Kid Cudi puts Kanye and Drake in the same box in twitter rant (Kanye Responds "Cudi I Birthed You")

[StoneColdMikey]

808 HB was 8yrs ago, nigga's gotta let that go

However I'd rather hear a Ye/Cudi album vs a Ye/Drake album

Shit would be so flames

 

[sr_the_freshman]

U mean the same plain Pat who was already working with ye b4 cudi?

Has nothing to do with the sound of those So Far Gone cuts sounding like Cudi's shit.

I'm just seeing if it's possible ye influenced cudi instead of the other way around like y'all are saying, I mean pats work with ye came b4 cudi just like cudi shit came (or was released at least) b4 so far gone

Pat and Cudi started a label together; they had a relationship prior to that.

And Pat worked with Kanye prior to A Kid Named Cudi, yes, but on one project, which was a mixtape, but he was not credited with making any beats as he did on A Kid Named Cudi. He simply mixed the project.

 

[Shizlansky]

Rant about ghost writing #110,067,997 either play the industry game or do you and be underground. He only mad because the shit he has wrote for others has out performed his own material. You can find a thousand interviews where Jadakiss says his biggest regrets were not writing more for Diddy.

You would think these guys would stop writing for people if they're so mad about it. Guess they're thinking about that check right quick.

Pretty much...niggas complain about ghostwriters while ghost writing songs still...if you hate it so much why do it?

That's why other rappers don't come out against because they have wrote for ppl.

Can't talk shit about ghost writing is a problem and bad for the "culture" if you was/is part of the problem.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

U mean the same plain Pat who was already working with ye b4 cudi?

Has nothing to do with the sound of those So Far Gone cuts sounding like Cudi's shit.

I'm just seeing if it's possible ye influenced cudi instead of the other way around like y'all are saying, I mean pats work with ye came b4 cudi just like cudi shit came (or was released at least) b4 so far gone

Pat and Cudi started a label together; they had a relationship prior to that.

And Pat worked with Kanye prior to A Kid Named Cudi, yes, but on one project, which was a mixtape, but he was not credited with making any beats as he did on A Kid Named Cudi. He simply mixed the project.

He also is credited for production on graduation but perhaps ur right on the rest

 

[blackrain]

How do you know they're non factors if they've never revealed who they've written for? I already said when Kiss has talked about ghost writing he said he's done it for more people than just Diddy. I'm not moving the goal post you're just not getting that this revolution you think is happening and the fact that one of the most popular rappers in the game at the moment has used ghost writers is something new when for decades now rappers have been doing interviews saying that popular rappers in the past have used ghost writers. Being that it's never been exposed to this level before even though it's always been actively frowned upon the fact that nobody has been exposed on this level before means that yes, it was getting a "pass" because no ghost writer wanted to fuck up their money and out who they were writing for.

How do you know they are? There is more credence to think that they weren't because of the shit I just mentioned.

I'm not acting on assumptions. I'm acting on what information we have, and the status quo of past times.

You are acting on an assumption.

Once again, @ bolded who? This time your implying that said acts were popular. No names? No debate.

Edit: Also, Your failing to realize that niggas who are considered top 5 outside of the late BIG and Pac are still popular today. So yes, if an exposure was going to happen, we've had years to see it done. All the niggas I named have been hot for years.

If you keep saying no names, no debate then you are pretty much saying that rappers like Kiss, Sigel, Jay, etc who've openly said they've ghost written songs are lying then because they've given no names about who they've written for. No rapper has ever come out and blatantly said who they've written for, as you said before nobody counts Dre or Puffy, so using your logic they're just lying about being ghost writers.

Willful ignorance. No. That is not what I'm saying.

Stop reaching. I am saying that, with no names provided, there can be no argument about the caliber of MC they are allegedly ghostwriting for. And unless they are writing for the the type of niggas I listed, then it doesn't matter nearly as much as a Drake / Kanye situation. And if they indeed were writing for the type of niggas I listed, there would have been some kind of leak by now as has been openly shared within Kanye's camp, or exposure style like Drake. All top 5 candidates are alive and well in this social media age, save for 2 or 3 God rest their soul. That is the bottom line.

