never were) but not whites or Afro-Caribbeans or Asians etc?

What is the obligation African Americans have to Africa or even vice versa?

Due to force, not free will of our ancestors.

The Jews came back to Judea after being in exile for so long.

they took some land that was never theirs in the first place those people were converts who stole that part of the world by force thats why it will never be peace in that region.

True. Very true. But just giving a reference on how people who were taken out from their own land and made their way back even though it was through violence and aggression they were in that area in the first place.

yeah but that situation right there isn't very hard to do when you got the united states of america backing you through military force.

True. But that's why I used a different historical time versus the back migration in 1948.

i got u, i was thinking about 48'
 
I think this all goes back to Roots the problem for a long time is that some American blacks simply don't know where to go to trace their lineage so it becomes a moot point and the roots we build in America start there
 
I haven't read the thread.. As an african I just want to say this..

If Africa was to get their self together politically.. (Something that may never happen because of overt and covert forces). It will transform into the most powerful continent. We have all the resources to be self sufficient.. There is an embarrassment of riches in African as it pertains to natural resources..
 
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ChillaDaKilla;8576583 said:
I think this all goes back to Roots the problem for a long time is that some American blacks simply don't know where to go to trace their lineage so it becomes a moot point and the roots we build in America start there

This is a lie. If you'd like, there are tests that can find out what ethnic group your paternal and maternal lineages stem from, or if you'd like to know what percentages of different African ethnic groups you come from there's admixture tests etc etc.... welcome to the technological age.
 

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