Kendrick Lamar - "To Pimp a Butterfly"

[Listencloser]

How Much a Dollar Cost is deep

Probably my favorite track hands down

I feel the wordplay was incredible but was not very deep in message

I'm not shitting on the song because its one of the dopest on the album. The structure of the narative is good the beat and chorus especially Ron at the end is great and his word play is superb but the message is not deep.

Explain what you took from the message in the song? God as a bum has to tell to him that the path to heaven is through charity. It would have been more poignant if the bum was just a man.

 

[Clout3k]

@Listencloser I think it needed to be god since from what i can tell the point of it comes from the actual bible...

"Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Matthew 19:24

In this case the meaning is literal so yeah not very deep, but something lost on most people in the grand scheme of things. Being agnostic I'm not throwing that out on some preach shit. The message while simple, i didn't see it coming when first listening to the song. So I'd say it was effective.

 

[rip.dilla]

I like the live version of 'i'.. Those guitar riffs and the funky element

Every day a new song captures my attention

 

[S2J]

How Much a Dollar Cost is deep

Probably my favorite track hands down

I feel the wordplay was incredible but was not very deep in message

I'm not shitting on the song because its one of the dopest on the album. The structure of the narative is good the beat and chorus especially Ron at the end is great and his word play is superb but the message is not deep.

Explain what you took from the message in the song? God as a bum has to tell to him that the path to heaven is through charity. It would have been more poignant if the bum was just a man.

Lol Uhh, ok. Kinda the difference in approaches i see nowadays

The opposite of that would be on some Lupe My CoolYoungHistory garbage

Imo, the simpmicity in the message is what makes the message. Thats why i like Kendeick 100 times more than Lupe. Foh w/ that rappity rap rap riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden in a metaphor nonsense

 

[Like Water]

How Much a Dollar Cost is deep

Probably favorite track hands down

I feel the wordplay was incredible but was not very deep in message

I'm not shitting on the song because its one of the dopest on the album. The structure of the narative is good the beat and chorus especially Ron at the end is great and his word play is superb but the message is not deep.

Explain what you took from the message in the song? God as a bum has to tell to him that the path to heaven is through charity. It would have been more poignant if the bum was just a man.

Lol Uhh, ok. Kinda the difference in approaches i see nowadays

The opposite of that would be on some Lupe My CoolYoungHistory garbage

Imo, the simpmicity in the message is what makes the message. Thats why i like Kendeick 100 times more than Lupe. Foh w/ that rappity rap rap riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden in a metaphor nonsense

I love the albums that both Kendrick and Lu put out. They have two completely different approaches to the music, but both their messages are identical.

And despite many people not necessarily diggin Lupe's approach, I, like many others, feel like Lupe has helped lay the groundwork for a lot of the current generation of lyricists.

And once again, ain't nothing wrong with niggas liking two similar artists. And people can't really argue about them being similar if they're always being compared to one another.

 

[MrCrookedLetter]

 

[soul rattler]

@Listencloser I think it needed to be god since from what i can tell the point of it comes from the actual bible...

"Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Matthew 19:24

In this case the meaning is literal so yeah not very deep, but something lost on most people in the grand scheme of things. Being agnostic I'm not throwing that out on some preach shit. The message while simple, i didn't see it coming when first listening to the song. So I'd say it was effective.

I'm the furthest thing from a theist but I fuck with How Much A Dollar Cost too for the same reason. It's a powerful and deep message and while the concept of G-d as a bum isn't exactly new, I didn't see it coming in the last verse.

 

[soul rattler]

Mortal Man is my favorite track now.

That nigga gave us Billy Jean, you say he touched those kids?

When shit hits the fan is you still a fan?

 

[LcnsdbyROYALTY]

Whale salty as fuck smh

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

How Much a Dollar Cost is deep

Probably my favorite track hands down

I feel the wordplay was incredible but was not very deep in message

I'm not shitting on the song because its one of the dopest on the album. The structure of the narative is good the beat and chorus especially Ron at the end is great and his word play is superb but the message is not deep.

Explain what you took from the message in the song? God as a bum has to tell to him that the path to heaven is through charity. It would have been more poignant if the bum was just a man.

I never said it was groundbreaking. Maybe "deep" is too strong of a word.

Spoiler

It just makes you (generally speaking) think, how much does a dollar cost? As a society we've been subconsciously taught to look down on those lesser than.

we look away when we see the poor, make up excuses and become quick to judge.

we think "hey If I got a job and I'm out here hustling they can do it too." Instead of lending a helping hand we look at all the "negatives" and try to defend our actions as if its somehow justifiable.

Our first thought isnt one to help its to demonize and create scenarios for us to rationalize why we cant lend that dollar.

"son temptation is one thing that Ive defeated"

That line stood out to me the most. Its a reflection of society of we treat people based on appearances. Especially poor black people. "Oh he's a crackhead." Could he have an addiction? Its possible but morally I have no room for judgement. Just because I'm in this car on what grounds do I have to judge based off an appearance? None

We as people shunning the poor says more about us than it does about the person asking for help.

 

[bignorm]

Nigha brings up an album that's damn near 10 years old but won't bring up that kendrick outsold Nas last album

That's cool. Anyone think Kendrick will still sell 100k plus his first week 20 years in?

Whats that Kendrick 2030 album looking like? Think he will still have the audiences ear?

 

[rip.dilla]

Hahaha @ that nigga Wale catching feelings. Hilarious

Mortal Man is my favorite track now.

That nigga gave us Billy Jean, you say he touched those kids?

When shit hits the fan is you still a fan?

Yeah, those lines caught my attention.

Also dude had both Terrace Martin and Robert Glasper producing on the same track! Two of the most prominent New Age jazz musicians. Fucking incredible!!!

 

[IceBergTaylor]

Damn y'all leave Wale alone breh

 

[mike_tech]

Okay finally heard this album, I gotta say it is an overhyped album. Yea the sound is different but that dont mean its dope or classic, I think kendrick is trying too hard to be different. The album is ok/good nothing more nothing less to me. I think kendrick fans are forcing themselves to listen and like this album lol.

 

[Babaaa]

Okay finally heard this album, I gotta say it is an overhyped album. Yea the sound is different but that dont mean its dope or classic, I think kendrick is trying too hard to be different. The album is ok/good nothing more nothing less to me. I think kendrick fans are forcing themselves to listen and like this album lol.

So just because you think its overhyped everybody else is forcing themselves to like it?

Ait that makes sense

 

[nj2089]

Nigha brings up an album that's damn near 10 years old but won't bring up that kendrick outsold Nas last album

That's cool. Anyone think Kendrick will still sell 100k plus his first week 20 years in?

Whats that Kendrick 2030 album looking like? Think he will still have the audiences ear?

Huh

 

[nj2089]

You guys always think of the dumbest shit to say

 

[clippyclipp n*gga]

You know i find hilarious that peoole said kendrick did something different he really isn't different if you listen to his catalog its just bits and pieces of styles of music he has already done before. I can tell theselisteners that just started listening to kendrick during gkmc hype.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

album about nothing about to go double nothing....

i dont fuck with wale but my brother went out of his way to let me know that his new project is pretty good.

April Fools?

 

[Karl.]

Some of the tracks on this album really don't make sense to me.

Especially that For Free? track.