You have literally nothing to argue with dawg. You out here lookin like this.

Nah...my whole point from jump was you for some reason seem to take Drake having his ghost writers outed as some sort of flag ship moment in hip-hop when it's really not. You talking about revolutions and niggas finally being "tired of ghost writers" when if they were as tired of them as you claim then niggas would;ve been outed who they have written for.

 

[sr_the_freshman]

How do you know they're non factors if they've never revealed who they've written for? I already said when Kiss has talked about ghost writing he said he's done it for more people than just Diddy. I'm not moving the goal post you're just not getting that this revolution you think is happening and the fact that one of the most popular rappers in the game at the moment has used ghost writers is something new when for decades now rappers have been doing interviews saying that popular rappers in the past have used ghost writers. Being that it's never been exposed to this level before even though it's always been actively frowned upon the fact that nobody has been exposed on this level before means that yes, it was getting a "pass" because no ghost writer wanted to fuck up their money and out who they were writing for.

How do you know they are? There is more credence to think that they weren't because of the shit I just mentioned.

I'm not acting on assumptions. I'm acting on what information we have, and the status quo of past times.

You are acting on an assumption.

Once again, @ bolded who? This time your implying that said acts were popular. No names? No debate.

Edit: Also, Your failing to realize that niggas who are considered top 5 outside of the late BIG and Pac are still popular today. So yes, if an exposure was going to happen, we've had years to see it done. All the niggas I named have been hot for years.

If you keep saying no names, no debate then you are pretty much saying that rappers like Kiss, Sigel, Jay, etc who've openly said they've ghost written songs are lying then because they've given no names about who they've written for. No rapper has ever come out and blatantly said who they've written for, as you said before nobody counts Dre or Puffy, so using your logic they're just lying about being ghost writers.

Willful ignorance. No. That is not what I'm saying.

Stop reaching. I am saying that, with no names provided, there can be no argument about the caliber of MC they are allegedly ghostwriting for. And unless they are writing for the the type of niggas I listed, then it doesn't matter nearly as much as a Drake / Kanye situation. And if they indeed were writing for the type of niggas I listed, there would have been some kind of leak by now as has been openly shared within Kanye's camp, or exposure style like Drake. All top 5 candidates are alive and well in this social media age, save for 2 or 3 God rest their soul. That is the bottom line.

You have literally nothing to argue with dawg. You out here lookin like this.

Nah...my whole point from jump was you for some reason seem to take Drake having his ghost writers outed as some sort of flag ship moment in hip-hop when it's really not. You talking about revolutions and niggas finally being "tired of ghost writers" when if they were as tired of them as you claim then niggas would;ve been outed who they have written for.

lol you yourself just got done saying no rapper has ever been outed like Drake has for ghostwriting. Are you serious with that first sentence? That in and of itself makes it a grand event, flag ship moment. Fuck outta here.

And my revolution statement was not directed at just ghostwriters. Reread

Sidenote, I know you intuitive niggas are seeing the inside industry upheaval going on. Writers, true artists and MCs are becoming disgruntled. I'm here for the revolution and subsequent witch hunt.

I'm including the fuck shit ass mumble rappers too. There is 100% niggas who are tired of that bullshit. Which is why I mentioned Pete Rock. All the fuck shit.

All of this, just so yall can validate Drake.

 

[DaBull]

another scorned cat mad that cats took his "influence" and "ideas" and made it better LOL

so you birthed something but other cats have done it better? sound like an L to me

 

[blackrain]

How do you know they're non factors if they've never revealed who they've written for? I already said when Kiss has talked about ghost writing he said he's done it for more people than just Diddy. I'm not moving the goal post you're just not getting that this revolution you think is happening and the fact that one of the most popular rappers in the game at the moment has used ghost writers is something new when for decades now rappers have been doing interviews saying that popular rappers in the past have used ghost writers. Being that it's never been exposed to this level before even though it's always been actively frowned upon the fact that nobody has been exposed on this level before means that yes, it was getting a "pass" because no ghost writer wanted to fuck up their money and out who they were writing for.

How do you know they are? There is more credence to think that they weren't because of the shit I just mentioned.

