Lebron vs Kobe in head to head comp

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killap;100266 said:
LOL at the Kobe hate its funny how everytime a Lebron fan says Lebron is the best in the game they cant make an argument w/out degrading Kobe,

lets all remember what happened 4 yrs ago the greatest offensive game any of us have ever witnessed, dont see how u can hate on a mans game when dude is capable of putting up 2K numbers.

Jordans 63 againts a Celtics world championship team in the playoffs > Kobe jacking up shots against a sorry ass no defense Craptors team. You don't get no credit for styling on shitty ass teams.
 
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usmarin3;100344 said:
Jordans 63 againts a Celtics world championship team in the playoffs > Kobe jacking up shots against a sorry ass no defense Craptors team. You don't get no credit for styling on shitty ass teams.

Yea because players score 81 points all the time
 
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LOL @ Lebron about to have 2 league Mvp's at age 25 when kobe got his 1st one at age 30.NUFF Said.Lebron has more triple doubles,Better career stats,Better accomplishments better Everything except teams.Thats it.It's one thing to be a bench player(what kobe was) and another to be the franchise kobe benefited from playing with Horry,shaq,fox,van exel,Eddie Jones,Shaq,Glen Rice.Kobe been in the league 14 years and this kid already passed him in 6 years.Kobe can put up "2k numbers" when that becomes relevant then people might care.I'll take a guy averagin 30 7 and 7 shooting 50% MVP numbers for a season over a cat droppin 81.IF lebron keeps this pace up he will win another Mvp and will be the only player ever to average those numbers besides of Course Mike Jordan.Why has kobe never ever put these numbers up? Why has MJ and lebron But NOT kobe? Once again before kobe stans come with the redundant "Kiss the rings" reply Thats means horace grant and jud buechler can say the same to right? Horace has the same Amount of rings as kobe? So FUCKIN WHAT.
 
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usmarin3;100344 said:
Jordans 63 againts a Celtics world championship team in the playoffs > Kobe jacking up shots against a sorry ass no defense Craptors team. You don't get no credit for styling on shitty ass teams.

Jordan had more 40+ point games in One finals (1993) than kobe ever Had in all his finals combined(both been in 6).Kobe 1st time scoring 40 in the finals was 2009 He has had ONE game ever in the finals where he scored 40.He can score 81 against the sorry ass raptors but in the FINALS Can't do shit his numbers drop.

Mike had 42,44,55,41 in 1993 finals against the suns who had the best record and homecourt.Kobe drops 81 on the raptors LMFAO Kobe fans are stupid as fuck steady mentioning that meaningless stat.I guess they don't know david thompson dropped 73 and david robinson dropped 71 in an nba game.It's just kobe right? FOH
 
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killap;100266 said:
LOL at the Kobe hate its funny how everytime a Lebron fan says Lebron is the best in the game they cant make an argument w/out degrading Kobe,

lets all remember what happened 4 yrs ago the greatest offensive game any of us have ever witnessed, dont see how u can hate on a mans game when dude is capable of putting up 2K numbers.

yea but on the flipside...every kobe fan here tries to label bron as "overrated" and says he hasnt accomplished anything...which is bs

bron plays with confidence...he lets it come naturally, his all around game is nearly flawless, he is very mature as a player for his age

i was shocked to see kobe try so hard to 1-up bron in their last encounter...as if he has something to prove, it's hard to say kobe is better at this point, seems like mentally he isn't sure if hes better himself...

i think a lot of kobe fans are bitter, since they got so much flak for saying he was the next mj (with their only retort being "LOL GET OFF MIKES DICK HURR HURR"), but now a lot of basketball fans feel bron might be the one to reach mike status or even surpass him...i agree though, he has the potential
 
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tommy billfiger..;100403 said:
Jordan had more 40+ point games in One finals (1993) than kobe ever Had in all his finals combined(both been in 6).Kobe 1st time scoring 40 in the finals was 2009 He has had ONE game ever in the finals where he scored 40.He can score 81 against the sorry ass raptors but in the FINALS Can't do shit his numbers drop.

