Lets be real Ross making it hard for Jeezy or Tip to eat right now!!!

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infamous114;4132667 said:
Drake and Nicki were on that list. That kinda invalidates your point. I think Cole deserved to be on the list

drake & nikki is on 1 of da hottest labelz n hiphop YMCMB & r PLATINUM sellin artist unlike j cole so they spot is automatic
 
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lol @ Gee bein hypocritical, when MTV/white america dont acknowledge Ross then its cuz he keep it so real, but then we him and his MMG crew get some shine, then its all good and a sign that he is soooo hot......SMH only in the IC
 
H-Rap 180;4132564 said:
StillDreaming;4132510 said:
GSonII;4132481 said:
Yeah, we shall see as we have already seen before. Ross aint gonna sell no records but you guys will claim the album is the greatest thing you ever heard. Krit probably get more downloads than T.I., Ross, or Jeezy of free shit but he aint gonna sell neither. Aint none of these dudes repping for me or you, only a lame can't see that. Ross is the wackest rapper going. Wack fantasy content. Word to DMX, fuck Ross over the top fantasy ass.

In 2012 Musically Ross>>> TI and Jeezy(ESPECIALLY TI)

Not sure why that makes u so angry

That poor kid is angry and that pleases me, I'm just glad he's willing to invest his energy in listening to Ross so we can prove to the world that even the people who think he's wack still find it impossible to not listen to his music. Rozay is Winnin!

Wild Self;4132469 said:
@ H-Rap what doesnt help now is that black folk are looking towards whites for inspiration for their fashion and "swag" sense.

Yeah we used to set the trends but all of a sudden we wanted to "party like rockstars" and dress like them too.

That skater, hipster, rocker swag will die off sooner or later but as long as Wayne is at the top it will most likely remain popular.

\:D/

doubt that. That hipster culture is here to stay. If Wayne dies at his prime of his fame, then it will have the same impact as when Pac died and everyone wanted to look like a thug.

Ross's buzz died down a bit cause of his health issues, but I see him going to go hard this summer with Self Made 2 and GFID.
 
DaBull;4132677 said:
lol @ Gee bein hypocritical, when MTV/white america dont acknowledge Ross then its cuz he keep it so real, but then we him and his MMG crew get some shine, then its all good and a sign that he is soooo hot......SMH only in the IC

if u have cable then u know that MTVJAMZ is da BLK MTV MUSIK CHANNEL that playz nuttin but BLK VIDEOZ RAP, R&B, HIPHOP & SOUL MUSIK videoz all day 24/7 & that is waT da HOTTEST MCz is on thatz y da votin panel was BLKZ & LATINOZ so that shit is legit thatz y that cracka feminem wasnt on da list!

Wild Self;4132683 said:
doubt that. That hipster culture is here to stay. If Wayne dies at his prime of his fame, then it will have the same impact as when Pac died and everyone wanted to look like a thug.

Ross's buzz died down a bit cause of his health issues, but I see him going to go hard this summer with Self Made 2 and GFID.

how did ross buzz go down when he just got voted hottest mc of da 2k11?
 
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GeE-757;4132632 said:
H-Rap 180;4132620 said:
The last time Jeezy went platinum was 2006 the same year Rozay made his debut, since then Jeezy has two Gold albums and Ross has two Gold albums. Presently Tm103 is at 478,000 copies but it shipped Gold.

Artists can't eat off record sales alone, you need to tour, sell them singles, guest verses and exec-produce some successful projects from artists signed on your imprint....get your endorsements up: Nike, Ciroc, Wingstop etc.

I'm sure Def Jam would have liked Jeezys second to last project to go platinum like his first two but this is a different era.

....now that sales have been discussed at length use your resources and look at the critical ratings that all 3 artists got for their last albums.

i wonda wat that fool gsonII gotta say about that it seemz like hez da 1 livin n a fantasy world on jeezyz nutz lol

Hes going to tell you that "Teflon Don" was released on July 20 2010 and was certified GOLD on November 10 2010 and that because it took about 3 months to go Gold (112 days) it "struggled" even tho 99% of rappers dont even go GOLD to begin with.

But he wont tell you that "The Recession" was released on September 02 2008 and was certified GOLD on December 10th 2008 and that it took about 3 months to go GOLD (99 days) and "struggle" it did not.....



Thats based on RIAA certifications.


But sales is only one part of the game, some artists have the ability to help the artists around them become more successful so you have to give T.I. credit for making B.O.B a Pop-rap star and Ross for ressurecting Wale's career.

 
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H-Rap 180;4132743 said:
Hes going to tell you that "Teflon Don" was released on July 20 2010 and was certified GOLD on November 10 2010 and that because it took about 3 months to go Gold (112 days) it "struggled" even tho 99% of rappers dont even go GOLD to begin with.

But he wont tell you that "The Recession" was released on September 02 2008 and was certified GOLD on December 10th 2008 and that it took about 3 months to go GOLD (99 days) and "struggle" it did not.....



