Ladies, do you find that hip hop and rnb are getting more disrespectful?

[ChillaDaGawd]

Are we talking hip hop or r&b?

 

[Brother_Five]

Are we talking hip hop or r&b?

This just another black ppl r bad thread...

Jazz is the devil

 

[A Talented One]

Are we talking hip hop or r&b?

This just another black ppl r bad thread...

Jazz is the devil

No, it's not, you confused negro.

The music has without question gotten more crude and explicit.

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

Any woman who feels disrespected and/or offended by hip hop is weak-minded. I say this for three reasons.

1. No artist has ever referred to ALL women by pejorative terms (hoe, slut, bitch, etc.). Therefore it's safe to assume that those terms are used to refer to females that fit those characteristics. Such terms, if not applicable, shouldn't offend.

2. Hip Hop nor the artists thereof necessarily make music for women. In fact, it's a male-dominated genre that speaks to a male audience from a male perspective. Some argue that that's misogynistic, however, how many songs and genres of music have been dedicated to women? Even hip hop songs have been dedicated to uplift women at times.

3. Women, like male fans of hip hop, choose to consume this brand of alleged "mainstream hip hop" and, therefore, are to blame for it's popularity. Many hip hop artists don't make songs denigrating women of any class, but they don't get supported. Some hip hop artists can make singles that don't mention women at all, and they are ignored by many.

If you disagree, fine. What you should do is write radio and music industry executives and tell them to change the content of the music they play and manufacture. See what their responses are.

Weak?

So in defense of the misogny present in mainstream hip-hop, you dismiss or belittle women for taking offense...Word? Lol. That's pretty sexist of you

As for the other points you made. ..

1. I think for many, it’s not that words like "bitch" or "hoe" are necessarily the problem, but the power behind these words....Traditionally these terms have been used to demean women, and emasculate men.

So naturally when a woman hears the words bitch or hoe, especially out the mouth of a man, it can serve as a reminder that as an opinionated womn or a sexual woman or a woman who is not interested in appeasing men you are not going to be as socially accepted as your male counterparts. You are a bad person.

Obviously thats not good. We than have to ask what message does that convey to a young impressionable boy or girl

Than since women are not inherently “bitches" another problem with its usage is that we can never differentiate properly on who “deserves” the title and who does not

2. Artist make music with a certain audience in mind, not sure how the discounts my feelings as a woman hearing something many would consider misogynistic. We don't live in a bubble. Than there's the misogny in RnB

3. Yes we all share some accountability. The artist, the labels, record execs and the consumer.

With that said, I grew up on hip hop. But the older I get the less mainstream music including hip hop appeals to me.

I can barely stomach watching some rap videos

Which rap videos u hate?

 

[Brother_Five]

There is a whole Christian rap genre...

Go bump some Lecrae if u so offended by adult language...

Or Kidz Bop...

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Lecrae is dope

 

[ChillaDaGawd]

Are we talking hip hop or r&b?

This just another black ppl r bad thread...

Jazz is the devil

No, it not, you confused negro.

The must has without question gotten more crude and explicit.

what year did this song come out T/S???

how bout this one...



music sure has gotten crude

 

[ChillaDaGawd]

music sure has gotten tasteless why can't they be like this forgotten classic

 

[Brother_Five]

Or instrumentals...

 

[A Talented One]

ChillaDaKilla, you're a fucking idiot. Not gonna waste my time with you.

 

[Copper]

Movies and television are just as bad (if not worse) violent, misogynistic and crass...there just half hour/2 hour versions of rap/ rock videos....yet don't get called out half as much as rap music.

I'm more offended by depictions of white people as African gods than grown men/women cursing in a 3 minute song

 

[desertrain10]

Any woman who feels disrespected and/or offended by hip hop is weak-minded. I say this for three reasons.

1. No artist has ever referred to ALL women by pejorative terms (hoe, slut, bitch, etc.). Therefore it's safe to assume that those terms are used to refer to females that fit those characteristics. Such terms, if not applicable, shouldn't offend.

2. Hip Hop nor the artists thereof necessarily make music for women. In fact, it's a male-dominated genre that speaks to a male audience from a male perspective. Some argue that that's misogynistic, however, how many songs and genres of music have been dedicated to women? Even hip hop songs have been dedicated to uplift women at times.

3. Women, like male fans of hip hop, choose to consume this brand of alleged "mainstream hip hop" and, therefore, are to blame for it's popularity. Many hip hop artists don't make songs denigrating women of any class, but they don't get supported. Some hip hop artists can make singles that don't mention women at all, and they are ignored by many.

