Kobe to Lebron: "Imma F*ckin Champ"

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ReppinTime;1802871 said:
1. Sidekicks dont win games and series while you sit on the bench for the 4th qtrs.

2. Jordan never won without Pippen. Jordan's playoff record without Pippen is 1-11. and Pau is not a fuckin dominant big man shut the fuck up. Nobody ever said that shit till he got with Kobe. and the year Pau came to the lakers the lakers already were the favorites to get the number one seed off Kobe/Bynum killing the league.

3. Kobe was playing in the most competitive Western Conference EVER and took a team that STARTED Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Luke Walton to the playoffs. Lebron took the cavs in the weak ass east and got swept when he faced a western team.

4. Kobe is the player of the decade and its not debatable anymore. Stop stanning. Duncan always had a squad of all star level talent during their runs.

5. This is a stupid post. Jordan had Phil in his prime, your point? Phil hasnt done any actual coaching in a game in at least 3 years. Nigga sits on the bench and occasionally falls asleep.

6. This is stupid as fuck and bullshit. Kobe has played in a league with superior talent and athletes than Jordan's era. Kobe was the face of the league till the rape trial, that fallout is the only time other niggas got spotlight over him and that didn't last.

7. You stay fucking stanning you Jayz camel loving faggot.

OK, the same sidekick who shot the Lakers out the games in the 04 finals against the Pistons. What did Kobe do in that series, shoot 38 percent while Shaq was shooting 63 percent, but still hogged the ball. You can say wtf you want dude, but Shaq has 3 finals mvp from that 3pete, not KOB(I).

LOL Jordan record being 1-11 huh, i guess we are gonna act like those early Bulls team didn't have Phil Jackson, Grant,etc. Why are you comparing a 1995 Bulls team who had just come off winning 3 titles to MJ's early Bulls team who was building. smh

LOL at Pau not being a dominant big man now, dude was a fucking All Star player nigga, you mfs are doing the same shit you did with Shaq, degrading Pau accomplishments to make Kobe look better. If yall tell it, Pau and Shaq were Luc Longley and Bill Wennington in yall's eyes. lmfao

Lebron took a bunch of bums to the NBA finals, Kobe just quit on his team against the Suns. Plain and simple, the mf never won shit without another all star!

How is he player of the decade, Duncan had 2 league mvps compared to Kobes 1, Duncan has 3 finals mvp and Kobe has 2, Duncan has been the best player on 4 NBA championship and Kobe has been on 2 NBA champs. I would much rather have Pau, Odom, and Fisher over Manu, Parker,etc.

Jordans era included (Ewing, Thomas,Magic, Bird,Shaq,Kobe,Hardaway,Mourning,Drexler,Isiah,Dumars, Hakeem,Mutumbo,Richmond, Miller,Worthy,Mchale,Parish,Domonique,Barkley,Stockton,Malone,etc). DUde, do you really wan't to have this serious debate out Jordan's

era?


Who is Kobe's peer, TMac and Vince Carter? smh

Look at the 50 Greatest player list, and look at how many of them MJ stopped from getting rings.

LOL at having Phil in his prime, Phil first job in the NBA was with the Bulls dumbass. You act like he had prior experience.
 
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ReppinTime;1802974 said:
Shaq could have been >>>>>>everybody

if he wasnt so lazy but so what.

The point is nobody made Pippen or came close to making him, the nigga was a star and his record minus Jordan is more impressive than Jordan's record minus him. Fact.

I agree somewhat but the perception is there, and where there is smoke there is fire. We can definitely without doubt say Kobe did not make Shaq. It can be argued that plug Lebron or Wade or Iverson, or Clyde(one time for those who think Clyde is often left out) and you have probably 4 rings, at least 3. What cant be argued is that you cant take Shaq out the equation, who do you plug in? Timmy D? Maybe.
 
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ptowndonte;1802982 said:
Shaq went to the finals in '95, with Hardaway

It's so funny how hypocritcal you niggas are, you play the sidekick shit when it comes to Lebron, but when niggas flip it on Kobe you want to bring out the Laker shield.
 
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usmarin3;1803010 said:
It's so funny how hypocritcal you niggas are, you play the sidekick shit when it comes to Lebron, but when niggas flip it on Kobe you want to bring out the Laker shield.

How so?... Please elaborate
 
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ptowndonte;1803016 said:
How so?... Please elaborate

The same niggas yelling Scottie Pippen to Lebron or saying he can't do it by himself, are the same mfs overlooking Kobe sidekick role with Shaq or the fact he has never won without another all star player. Be consistent!

I'm more than certain Lebron would have the same amount, if not more rings than Kobe if he would of been on those Lakers teams. We've seen what Kobe can't do with mediocre talent around him and we've seen what Lebron can do.
 
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usmarin3;1803022 said:
The same niggas yelling Scottie Pippen to Lebron or saying he can't do it by himself, are the same mfs overlooking Kobe sidekick role with Shaq or the fact he has never won without another all star player. Be consistent!

I'm more than certain Lebron would have the same amount, if not more rings than Kobe if he would of been on those Lakers teams. We've seen what Kobe can't do with mediocre talent around him and we've seen what Lebron can do.

Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that Kobe & Shaq was built from scratch. Jordan & Pippen was built from scratch. They built a dynasty, no sidekick role, just because Shaq and Jordan look better than Kobe and Pip on paper doesn't mean that during those games it wasn't Kobe & Shaq, and Michael & Scottie. Lebron is Wade's sidekick, and will be his sidekick for as long as they are playing together.
 
