Keep it Reality: The NBA Blackballed Allen Iverson...

[playmaker88]

Appreciated..

Blackballed.

 

[1of1]

So was he blackballed because he is black, or is there another reason?

 

[1of1]

Not because, he was Black. But because, he refused to stop representing what is Black and inner-city and ghetto, of a degree which the NBA was attempting to rid it's Image of since 2005

Do you feel like he is believed to represent all things ghetto because of his image in the physical form or is there something he has said or actions he has taken that define his ghettoness?

 

[Maalik]

He wouldnt fit in the triangle.. not only is he a small guard but hes a liability on defense.. (jumping passing lanes doesnt make you a great defender) Dribbling the ball is counter to the triangles philosophy its and equal opportunity motion offense.. AI came out the womb dribbling the ball..

Imo Ai would have been great off the bench on other teams.. but he is/ was too high maintenance and when it goto the end of the rode he wanted to "change" from what i heard of him,,, but ultimately he was always embroiled in some offcourt shit in the last year or so of his career

1. A.I. is one of the best players to step foot on the court. Ridiculous to think he couldn't learn the Triangle offense.

2. A.I. is 6"0, 5"10 or 5"11...depending on who you ask. Derek Fisher is 6"1. Big disparity there.

3. Derek Fisher is a liability on offense & defense. Especially in the Playoffs. Everytime the Lakers play a talented PG, they're assed out. As a Laker GM, I'd much rather have Iverson guarding Russell Westbrook, Rajon Rondo & Derrick Rose than Fisher.

4. A.I. could play the point. Derek Fisher averaged 2 assists a game in 2010. Fisher never averaged higher than 4.4 assists in his career. A.I. averaged 7.1 assists with Denver, 4.9 assists with Detroit, career high was 7.9 with Philly in 2004.

5. A.I. along with Bynum, Gasol, Odom & Artest would be an unbelievable cast to Kobe. Bynum & Gasol bangin down low, Artest guarding the opposing best player, Kobe gettin his 25-30 a night & A.I. helping with 15-18 like he did in Denver and atleast trying to keep up with the fast point guards (doin a better job than Fisher could).

6. If A.I. could tone down his attitude in Denver with Melo......I think he'd tone it down in L.A. knowing its a 90% chance he going to the Finals.

7. Fisher put up 7.5 ppg in 2010, A.I.'s last full year he put up 17.5 ppg.

8. If Gasol, Bynum & Kobe were off that night.......A.I. could put up a quick 5-10 points & alot more often than Fisher could in the same situation.

9. If Phil Jackson could manage Rodman....he could manage Iverson.

Come on....there's no way you could argue Fisher being better PG than A.I.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Not because, he was Black. But because, he refused to stop representing what is Black and inner-city and ghetto, of a degree which the NBA was attempting to rid it's Image of since 2005

Point taken: Stern HATED that shit with a passion and Iverson was the poster boy for that.

 

[bigrizz]

lol @ dudes co-signing a coke head with a physical addiction on an NBA team but not AI due to his simply wanting to start (as most of the NBA wants to do) and not see through the bullshit

 

[bigrizz]

Niggas forgot that if he wouldnt have won a ship with LA ron artest wouldnt have been "weeded" out of the league.

NBA cant have that "niggerish" behavior i.e

making niggas wear suits....

 

[playmaker88]

1. A.I. is one of the best players to step foot on the court. Ridiculous to think he couldn't learn the Triangle offense.

Who said he couldn't learn.. A dog cant become a cat though
2. A.I. is 6"0, 5"10 or 5"11...depending on who you ask. Derek Fisher is 6"1. Big disparity there.

Derek Fisher is not the greatst defender but he has a defensive toughness and grit that Ai doesnt have and Ai was 165 in a soggy head band

3. Derek Fisher is a liability on offense & defense. Especially in the Playoffs. Everytime the Lakers play a talented PG, they're assed out. As a Laker GM, I'd much rather have Iverson guarding Russell Westbrook, Rajon Rondo & Derrick Rose than Fisher.