Mike had 42,44,55,41 in 1993 finals against the suns who had the best record and homecourt.Kobe drops 81 on the raptors LMFAO Kobe fans are stupid as fuck steady mentioning that meaningless stat.I guess they don't know david thompson dropped 73 and david robinson dropped 71 in an nba game.It's just kobe right? FOH

and David Robinson wasnt shooting threes
 
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kobe is still better. bron has better stats tho he pads them and hes just the most athletically gifted player in the history of the nba. you gotta remember, those times where kobes shot is off he cant afford to get beat up by driving all the time drawing fouls at this point in his career. dude is 31, he not young like that anymore. shit, he doesnt even get those obvious foul calls sometimes .bron is still youthful and strong enough to finish at the rim more than kobe at this point in his career. doesnt mean bron is better he just really has youth and athleticism on his side more than anything.

bron is a better passer tho. kobe can pass as well but its just a different offense that they run. bron has the ball in his hands more as well from what i see. no need for yall to hate on kobe that much. dont blame the man cause his fans and a lot of sportscasters always compare him to jordan. yall treatin kobe like he compared himself to jordan, ive never seen him make such statements. kobe even said himself hes a different player than jordan on national tv. what more do yall want from dude lol.
 
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yroholla;101390 said:
kobe is still better. bron has better stats tho he pads them and hes just the most athletically gifted player in the history of the nba. you gotta remember, those times where kobes shot is off he cant afford to get beat up by driving all the time drawing fouls at this point in his career. dude is 31, he not young like that anymore. shit, he doesnt even get those obvious foul calls sometimes .bron is still youthful and strong enough to finish at the rim more than kobe at this point in his career. doesnt mean bron is better he just really has youth and athleticism on his side more than anything.

bron is a better passer tho. kobe can pass as well but its just a different offense that they run. bron has the ball in his hands more as well from what i see. no need for yall to hate on kobe that much. dont blame the man cause his fans and a lot of sportscasters always compare him to jordan. yall treatin kobe like he compared himself to jordan, ive never seen him make such statements. kobe even said himself hes a different player than jordan on national tv. what more do yall want from dude lol.

that would be a good argument but even when he was young and athletic he wasnt doing the things Lebron does. He was able to drive and jump over people and still wasnt as efficient.
 
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bless the child;101426 said:
that would be a good argument but even when he was young and athletic he wasnt doing the things Lebron does. He was able to drive and jump over people and still wasnt as efficient.

dawg he came into an already great team.. he didnt have to be...
 
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bless the child;101426 said:
that would be a good argument but even when he was young and athletic he wasnt doing the things Lebron does. He was able to drive and jump over people and still wasnt as efficient.

lol didnt i acknowledge that bron is the most athletically gifted player in the nba of all time? that means kobe at his most athletic still aint near lebrons athleticism. taking nothing away from either player cause what bron can do at that height and weight is amazing. but my point is if you really watch and compare the two, i dont see how one can say bron has more skill. you can argue who is better if you wanna look at stats thats cool.

id say the thing that impresses me the most about bron is that with all the pressure he had to do so well, he obviously exceeded that. but hes not as skilled as kobe. you can even make a case that wade has more skill but it can go either way really.
 
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I'm still having a hard time understanding this lame "More skilled" excuse kobe fans use.It takes SKILL to lead average players to the finals,It takes SKILL to have the most triple doubles since you been in the nba.It takes SKILL to average 30+ Points,7 rebounds and 7 assists a game and shoot 50% from the field in a season.NOBODY in history has ever had these numbers except Mike Jordan.Allllll this so called "skill" kobe has yet duke has nothing to show for it.Kobe ain't hardly this great shooter he's NEVER SHOT 50% Not ONCE EVER.. the closest he ever came was 46% homie ain't even separating himself from his peers.You kobe fans look worse with every reply.Lebron is better athletically,skillwise,defensively,offensively,facilitating,leading,Every aspect in basketball period.A triple double is the most complete statistic in basketball and lebron has 26 of them in 6 years.Even MIKE ONLYHAD 28 TOTAL.Lebron is 2 behind legendary players that's SKILL.Now where is kobe on that list? wheres kobe all around so called "skilled" game? He's a scorer he shoots and he shoots pretty bad percentages most of the time that's not skill.
 