I'm not acting on assumptions. I'm acting on what information we have, and the status quo of past times.

You are acting on an assumption.

Once again, @ bolded who? This time your implying that said acts were popular. No names? No debate.

Edit: Also, Your failing to realize that niggas who are considered top 5 outside of the late BIG and Pac are still popular today. So yes, if an exposure was going to happen, we've had years to see it done. All the niggas I named have been hot for years.

If you keep saying no names, no debate then you are pretty much saying that rappers like Kiss, Sigel, Jay, etc who've openly said they've ghost written songs are lying then because they've given no names about who they've written for. No rapper has ever come out and blatantly said who they've written for, as you said before nobody counts Dre or Puffy, so using your logic they're just lying about being ghost writers.

Willful ignorance. No. That is not what I'm saying.

Stop reaching. I am saying that, with no names provided, there can be no argument about the caliber of MC they are allegedly ghostwriting for. And unless they are writing for the the type of niggas I listed, then it doesn't matter nearly as much as a Drake / Kanye situation. And if they indeed were writing for the type of niggas I listed, there would have been some kind of leak by now as has been openly shared within Kanye's camp, or exposure style like Drake. All top 5 candidates are alive and well in this social media age, save for 2 or 3 God rest their soul. That is the bottom line.

You have literally nothing to argue with dawg. You out here lookin like this.

Nah...my whole point from jump was you for some reason seem to take Drake having his ghost writers outed as some sort of flag ship moment in hip-hop when it's really not. You talking about revolutions and niggas finally being "tired of ghost writers" when if they were as tired of them as you claim then niggas would;ve been outed who they have written for.

lol you yourself just got done saying no rapper has ever been outed like Drake has for ghostwriting. Are you serious with that first sentence? That in and of itself makes it a grand event, flag ship moment. Fuck outta here.

And my revolution statement was not directed at just ghostwriters. Reread

Sidenote, I know you intuitive niggas are seeing the inside industry upheaval going on. Writers, true artists and MCs are becoming disgruntled. I'm here for the revolution and subsequent witch hunt.

I'm including the fuck shit ass mumble rappers too. There is 100% niggas who are tired of that bullshit. Which is why I mentioned Pete Rock. All the fuck shit.

All of this, just so yall can validate Drake.

Not really, because the aftermath of Drake being outed was mainly a chorus of "It's always been that way" from a bunch of people. At most people have said "I can't seriously put him in a top 5" convo but his money ain't been stopped, his album still selling, and his tour is sold out. It ain't affect his career not 1 bit. A flagship moment would have been Drake being ran out of hip hop, his album flopping and becoming the subject of ridicule.

 

[sr_the_freshman]

How do you know they're non factors if they've never revealed who they've written for? I already said when Kiss has talked about ghost writing he said he's done it for more people than just Diddy. I'm not moving the goal post you're just not getting that this revolution you think is happening and the fact that one of the most popular rappers in the game at the moment has used ghost writers is something new when for decades now rappers have been doing interviews saying that popular rappers in the past have used ghost writers. Being that it's never been exposed to this level before even though it's always been actively frowned upon the fact that nobody has been exposed on this level before means that yes, it was getting a "pass" because no ghost writer wanted to fuck up their money and out who they were writing for.

How do you know they are? There is more credence to think that they weren't because of the shit I just mentioned.

I'm not acting on assumptions. I'm acting on what information we have, and the status quo of past times.

You are acting on an assumption.

Once again, @ bolded who? This time your implying that said acts were popular. No names? No debate.

Edit: Also, Your failing to realize that niggas who are considered top 5 outside of the late BIG and Pac are still popular today. So yes, if an exposure was going to happen, we've had years to see it done. All the niggas I named have been hot for years.

If you keep saying no names, no debate then you are pretty much saying that rappers like Kiss, Sigel, Jay, etc who've openly said they've ghost written songs are lying then because they've given no names about who they've written for. No rapper has ever come out and blatantly said who they've written for, as you said before nobody counts Dre or Puffy, so using your logic they're just lying about being ghost writers.

Willful ignorance. No. That is not what I'm saying.