Thats based on RIAA certifications.


But sales is only one part of the game, some artists have the ability to help the artists around them become more successful so you have to give T.I. credit for making B.O.B a Pop-rap star and Ross for ressurecting Wale's career.

i bet...imean sum1 was just n herr talkin about jeezy goes gold faster then ross which is clearly FALSE smh.....& i dont even c sum1 like freddie fibbz sellin ova 100k mmg & gh has had mo success releasin other solo actz then jeezy has like wit ross & wale & ti & bob but my problem wit ti is hez gettin 2 europeeon fa me imean hez really sellin out wit these pop & white actz but hey if thatz wat he gotta do it is wat it is but he nor jeezy can neva diss rozay cuz ross aint neva sell out & white wash his label & do trakz wit racist crackaz i hope ross dont eva change cuz thatz gonna b a sad day n hiphop if mmg getz WHITE WASH;D i couldnt believe when i was watchin tipz sho on vh-1 his son was sayin he lovez white gurlz & hez WHITE lol smh,.,.
 
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HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

who said ross was betta? but da thang is tip sold out when he got on a trak wit feminem instead of dissin him like rick ross & when da crackaz pet muuuunkee woodface was talkin shit ti aint do shit while ross stomp;d on da muuuunkeez head & just fa that alone i have mo respect fa rozay.,.,.imean i dont think tip couldve went 2 war wit woodface & come out da victor like ross & have woodfacez cracka slavemassah JIMMY IOVINE & his cross dressin baawse GAY AZZ DRE congratulatin him after defeatin da muuuunkee like they did wit ROZAY plus ti would neva go against da grain & diss MARSHALL lol
 
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GeE-757;4132855 said:
HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

who said ross was betta? but da thang is tip sold out when he got on a trak wit feminem instead of dissin him like rick ross & when da crackaz pet muuuunkee woodface was talkin shit ti aint do shit while ross stomp;d on da muuuunkeez head & just fa that alone i have mo respect fa rozay.,.,.imean i dont think tip couldve went 2 war wit woodface & come out da victor like ross & have woodfacez cracka slavemassah JIMMY IOVINE & his cross dressin baawse GAY AZZ DRE congratulatin him after defeatin da muuuunkee like they did wit ROZAY plus ti would neva go against da grain & diss MARSHALL lol

Who gives a fuck if he sold out. FOH with that shit. Go back in your cave negro
 
HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

Music wise Id say since "King" Ross has made better albums and he's done it without having POP artists like Emenim, Auguleria, & Timberlake on his last three albums to get those crossover sales.

Ross is better at incorporating Soul elements in his music with artists like Erykah Badu, Raphael Saaadiq, & John Legend even if it means the POP audience wont relate to those names.

T.I. seems more comfortable performing with Taylor Swift and signing artists like Iggy Azzelia.

Ross is a better C.E.O who manages to stay out of prison so his artists dont languish like Young Dro, and Ross is more cautious with his circle so that government informants like Alfamega cant infiltrate his label.

When T.I. had Meek Mill he didnt know what to do with him, when Ross got Meek Mill he helped him get to the next level.

 
im 99% sure last year and the year before when MTV's hottest rappers in the game list dropped, people who now cite it as a reason Ross is nice, were saying it was a wack list and MTV doesnt know what theyre talking about. congratulations, hypocrites.
 
There's not an aspect of rap that T.I. isn't better at than Ross. He's better at every category of rapping (lyrics, flow, delivery) and he is also a better artist. Collaborating with artists from other genres doesn't make you a sell-out, niggaz gonna act like that "Dead and Gone" track wasn't nice?
 
riddlerap;4132985 said:
im 99% sure last year and the year before when MTV's hottest rappers in the game list dropped, people who now cite it as a reason Ross is nice, were saying it was a wack list and MTV doesnt know what theyre talking about. congratulations, hypocrites.

Would y'all please stop reaching for that excuse. Ain't nobody in here celebrating that MTV list.

Let me guess

You already prepared your rebuttals for that excuse and now u ready to argue about it....

Ross is hot and your mad because you can't understand why/how that's possible.

Ross understands the codes these hackers can't crack.....
 
H-Rap 180;4132970 said:
HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

Music wise Id say since "King" Ross has made better albums and he's done it without having POP artists like Emenim, Auguleria, & Timberlake on his last three albums to get those crossover sales.

Ross is better at incorporating Soul elements in his music with artists like Erykah Badu, Raphael Saaadiq, & John Legend even if it means the POP audience wont relate to those names.

T.I. seems more comfortable performing with Taylor Swift and signing artists like Iggy Azzelia.

Ross is a better C.E.O who manages to stay out of prison so his artists dont languish like Young Dro, and Ross is more cautious with his circle so that government informants like Alfamega cant infiltrate his label.

When T.I. had Meek Mill he didnt know what to do with him, when Ross got Meek Mill he helped him get to the next level.