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tommy billfiger..;101689 said:
I'm still having a hard time understanding this lame "More skilled" excuse kobe fans use.It takes SKILL to lead average players to the finals,It takes SKILL to have the most triple doubles since you been in the nba.It takes SKILL to average 30+ Points,7 rebounds and 7 assists a game and shoot 50% from the field in a season.NOBODY in history has ever had these numbers except Mike Jordan.Allllll this so called "skill" kobe has yet duke has nothing to show for it.Kobe ain't hardly this great shooter he's NEVER SHOT 50% Not ONCE EVER.. the closest he ever came was 46% homie ain't even separating himself from his peers.You kobe fans look worse with every reply.Lebron is better athletically,skillwise,defensively,offensively,facilitating,leading,Every aspect in basketball period.A triple double is the most complete statistic in basketball and lebron has 26 of them in 6 years.Even MIKE ONLYHAD 28 TOTAL.Lebron is 2 behind legendary players that's SKILL.Now where is kobe on that list? wheres kobe all around so called "skilled" game? He's a scorer he shoots and he shoots pretty bad percentages most of the time that's not skill.

lol i take it that you dont like kobe very much.... im actually a fan of both bron and kobe. i just call it how i see it. and if you dont see how one can say kobe has more skill than bron then you must be a serious bron stan. no disrespect tho. we've heard several players and coaches who ACTUALLY played against and with kobe say hes the best. even some hall of famers talk about how nice kobe is so i wont even entertain your argument as to what "skill" is. thats not to say your opinion doesnt count but its clearly biased cause you aint say one good thing about kobe or given him props in any way. based off the way you talkin, it sounds like you wouldnt even put him in the hof lol.

clearly bron has skills no denying that, just not as much as kobe. common sense tells you that the more you actually SHOOT, your accuracy goes down a bit. kobe chooses to shoot more than drive. bron is the opposite. that should explain the difference in fg%. kobe does take bad shots. ill give you that. but everybody knows that. yet and still hes always still considered the most feared opponent on all them polls on nba.com by coaches, gms and players. that kinda shows that going just off stats really dont always tell the whole story.
 
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yroholla;101773 said:
lol i take it that you dont like kobe very much.... im actually a fan of both bron and kobe. i just call it how i see it. and if you dont see how one can say kobe has more skill than bron then you must be a serious bron stan. no disrespect tho. we've heard several players and coaches who ACTUALLY played against and with kobe say hes the best. even some hall of famers talk about how nice kobe is so i wont even entertain your argument as to what "skill" is. thats not to say your opinion doesnt count but its clearly biased cause you aint say one good thing about kobe or given him props in any way. based off the way you talkin, it sounds like you wouldnt even put him in the hof lol.

clearly bron has skills no denying that, just not as much as kobe. common sense tells you that the more you actually SHOOT, your accuracy goes down a bit. kobe chooses to shoot more than drive. bron is the opposite. that should explain the difference in fg%. kobe does take bad shots. ill give you that. but everybody knows that. yet and still hes always still considered the most feared opponent on all them polls on nba.com by coaches, gms and players. that kinda shows that going just off stats really dont always tell the whole story.

Not only did you avoid the question but you rambled for 2 paragraphs saying Nothin.The more you shoot the more your percentages drop huh? So why did jordan have 6 seasons shooting 50%+(While being Doubled or tripled) including shooting 54% TWICE.So that nullifies THAT wack response.I couldn't care less about polls and opinions.That is not gonna change what I think.They are entitled to their opinions just like I'm entitled to mine and I made several key points that show exactly why lebron is a bette player than kobe.

Mike had 6 seasons of shooting 50% or higher and these were back in the days when he HAD NO HELP.No scottie nobody and STILL RACKED 53%.WRONG AGAIN.He also had Way more attempts than kobe 1800+,1900+ Fga's and STILL WAS HITTIN 52,54%.Another cop out excuse that makes NO sense.
 