Stop reaching. I am saying that, with no names provided, there can be no argument about the caliber of MC they are allegedly ghostwriting for. And unless they are writing for the the type of niggas I listed, then it doesn't matter nearly as much as a Drake / Kanye situation. And if they indeed were writing for the type of niggas I listed, there would have been some kind of leak by now as has been openly shared within Kanye's camp, or exposure style like Drake. All top 5 candidates are alive and well in this social media age, save for 2 or 3 God rest their soul. That is the bottom line.

You have literally nothing to argue with dawg. You out here lookin like this.

Nah...my whole point from jump was you for some reason seem to take Drake having his ghost writers outed as some sort of flag ship moment in hip-hop when it's really not. You talking about revolutions and niggas finally being "tired of ghost writers" when if they were as tired of them as you claim then niggas would;ve been outed who they have written for.

lol you yourself just got done saying no rapper has ever been outed like Drake has for ghostwriting. Are you serious with that first sentence? That in and of itself makes it a grand event, flag ship moment. Fuck outta here.

And my revolution statement was not directed at just ghostwriters. Reread

Sidenote, I know you intuitive niggas are seeing the inside industry upheaval going on. Writers, true artists and MCs are becoming disgruntled. I'm here for the revolution and subsequent witch hunt.

I'm including the fuck shit ass mumble rappers too. There is 100% niggas who are tired of that bullshit. Which is why I mentioned Pete Rock. All the fuck shit.

All of this, just so yall can validate Drake.

Not really, because the aftermath of Drake being outed was mainly a chorus of "It's always been that way" from a bunch of people. At most people have said "I can't seriously put him in a top 5" convo but his money ain't been stopped, his album still selling, and his tour is sold out. It ain't affect his career not 1 bit. A flagship moment would have been Drake being ran out of hip hop, his album flopping and becoming the subject of ridicule.

Dawg, it didnt have to go that far for it to be a flagship moment in Hip-Hop.

Only retarded casual fans who dont give a fuck about anything, let alone the culture are saying I'ts always been that way and are accepting it. And media personalities who are trying to protect their political connects. Just because these said morons are acting like they don't care doesnt make it right or acceptable.

Its a flagship moment because it is an unprecedented exposure.

It's a flagship moment because even now, a year out, we are getting threads like this with other artists whom have had enough speaking out and are talking about it.

Your grasping straws.

 

[DarthRozay]

Plain Pat used to be Kanye's manager

 

[DarthRozay]

Cudi hasn't had a good album in years tho. Indicud was okay but not as dope as MOTM 1&2

 

[StoneColdMikey]

Kanye and drake going to give us a good album while PND and Cudi uses the leftovers and it's mediocre

 

[R.D.]

Listen to 808s then listen to 90% of commercial rap today. You'd be a damn liar/hater if you didn't acknowledge the influence.

Y'all blow the fuck out of me when y'all do this

808s is a Kanye project, no matter what Cudi did behind the scenes, it took Kanye to really bring that out

Besides that, The Love Below came out years before 808s so how the fuck could Cudi be responsible for that

Same shit with Drake, that's not these niggas influence, they didn't start this shit

I fuck with Cudi but idk who he influenced

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Niggas must have missed the part where it's been mentioned 808s is basically a Cudi album curated by Kanye

I've point that out on here numerous times before. Don't understand why niggas keep "forgetting.” Jeezy was also heavily credited on the album after Cudi.

 

[BackInWhite]

When there's another drake niggas will really see that these are different times and that this "flagship moment" meant absolutely nothing

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Cudi hasn't had a good album in years tho. Indicud was okay but not as dope as MOTM 1&2

Why do yall keep doing this?

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Niggas must have missed the part where it's been mentioned 808s is basically a Cudi album curated by Kanye

I've point that out on here numerous times before. Don't understand why niggas keep "forgetting.” Jeezy was also heavily credited on the album after Cudi.

BTW for those who keep saying cudi wrote the whole 808's. I may b missing something perhaps u can school me. But y is cudi only credited on 4 tracks? And b4 u say "that's y it's called ghostwriting dummy", y is he credited on 3 tracks he has no vocals on?

