Let's be real, the buck stops with the female.

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UPTOWN (CONNEXX);3460143 said:
well if you really wanna go there ... we can post up babes that we smashing then .... cause im starting to think your whole shit is a front

you might have preference ... but do you have babez tho???

no I dont have any kids...and why are we posting pics of women that were "smashing"??
 
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desertrain10;3460567 said:
woman should start making better decisions, but other than that what's ur point? you want the US to become even more of a police state??? how about telling men and women to stop having unprotected sex if he or she is not ready to become a parent????

ok yea women have the power to bring life into this world ... but why side with a man who ultimately gave it to her??? should he be absolved of all responsibility??? if she decides to have it she isn't absolved from responsibility from the child so why should he be?? and wouldn't that hurt children and soceity as a whole more than anything if we didn't ask absentee fathers to be fathers? and why would any man want to force a woman into having a baby anyways... seems like cruel and unusual punishment and no where close to asking a man to pay a small percentage of his monthly salary to help finance his seed

also for every woman who purposely got pregnant looking for a free ride there are two single mothers who had children with their husbands/bfs but were left to raise them alone because he got scared or met another woman.... should we sit back and let these women suffer? or the single fathers and grandmothers who receive support???

To use another analogy -

If you're wearing gasoline drawers and niggas walking around with matches, are you going to put on regular (non-flammable) drawers or worry about the niggas with matches ?
 
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overall I agree with OP....BUT that line of thinking requires common sense. and it's too many people fuckin out here without it. you can't fuck a ratchet person then get mad when they do ratchet shit.
 
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7fIG;3460343 said:
Fixed that for ya.

how is the woman less accountable when she is given custodial custody of the child automatically??

Even though you're not addressing the topic, I'll respond to this. It may not be realistic because that's not the way it goes down today, but maybe it should. In China, there is supposedly limits to the number of children a family can have. And to address the father not wanting the child, why is that so weird to you ? If the mother doesn't want the child, it's a goner - so if takes two then why shouldn't the father have any say in the abortion ?

yes but ur blaming her for the first child LOL!!!

the 2nd part i agree with .. a man should have a say. woman should also have to submit to joint custody and allow the man to have access to the records of exactly what the child support money was spent on, if she applies for child support. you will never hear me say the domestic court system is correct in its current state. does a woman have an unfair "advantage" on the topic of abortion. yes .. she does. but the arguement that you refuse to look at it is that abortion IS AFTER THE FACT!! how can you just skip the part where you ejaculated in her??? why are niggas so scared of being parents but not scared of who theyre fucking?? what in your life is gonna change??? you cant play xbox wit ya boys as much anymore, cant go out EVERY weekend cause its your turn to have the kid??? none of this is exactly life ending events my friend. youre pretty much singing the toys r us theme song .... i can see if you had to take care of the woman too

Not that this isn't a good recommendation, but why are you taking the responsibility away from the actual person who gets pregnant ?

define "gets pregnant" ... who ejaculated in her?? she didnt just "get" preggo like you go "get" a pair of jordans. that right there shows your maturity. its both of their "fault" ... why should the baby die he didnt do shit wrong lol. they should both have to sacrifice 50/50

when she decides to keep the baby. whether she is with the man or not the baby is more her resposibility the his. if the child goes to school one day with a bad bruise etc. she faces legal action. i know a girl who just got out of county jail for leaving her kids home while she went out to the club. us men can go to the club as much as we want. even if we miss child support payments we dont face jace till the shit gets in the thousands. why do you think a woman with a kid has it made or something?? LOL


This really ain't about a guy not accepting responsibility. It's about the woman, who has the most power, accepting responsibility. I guess you just choose not see that.

a woman does not have the most power. the balance of power shifts based on our actions. thats called being a man. you are the soul controller of everything around you. when you make a mistake, you dont beg for help, you dont ask for a do over young man LOL. if a girl getting pregnant is so devastating to your life that you feel she has the most power. then you my friend have been feminized, and she doesnt even respect you as a man. which is why she didnt get the abortion when you asked her to. you have to be a lil bitch ass nigga or be fucking with the biggest bird head bitch out there if any woman you deal with on that level cant be reasoned with. stop trying to sympathize with bitch ass niggas who aint doing shit in life anyway. 75% of these ppl out here( male and female) lives are without any real purpose anyway. its not like theyre leaving some prestigous college to take care of a child just days before their research was gonna pay off and find a cure for aids and the common cold. muhphukkas cant even come up with a real excuse as to why they should have an abortion