Typical of you to start talkin about shit thats irrelevant. Way to go Rap

lol @ incorporating Soul elements FOH nigga. Anytime u wanna talk about aspects of the art of rapping, just let me know.
 
GeE-757;4132855 said:
HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

who said ross was betta? but da thang is tip sold out when he got on a trak wit feminem instead of dissin him like rick ross & when da crackaz pet muuuunkee woodface was talkin shit ti aint do shit while ross stomp;d on da muuuunkeez head & just fa that alone i have mo respect fa rozay.,.,.imean i dont think tip couldve went 2 war wit woodface & come out da victor like ross & have woodfacez cracka slavemassah JIMMY IOVINE & his cross dressin baawse GAY AZZ DRE congratulatin him after defeatin da muuuunkee like they did wit ROZAY plus ti would neva go against da grain & diss MARSHALL lol

GeE-757;4132773 said:
H-Rap 180;4132743 said:
Hes going to tell you that "Teflon Don" was released on July 20 2010 and was certified GOLD on November 10 2010 and that because it took about 3 months to go Gold (112 days) it "struggled" even tho 99% of rappers dont even go GOLD to begin with.

But he wont tell you that "The Recession" was released on September 02 2008 and was certified GOLD on December 10th 2008 and that it took about 3 months to go GOLD (99 days) and "struggle" it did not.....



Thats based on RIAA certifications.


But sales is only one part of the game, some artists have the ability to help the artists around them become more successful so you have to give T.I. credit for making B.O.B a Pop-rap star and Ross for ressurecting Wale's career.

i bet...imean sum1 was just n herr talkin about jeezy goes gold faster then ross which is clearly FALSE smh.....& i dont even c sum1 like freddie fibbz sellin ova 100k mmg & gh has had mo success releasin other solo actz then jeezy has like wit ross & wale & ti & bob but my problem wit ti is hez gettin 2 europeeon fa me imean hez really sellin out wit these pop & white actz but hey if thatz wat he gotta do it is wat it is but he nor jeezy can neva diss rozay cuz ross aint neva sell out & white wash his label & do trakz wit racist crackaz i hope ross dont eva change cuz thatz gonna b a sad day n hiphop if mmg getz WHITE WASH;D i couldnt believe when i was watchin tipz sho on vh-1 his son was sayin he lovez white gurlz & hez WHITE lol smh,.,.
Whats pro-black/anti-sellout about this right here? Seems like he was willing to be "massa's whoopin boy" for crumbs.

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StillDreaming said:
riddlerap;4132985 said:
im 99% sure last year and the year before when MTV's hottest rappers in the game list dropped, people who now cite it as a reason Ross is nice, were saying it was a wack list and MTV doesnt know what theyre talking about. congratulations, hypocrites.

Would y'all please stop reaching for that excuse. Ain't nobody in here celebrating that MTV list.

Let me guess

You already prepared your rebuttals for that excuse and now u ready to argue about it....

Ross is hot and your mad because you can't understand why/how that's possible.

Ross understands the codes these hackers can't crack.....

i read one Gee post in this thread and it mentioned that list.

i personally dont care who is hot, it has no effect on what my ears get to hear.
 
HLF;4133016 said:
H-Rap 180;4132970 said:
HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

HLF;4132808 said:
HLF;4132596 said:
What exactly does Ross do better then TI?

So yall gonna act like u didnt see this. Figures

Music wise Id say since "King" Ross has made better albums and he's done it without having POP artists like Emenim, Auguleria, & Timberlake on his last three albums to get those crossover sales.

Ross is better at incorporating Soul elements in his music with artists like Erykah Badu, Raphael Saaadiq, & John Legend even if it means the POP audience wont relate to those names.

T.I. seems more comfortable performing with Taylor Swift and signing artists like Iggy Azzelia.

Ross is a better C.E.O who manages to stay out of prison so his artists dont languish like Young Dro, and Ross is more cautious with his circle so that government informants like Alfamega cant infiltrate his label.

When T.I. had Meek Mill he didnt know what to do with him, when Ross got Meek Mill he helped him get to the next level.

Typical of you to start talkin about shit thats irrelevant. Way to go Rap

lol @ incorporating Soul elements FOH nigga. Anytime u wanna talk about aspects of the art of rapping, just let me know.

You asked me what he does better and I replied:

1.) Since "King" make better albums

2.) Incorporate more Soul elements than POP

3.) Stay out of prison

4,) Stay Sucka-free

5.) Take artists to the next level

If we are talking HIPHOP music then its only fair to point out the direction that different artists are going with their music...some want to make HipHop HipPOP and others want to maintain its essence.

 
Jeezy sold and he gets much play in ATL and I'm sure the whole southeast.Ross ain't on Jeezy's level, cuz he never did platinum.I was kind of surprised jeezy sold so good.Unless Ross sales more, Ross' buzz may not be as big as it seems
 

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