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ptowndonte;1803034 said:
Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that Kobe & Shaq was built from scratch. Jordan & Pippen was built from scratch. They built a dynasty, no sidekick role, just because Shaq and Jordan look better than Kobe and Pip on paper doesn't mean that during those games it wasn't Kobe & Shaq, and Michael & Scottie. Lebron is Wade's sidekick, and will be his sidekick for as long as they are playing together.

You Cant Talk To Him. He Ignorant
 
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ptowndonte;1803034 said:
Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that Kobe & Shaq was built from scratch. Jordan & Pippen was built from scratch. They built a dynasty, no sidekick role, just because Shaq and Jordan look better than Kobe and Pip on paper doesn't mean that during those games it wasn't Kobe & Shaq, and Michael & Scottie. Lebron is Wade's sidekick, and will be his sidekick for as long as they are playing together.

Nobody who's watched the season so far this year (without being bias) can say Lebron is Wade's sidekick. Let's be real here. Hell, Wade is having one of his worst and most inconsistent seasons so far while Lebron is still in MVP form.

Please, let's stop the insanity. Or should I say "InSTAN-ity". smh
 
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greenwood1921;1803056 said:
Nobody who's watched the season so far this year (without being bias) can say Lebron is Wade's sidekick. Let's be real here. Hell, Wade is having one of his worst and most inconsistent seasons so far while Lebron is still in MVP form.

Please, let's stop the insanity. Or should I say "InSTAN-ity". smh

I'm a die hard Iverson fan...not Kobe
 
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ptowndonte;1803034 said:
Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that Kobe & Shaq was built from scratch. Jordan & Pippen was built from scratch. They built a dynasty, no sidekick role, just because Shaq and Jordan look better than Kobe and Pip on paper doesn't mean that during those games it wasn't Kobe & Shaq, and Michael & Scottie. Lebron is Wade's sidekick, and will be his sidekick for as long as they are playing together.

what the fuck you mean built from scratch?
shaq had already been to the finals and was already getting called the most dominant big man in nba history
when he came to KOBE'S TEAM and took clean the fuck over
you sound dumb as hell
so in that blowout yesterday it wasn't lebron and wade?
wade had the triple double?
and even if i do subscribe to your built from scratch bullshit does that stop pippen from being jordan's sidekick?
jordan's statue is outside
scottie's is gon be inside
shaq has 3 nba finals mvp's
you stay sayin some dumb shit, brohamburger
 
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ptowndonte;1803034 said:
Why is it so hard for you to grasp the fact that Kobe & Shaq was built from scratch. Jordan & Pippen was built from scratch. They built a dynasty, no sidekick role, just because Shaq and Jordan look better than Kobe and Pip on paper doesn't mean that during those games it wasn't Kobe & Shaq, and Michael & Scottie. Lebron is Wade's sidekick, and will be his sidekick for as long as they are playing together.

Negro please, Shaq had been in the league for 4 years longer than Kobe, brought a team to the NBA Finals and managed to lose to a Hakeem in his prime. You acting like Shaq was on some rookie shit, or Phil Jackson was just some inexperienced coach. Shaq expidited Kobe's winning process, Kobe never had the burden to build a franchise from Scratch like MJ or Lebron did. Shaq and Kobe was never at the same level dominance wise or talent wise during their run, plain and fucking simple, don't try to change history now about no co-leader shit.

LOL at Wades sidekick, based on what, can't be from watching this season!
 
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Truth Writer;1802937 said:
Y'all hypocritical nigs been saying this for YEARS. Especially when I had the "Jordan vs. Kareem for GOAT" debate.

One or the other. It can't be both.

every great champion played with another great...and prove that I said this

usmarin3;1802943 said:
Nope, but it definitely enhances it when they are better than you.

then the same can be said for magic's early years when he played with jabar or duncans early years when he played with david b/c they werent the best on thier teams then....
 
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BackInWhite;1803063 said:
what the fuck you mean built from scratch?
shaq had already been to the finals and was already getting called the most dominant big man in nba history
when he came to KOBE'S TEAM and took clean the fuck over
you sound dumb as hell
so in that blowout yesterday it wasn't lebron and wade?
wade had the triple double?
and even if i do subscribe to your built from scratch bullshit does that stop pippen from being jordan's sidekick?
jordan's statue is outside
scottie's is gon be inside
shaq has 3 nba finals mvp's
you stay sayin some dumb shit, brohamburger

How was it Kobe's team when they got there the same year?
 
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BackInWhite;1803063 said:
what the fuck you mean built from scratch?

shaq had already been to the finals and was already getting called the most dominant big man in nba history

when he came to KOBE'S TEAM and took clean the fuck over

you sound dumb as hell

so in that blowout yesterday it wasn't lebron and wade?

wade had the triple double?

and even if i do subscribe to your built from scratch bullshit does that stop pippen from being jordan's sidekick?

jordan's statue is outside

scottie's is gon be inside

shaq has 3 nba finals mvp's

you stay sayin some dumb shit, brohamburger

lakers were not kobes team
 
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ptowndonte;1803073 said:
How was it Kobe's team when they got there the same year?

he was receiving the same hype lebron did when he was drafted
youngest player to do this
youngest player to do that
it was his team, b
 
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greenwood1921;1803076 said:
Could've fooled me. A "sidekick" that averages more points than the "star". C'mon, son.

Dumb argument BOY, a sidekick can average more than the star. Byron scott averaged more than magic, was byron the star and magic the sidekick now?
 
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