If you disagree, fine. What you should do is write radio and music industry executives and tell them to change the content of the music they play and manufacture. See what their responses are.

Weak?

So in defense of the misogny present in mainstream hip-hop, you dismiss or belittle women for taking offense...Word? Lol. That's pretty sexist of you

As for the other points you made. ..

1. I think for many, it’s not that words like "bitch" or "hoe" are necessarily the problem, but the power behind these words....Traditionally these terms have been used to demean women, and emasculate men.

So naturally when a woman hears the words bitch or hoe, especially out the mouth of a man, it can serve as a reminder that as an opinionated womn or a sexual woman or a woman who is not interested in appeasing men you are not going to be as socially accepted as your male counterparts. You are a bad person.

Obviously thats not good. We than have to ask what message does that convey to a young impressionable boy or girl

Than since women are not inherently “bitches" another problem with its usage is that we can never differentiate properly on who “deserves” the title and who does not

2. Artist make music with a certain audience in mind, not sure how the discounts my feelings as a woman hearing something many would consider misogynistic. We don't live in a bubble. Than there's the misogny in RnB

3. Yes we all share some accountability. The artist, the labels, record execs and the consumer.

With that said, I grew up on hip hop. But the older I get the less mainstream music including hip hop appeals to me.

I can barely stomach watching some rap videos

Which rap videos u hate?

Key word being some...

But videos of this nature...

 

[Ounceman]

I hear you. music is so filthy these days. I wish we can take it back to the good ol' times when it was more wholesome

 

[desertrain10]

Lets acknowledge though that the misogntic, hyper sexual, violent, content of mainstream hip hop and RnB music is a legacy of AMERICAN culture

Hip hop culture or black culture does not exist in a parallel universe completely unrelated to and disconnected from American culture as a whole

I have a problem with it all

 

[Copper]

Any woman who feels disrespected and/or offended by hip hop is weak-minded. I say this for three reasons.

1. No artist has ever referred to ALL women by pejorative terms (hoe, slut, bitch, etc.). Therefore it's safe to assume that those terms are used to refer to females that fit those characteristics. Such terms, if not applicable, shouldn't offend.

2. Hip Hop nor the artists thereof necessarily make music for women. In fact, it's a male-dominated genre that speaks to a male audience from a male perspective. Some argue that that's misogynistic, however, how many songs and genres of music have been dedicated to women? Even hip hop songs have been dedicated to uplift women at times.

3. Women, like male fans of hip hop, choose to consume this brand of alleged "mainstream hip hop" and, therefore, are to blame for it's popularity. Many hip hop artists don't make songs denigrating women of any class, but they don't get supported. Some hip hop artists can make singles that don't mention women at all, and they are ignored by many.

If you disagree, fine. What you should do is write radio and music industry executives and tell them to change the content of the music they play and manufacture. See what their responses are.

Weak?

So in defense of the misogny present in mainstream hip-hop, you dismiss or belittle women for taking offense...Word? Lol. That's pretty sexist of you

As for the other points you made. ..

1. I think for many, it’s not that words like "bitch" or "hoe" are necessarily the problem, but the power behind these words....Traditionally these terms have been used to demean women, and emasculate men.

So naturally when a woman hears the words bitch or hoe, especially out the mouth of a man, it can serve as a reminder that as an opinionated womn or a sexual woman or a woman who is not interested in appeasing men you are not going to be as socially accepted as your male counterparts. You are a bad person.

Obviously thats not good. We than have to ask what message does that convey to a young impressionable boy or girl

Than since women are not inherently “bitches" another problem with its usage is that we can never differentiate properly on who “deserves” the title and who does not

2. Artist make music with a certain audience in mind, not sure how the discounts my feelings as a woman hearing something many would consider misogynistic. We don't live in a bubble. Than there's the misogny in RnB

3. Yes we all share some accountability. The artist, the labels, record execs and the consumer.

With that said, I grew up on hip hop. But the older I get the less mainstream music including hip hop appeals to me.

I can barely stomach watching some rap videos

Which rap videos u hate?

Key word being some...

But videos of this nature...

You ain't feeling that shit?

I jus want da money...

Money...

Money...

Money.....

 

[jetlifebih]

I agree that video was some fuck shit, but my mans red cafe be spittin

 

[Stiff]

I hear you. music is so filthy these days. I wish we can take it back to the good ol' times when it was more wholesome

lmaaaaooooo

did they say "we gonna trim them hoes in a rockin chair"?

ohhh shit

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Red cafe? Lololololololololololololololololilololololololololol no sion

 

[KingFreeman]

That bryson tiller trapsoul held a nigga down when my girl dipped no lie.

 

[KingFreeman]

RNS b.