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

How do you know they're non factors if they've never revealed who they've written for? I already said when Kiss has talked about ghost writing he said he's done it for more people than just Diddy. I'm not moving the goal post you're just not getting that this revolution you think is happening and the fact that one of the most popular rappers in the game at the moment has used ghost writers is something new when for decades now rappers have been doing interviews saying that popular rappers in the past have used ghost writers. Being that it's never been exposed to this level before even though it's always been actively frowned upon the fact that nobody has been exposed on this level before means that yes, it was getting a "pass" because no ghost writer wanted to fuck up their money and out who they were writing for.

How do you know they are? There is more credence to think that they weren't because of the shit I just mentioned.

I'm not acting on assumptions. I'm acting on what information we have, and the status quo of past times.

You are acting on an assumption.

Once again, @ bolded who? This time your implying that said acts were popular. No names? No debate.

Edit: Also, Your failing to realize that niggas who are considered top 5 outside of the late BIG and Pac are still popular today. So yes, if an exposure was going to happen, we've had years to see it done. All the niggas I named have been hot for years.

If you keep saying no names, no debate then you are pretty much saying that rappers like Kiss, Sigel, Jay, etc who've openly said they've ghost written songs are lying then because they've given no names about who they've written for. No rapper has ever come out and blatantly said who they've written for, as you said before nobody counts Dre or Puffy, so using your logic they're just lying about being ghost writers.

Willful ignorance. No. That is not what I'm saying.

Stop reaching. I am saying that, with no names provided, there can be no argument about the caliber of MC they are allegedly ghostwriting for. And unless they are writing for the the type of niggas I listed, then it doesn't matter nearly as much as a Drake / Kanye situation. And if they indeed were writing for the type of niggas I listed, there would have been some kind of leak by now as has been openly shared within Kanye's camp, or exposure style like Drake. All top 5 candidates are alive and well in this social media age, save for 2 or 3 God rest their soul. That is the bottom line.

You have literally nothing to argue with dawg. You out here lookin like this.

Nah...my whole point from jump was you for some reason seem to take Drake having his ghost writers outed as some sort of flag ship moment in hip-hop when it's really not. You talking about revolutions and niggas finally being "tired of ghost writers" when if they were as tired of them as you claim then niggas would;ve been outed who they have written for.

lol you yourself just got done saying no rapper has ever been outed like Drake has for ghostwriting. Are you serious with that first sentence? That in and of itself makes it a grand event, flag ship moment. Fuck outta here.

And my revolution statement was not directed at just ghostwriters. Reread

Sidenote, I know you intuitive niggas are seeing the inside industry upheaval going on. Writers, true artists and MCs are becoming disgruntled. I'm here for the revolution and subsequent witch hunt.

I'm including the fuck shit ass mumble rappers too. There is 100% niggas who are tired of that bullshit. Which is why I mentioned Pete Rock. All the fuck shit.

All of this, just so yall can validate Drake.

Not really, because the aftermath of Drake being outed was mainly a chorus of "It's always been that way" from a bunch of people. At most people have said "I can't seriously put him in a top 5" convo but his money ain't been stopped, his album still selling, and his tour is sold out. It ain't affect his career not 1 bit. A flagship moment would have been Drake being ran out of hip hop, his album flopping and becoming the subject of ridicule.

Dawg, it didnt have to go that far for it to be a flagship moment in Hip-Hop.

Only retarded casual fans who dont give a fuck about anything, let alone the culture are saying I'ts always been that way and are accepting it. And media personalities who are trying to protect their political connects. Just because these said morons are acting like they don't care doesnt make it right or acceptable.

Its a flagship moment because it is an unprecedented exposure.

It's a flagship moment because even now, a year out, we are getting threads like this with other artists whom have had enough speaking out and are talking about it.

Your grasping straws.

U still believe in Santa I bet

"THE REVOLUTION AGAINST NIGGAS WHO ONLY MAKING MINIMAL WAVES IS UPON US!!!!"

