Kobe to Lebron: "Imma F*ckin Champ"

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ptowndonte;1803034 said:
Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that Kobe & Shaq was built from scratch. Jordan & Pippen was built from scratch. They built a dynasty, no sidekick role, just because Shaq and Jordan look better than Kobe and Pip on paper doesn't mean that during those games it wasn't Kobe & Shaq, and Michael & Scottie. Lebron is Wade's sidekick, and will be his sidekick for as long as they are playing together.

lol go back to the reason bruh
 
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usmarin3;1803065 said:
Negro please, Shaq had been in the league for 4 years longer than Kobe, brought a team to the NBA Finals and managed to lose to a Hakeem in his prime. You acting like Shaq was on some rookie shit, or Phil Jackson was just some inexperienced coach. Shaq expidited Kobe's winning process, Kobe never had the burden to build a franchise from Scratch like MJ or Lebron did. Shaq and Kobe was never at the same level dominance wise or talent wise during their run, plain and fucking simple, don't try to change history now about no co-leader shit.

LOL at Wades sidekick, based on what, can't be from watching this season!

Once again, Shaq didn't take Orlando to the finals by himself
Without Kobe, LA wouldn't have won any of those championships. Face the facts
And like I said, Shaq has never been to the finals without a top guard
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copperkid27;1803072 said:
every great champion played with another great...and prove that I said this

then the same can be said for magic's early years when he played with jabar or duncans early years when he played with david b/c they werent the best on thier teams then....

We are talking about Lebron and Kobe, why are you changing the subject? See what i'm talking about consistency, you want to make excuses for Kobe when he was in the sidekick role and throw in historical shit and then shit on Lebron calling him a sidekick.
 
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BackInWhite;1803091 said:
who's team was it?

eddie jones?

nick van exel?

they were there before kobe and started when he came off the bench so they were moreso there team than kobe's in 96
 
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copperkid27;1803095 said:
arguing opinions with self admitted stans is a never ending battle...

ok then
fuck it
it wasn't kobe's team
you niggas still ain't gon hit me with that "built from scratch" shit
 
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ptowndonte;1803097 said:
Once again, Shaq didn't take Orlando to the finals by himself
Without Kobe, LA wouldn't have won any of those championships. Face the facts
And like I said, Shaq has never been to the finals without a top guard
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Shaq was the best player on his teams, his 3 finals mvp and 1 regular season mvp says so. What grounds do you have to say Kobe was the co-leader or best player on his team, not one god damn drop of evidence.
 
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ptowndonte;1803097 said:
Once again, Shaq didn't take Orlando to the finals by himself

Without Kobe, LA wouldn't have won any of those championships. Face the facts

And like I said, Shaq has never been to the finals without a top guard

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and kobe has never been to the finals without a legit big man
 
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usmarin3;1803099 said:
We are talking about Lebron and Kobe, why are you changing the subject? See what i'm talking about consistency, you want to make excuses for Kobe when he was in the sidekick role and throw in historical shit and then shit on Lebron calling him a sidekick.

u arguing the sidekick role and I brought u 2 plane examples of sidekicks wich are very relevant stop avoiding the facts.....and I never called bron a sidekick b...stop lying to the people
 
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MR.CJ;1803109 said:
and kobe has never been to the finals without a legit big man

that's what a nigga is tryna stress
niggas act like when he ain't have a big man he wasn't demanding trades and shit
questioning the front office and shit
 
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This is Shaq and Kobe's relationship when it comes to their legacy

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Kobe was a Pilot fish!!!!!!!!
 
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Robert TOWNsend;1803092 said:
Dumb argument BOY, a sidekick can average more than the star. Byron scott averaged more than magic, was byron the star and magic the sidekick now?

Wow, you're a bigger clown than your screenname. Nigga averaged more points than Magic IN ONE SEASON OUT OF TEN SEASONS. STOP IT. FOH.

Y'all niggas are hilarious.
 
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greenwood1921;1803126 said:
Wow, you're a bigger clown than your screenname. Nigga averaged more points than Magic IN ONE SEASON OUT OF TEN SEASONS. STOP IT. FOH.

Y'all niggas are hilarious.

Isn't this one season with lebron and wade or am i mistaken?
 
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Kobe and Shaq reg. Season stats during championship years....

2000-2001 Regular Season Kobe 28.5 points 5.9 rebounds 5 assists 85% ft's 46.5% fg 
Shaq 28.7 points 12.1 rebounds 3 assists 51% ft's 57% fg

2001-2002 Regular Season Kobe 25.2 points 5.5 assists 5.5 rebounds 47% fg 83% ft worse than the year before 
Shaq 27.2 3.0 assists, 10.7 rebounds 58% fg, 55% ft

them aint sidekick stats b^^^^
 
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BackInWhite;1803115 said:
that's what a nigga is tryna stress
niggas act like when he ain't have a big man he wasn't demanding trades and shit
questioning the front office and shit

Name the players who won championships without a second star.
 
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usmarin3;1803107 said:
Shaq was the best player on his teams, his 3 finals mvp and 1 regular season mvp says so. What grounds do you have to say Kobe was the co-leader or best player on his team, not one god damn drop of evidence.

Averaging 22, 29, & 25 ppg for the regular season, and 21, 30, & 27 ppg in the playoffs during their championship runs is not co-leader?
 
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Robert TOWNsend;1803132 said:
Isn't this one season with lebron and wade or am i mistaken?

First season. And Magic averaged more than Byron in their first season 2gether. A trend that only changed ONCE in a decade. Give it up dude. You're a clown.
 
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