ShiveDreadz;7694987 said:
Stiff;7694968 said:
Was it "a lack of self-respect" when Jim Crow was the law of the land?
Was it "a lack of self-respect" when we were kidnapped and in chains?
So Blacks were getting oppressed,enslaved,slaughtered because "they didn't respect themselves?"
If it wasn't the case back then, then on what day did it shift from them just being exploitative oppressors to us being deserving of our oppression because of our own behavior?
So this whole time WE'VE been our own problem? Come on bra...
When you say things like that it's like you justifying the shit.
1)Blacks traded other blacks off way before those boys from portugal came down and set up shop. The slaves that refused to be broken and enslaved killed themselves or jumped ship, the ones that became slaves were weak enough to become slaves. Even during slavery there were slaves that stood up and got killed because they REFUSED to be slaves.
Why was there a need to go all the way to africa to find slaves when there were millions of people already in america when the spanish came? hmmmmmm....
2)The law of the land changed because black people had respect enough to stand up and get it changed.
1) "Black" wasn't a concept until western Europeans invented it as a means of justifying slavery. West Africans didn't look at other tribes and kingdoms as "their people"
They went to Africa to find slaves because the Native Americans were being wiped out because of disease that the Europeans brought with them(as much as 90% of the native population was wiped out within 100 years). Native Americans that survived were enslaved too...Native Americans sold out other Native Americans as well. Again what you're arguing sounds like justification.
2) So that respect appeared out of thin air and then vanished out of thin air? That respect wasn't there when the laws were being written? I don't understand this argument.
If you say "Black people don't respect themselves" then you're being irresponsible when you don't also pose the question: "Why don't Black people respect themselves?"
What's the history behind that?
What were contributing factors?
What psychological damage was caused and what caused it?
Do these factors still persist today?
Let's not act like it's all or even mostly internal. It's ALOT external.