No it's their fault that they won't take more responsibility for the power they have. Women are chosen by nature to carry the baby and can do a whole lot to control the situation but don't. You ever heard the expression "Nip it in the bud" ? It has to do with stopping things at the source. To me, the source is the woman - and she has an abundance of ways to stop it. Take some fuckin' responsibility.
the source of the problem is when the women allows herself to be impregnated AND WHEN A MAN EJACULATES IN A WOMAN

in your world .. niggas could just nut in bitches left and right and wouldnt even have to think twice. LOL on some "she know not to have the baby" shit LOL
thats not even how it should be let alone how it is

 
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So the only argument against this a logical fallacy (aka Straw man) ?

Because no one said the man isn't partially responsible, just that the woman has more control. Feel free to address that directly.
 
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UPTOWN (CONNEXX);3458356 said:
LOL ... nigga please ... furthermore .. having a kid is in fact a big responsibility. but you obviously dont have a child if you think all that other shit is a reality when having a kid LOL. ive pulled chicks just because my son was a cute baby and thats just seeing his baby pic .. not him actually being an infant at the time .... your study of women needs to go further my friend. alot of the shit yall believe is either a myth or is not as common as you think

WTF are you talm about?

What im ultimately saying is that most men view kids as a possibly eventual responsibility that WHEN READY FOR, they'll want and take care off.

Most women view kids, regardless of when they have them, whether married or not, as some deeper fulfillment of their societal duty. Which is why they don't give a fuck about popping em out whether or nor they're ready for them. Which is retarded.

And they have more control, that cant be argued.
 
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7fIG;3461279 said:
So the only argument against this a logical fallacy (aka Straw man) ?

Because no one said the man isn't partially responsible, just that the woman has more control. Feel free to address that directly.

ok ...and thats common sense. it's her body... but that doesn't change the fact that a man has to first impregnate a woman before she can ultimately has the power to do anything... so again what's ur point????
 
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desertrain10;3461542 said:
ok ...and thats common sense. it's her body... but that doesn't change the fact that a man has to first impregnate a woman before she can ultimately has the power to do anything... so again what's ur point????

18 pages in and dudes are still missing the point...

no one said men arent responsible

no one said a man didnt have to impregnate a female

no one said a man shouldnt take responsibility
 
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copperkid27;3461565 said:
18 pages in and dudes are still missing the point...

no one said men arent responsible

no one said a man didnt have to impregnate a female

no one said a man shouldnt take responsibility

right. lol. never said that....

@ bolded enlighten me
 
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desertrain10;3461617 said:
right. lol. never said that.... i'm just trying to figure out the point yall and t/s tryna make????

thesis statement - women have more options on not having an baby than a man
 
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desertrain10;3461617 said:
right. lol. never said that....

@ bolded enlighten me

Answer the question about gasoline drawers from the previous page first. I'm gettin' exhausted trying to find different ways to say this shit.
 
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T. Sanford;3461632 said:
thesis statement - women have more options on not having an baby than a man

ok. i got that. but thats common sense. its her body at the end of the day. but i fail to see how that means men should not have to

pay for their consequences.... it may sound like a great way to equal the playing field but excusing these men from their duties as fathers

will do more to harm soceity as a whole than not .....
 
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Hell, as far as "damaged goods" goes, any female that has visible evidence that she's been piped in the past is damaged goods to me. Same as a car with scratches on it...automatically decreases the value. Sounds harsh, but hey...

And as far as expanding on the "women have more options", like I laid out before, that's not arguable...it's fact. However, I would venture to say that if men had the same choices as women did when it comes to having a kid, the only single moms you'd see running around would be widows and divorcees. Not one sane man on this earth would allow a female he has no desire to be in a relationship with keep his seed.

But....we don't, and are therefore responsible for whatever decision she makes once she's pregnant.
 
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I am pretty aware that I can get pregnant, so I don't have unprotected sex with someone who I will regret getting pregnant by. I had 2 miscarriages never had abortions
 
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