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tommy billfiger..;101814 said:
Not only did you avoid the question but you rambled for 2 paragraphs saying Nothin.The more you shoot the more your percentages drop huh? So why did jordan have 6 seasons shooting 50%+(While being Doubled or tripled) including shooting 54% TWICE.So that nullifies THAT wack response.I couldn't care less about polls and opinions.That is not gonna change what I think.They are entitled to their opinions just like I'm entitled to mine and I made several key points that show exactly why lebron is a bette player than kobe.

Mike had 6 seasons of shooting 50% or higher and these were back in the days when he HAD NO HELP.No scottie nobody and STILL RACKED 53%.WRONG AGAIN.He also had Way more attempts than kobe 1800+,1900+ Fga's and STILL WAS HITTIN 52,54%.Another cop out excuse that makes NO sense.

lol notice you can only compare kobe to jordan when talking down on him. goes to show how nice he really is even when you tryin your hardest to shit on him. relax homie your still only comparing him to the greatest of all time. kobe said himself on national tv hes different from jordan and even said jordans the goat in the following sentence. pay attention.

either way your avoiding what im saying with all this rambling. since youre such a stat expert, how bout you explain that stat about kobe being the most feared on those polls if hes such a "bad shooter". its not really about how many shots you miss all the time dog, its about hitting them at the right moments to kill your opponents confidence.

jordan was the best ever at that. kobes the best now. he also showed hes willing to play within a system if he trusts his teammates as evidenced by winning the chip last year. im not even tryna big kobe up that much really, wades my fav player i think hes the best when he not fuckin around actually, but just had to shut that down real quick
 
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Im done with words.. Goto the video tape.. Kobe been in this league for 14 years. and is playing like hes 25.. youd be hardpressed to find many people that can and will do that.. Just goto www.youtube.com and your evidence is there.. Stats dont tell the whole story.. rings are rings.. but the video is irrefutable.

Its not about how many you make .. how many you take,,. its seizing opportunities.. and coming through when it matters most in all facets of the game. Its about Results. I could care less if kobe shots 24% because he gets it done..
 
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rofl @ dese pro kobe arguments, yall niggas sound like yall talk sports just to fit in...8 outta 10 kobe makin the shot??? really nigga??? really???
 
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;101995 said:
rofl @ dese pro kobe arguments, yall niggas sound like yall talk sports just to fit in...8 outta 10 kobe makin the shot??? really nigga??? really???

That's what I'm saying.Or the polls "Nba gm's think kobe is better or retired players say kobe is the most feared" GTFOH Lebron has better EVERY FUCKIN THING Yet they resort to opinions instead of facts.Thats why Im thru I made key points with no responses.Shits a wrap.
 
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tommy billfiger..;102021 said:
That's what I'm saying.Or the polls "Nba gm's think kobe is better or retired players say kobe is the most feared" GTFOH Lebron has better EVERY FUCKIN THING Yet they resort to opinions instead of facts.Thats why Im thru I made key points with no responses.Shits a wrap.

id rather the fact that these players played with him and say hes the best.lol yeah you got facts but your facts still dont tell the whole story. stats are great but watching the game is a totally different thing. like you read bron got 34 10 and 10. on paper great. but when you watch it, you notice how he stays in the game even though his team is clearly in the lead to pad the stats. or how he sometimes jumps over his teammates head to get a board with no opposing players around him lol shit like that.

again its not hate but dont avoid what you see. bron is def top 3 arguably the best like i said before but be real. if you watch the games you know what im talkin about. i know im not the only one that sees it.
 
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tommy billfiger..;102021 said:
That's what I'm saying.Or the polls "Nba gm's think kobe is better or retired players say kobe is the most feared" GTFOH Lebron has better EVERY FUCKIN THING Yet they resort to opinions instead of facts.Thats why Im thru I made key points with no responses.Shits a wrap.

It's an opinion that Bron is better than Kobe. Just like it's my opinion that your mother should have aborted your dumb ass
 
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