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

Sounds like the only thing these niggas have is 3 so far gon beats have a similar mood to some kid cudi shit that could have been done after and released b4 for all we know, and cudi did the whole 808s album except 66% of it

 

[sr_the_freshman]

How do you know they're non factors if they've never revealed who they've written for? I already said when Kiss has talked about ghost writing he said he's done it for more people than just Diddy. I'm not moving the goal post you're just not getting that this revolution you think is happening and the fact that one of the most popular rappers in the game at the moment has used ghost writers is something new when for decades now rappers have been doing interviews saying that popular rappers in the past have used ghost writers. Being that it's never been exposed to this level before even though it's always been actively frowned upon the fact that nobody has been exposed on this level before means that yes, it was getting a "pass" because no ghost writer wanted to fuck up their money and out who they were writing for.

How do you know they are? There is more credence to think that they weren't because of the shit I just mentioned.

I'm not acting on assumptions. I'm acting on what information we have, and the status quo of past times.

You are acting on an assumption.

Once again, @ bolded who? This time your implying that said acts were popular. No names? No debate.

Edit: Also, Your failing to realize that niggas who are considered top 5 outside of the late BIG and Pac are still popular today. So yes, if an exposure was going to happen, we've had years to see it done. All the niggas I named have been hot for years.

If you keep saying no names, no debate then you are pretty much saying that rappers like Kiss, Sigel, Jay, etc who've openly said they've ghost written songs are lying then because they've given no names about who they've written for. No rapper has ever come out and blatantly said who they've written for, as you said before nobody counts Dre or Puffy, so using your logic they're just lying about being ghost writers.

Willful ignorance. No. That is not what I'm saying.

Stop reaching. I am saying that, with no names provided, there can be no argument about the caliber of MC they are allegedly ghostwriting for. And unless they are writing for the the type of niggas I listed, then it doesn't matter nearly as much as a Drake / Kanye situation. And if they indeed were writing for the type of niggas I listed, there would have been some kind of leak by now as has been openly shared within Kanye's camp, or exposure style like Drake. All top 5 candidates are alive and well in this social media age, save for 2 or 3 God rest their soul. That is the bottom line.

You have literally nothing to argue with dawg. You out here lookin like this.

Nah...my whole point from jump was you for some reason seem to take Drake having his ghost writers outed as some sort of flag ship moment in hip-hop when it's really not. You talking about revolutions and niggas finally being "tired of ghost writers" when if they were as tired of them as you claim then niggas would;ve been outed who they have written for.

lol you yourself just got done saying no rapper has ever been outed like Drake has for ghostwriting. Are you serious with that first sentence? That in and of itself makes it a grand event, flag ship moment. Fuck outta here.

And my revolution statement was not directed at just ghostwriters. Reread

Sidenote, I know you intuitive niggas are seeing the inside industry upheaval going on. Writers, true artists and MCs are becoming disgruntled. I'm here for the revolution and subsequent witch hunt.

I'm including the fuck shit ass mumble rappers too. There is 100% niggas who are tired of that bullshit. Which is why I mentioned Pete Rock. All the fuck shit.

All of this, just so yall can validate Drake.

Not really, because the aftermath of Drake being outed was mainly a chorus of "It's always been that way" from a bunch of people. At most people have said "I can't seriously put him in a top 5" convo but his money ain't been stopped, his album still selling, and his tour is sold out. It ain't affect his career not 1 bit. A flagship moment would have been Drake being ran out of hip hop, his album flopping and becoming the subject of ridicule.

Dawg, it didnt have to go that far for it to be a flagship moment in Hip-Hop.

Only retarded casual fans who dont give a fuck about anything, let alone the culture are saying I'ts always been that way and are accepting it. And media personalities who are trying to protect their political connects. Just because these said morons are acting like they don't care doesnt make it right or acceptable.

Its a flagship moment because it is an unprecedented exposure.

It's a flagship moment because even now, a year out, we are getting threads like this with other artists whom have had enough speaking out and are talking about it.

Your grasping straws.

U still believe in Santa I bet

"THE REVOLUTION AGAINST NIGGAS WHO ONLY MAKING MINIMAL WAVES IS UPON US!!!!"

I bet you condone / accept this because you haven't found the magic ghostwriter to propel your nonexistent career out of your dirt hut garage. You are, afterall, musically inept as well Peezy.

The concept of an individual getting credited for something he didn't do being lame isn't hard to understand, unless of course your a fuck nigga. So I'm not surprised by your homotional response.