AI would get slaughtered you serious.. Westbrook and Rose would rag doll him....

4. A.I. could play the point. Derek Fisher averaged 2 assists a game. Fisher never averaged higher than 4.4 assists in his career. A.I. averaged 7.1 assists with Denver, 4.9 assists with Detroit, career high was 7.9 with Philly in 2004.

Having the ball in his hands 95% of the time hes going to get his assist.. Dont let the numbers fool you..

5. A.I. along with Bynum, Gasol, Odom & Artest would be an unbelievable cast to Kobe. Bynum & Gasol bangin down low, Artest guarding the opposing best player, Kobe gettin his 25-30 a night & A.I. helping with 15-18 like he did in Denver and atleast trying to keep up with the fast point guards (doin a better job than Fisher could).

We dont need Ai.. never needed him and it would be doin him a favor.. And how old is Ai he hasnt played high level ball in what 2 years.. That lil Turkey Stint he was getting no Run before he got injured.. and even still he played like "Allen Iverson"

6. If A.I. could tone down his attitude in Denver with Melo......I think he'd tone it down in L.A. knowing its a 90% chance he going to the Finals.

Thats only one thing.. what about changing his game for the betterment of the team and being more of a distributor. Why didn't AI stay riddle me that

7. Fisher put up 7.5 ppg in 2010, A.I.'s last year he put up 17.5 ppg.

Different roles. Different players.. and Fisher never was an Ai.

8. If Gasol, Bynum & Kobe were off that night.......A.I. could put up a quick 5-10 points & alot more often than Fisher could in the same situation.

This never happened wont happen. lets stop talking about dream hypothetical situations and base them on reality AI.. could have played for anyone but he didnt want to accept a diminished role unitl he was on his deathbed

9. If Phil Jackson could manage Rodman....he could manage Iverson.
Rodman had no Ego.. no matter what he did off court and ......on lol.. You couldnt question him.. And Rodman did grind work he dindt need the ball.. Rodman was more Enigmatic than anything

Come on....there's no way you could argue Fisher being better PG than A.I.

No one said so.. why you want ai on the lakers so bad.

 

[Maalik]

No one said so.. why you want ai on the lakers so bad.

i dont....i just wanted to show he could start & most likely do better than alot of players who currently do.

 

[dholt23]

Iverson skill set, which relied on speed and quickness, wore out with age. His size, nh, became his own worst enemy. And alcohol became his new best friend. And unlike some like Jordan, with the fadeaway, Iverson failed to add a new dimension to his game which would have allowed him to further career. And what made it worse is that he thought he was still the same player that he was in his 20's. His unwillingness to accept a new role, unwillingness to accept that he was not the player he once was, and his unwillingness to accept sobriety are why he ended up in Bangladesh or wherever it is. This became clear during his traffic stop. Growing up, and all during his time in the league, the popo always knew who iverson was. and that was a bad thing. Now he's begging for cops to recognize him.

that pretty much sums it up^^^^^^^^^ and who in fuck can he guard

 

[bigrizz]

A.I. wouldnt fit in LA because he wouldnt let Hobe hit it

 

[playmaker88]

i dont....i just wanted to show he could start & most likely do better than alot of players who currently do.

I answered in bold.. and no one doubted that..at all

 

[major pain]

Appreciated..

Blackballed.

*Daps* its a great feature.

 

[Coo Coo Cal's Beanie]

LOL he wasnt blackballed. Nobody kicked him out the league. This is a fuckin job. Just like at ur job, if someone causes problems on the job regularly they will find someone else to replace them at the end of their contract. Thats what happened.

 

[peacetothereal1]

Nah...we gotta agree to disagree....

to me it sounds like "well...yea, you still better than 50% of the leagues point guards but, Imma bench you for the nigga who averages 6 points a game because his attitude is better" *insert* Michelle Obama Why you mad gif and calls Iverson a poor sport for leaving.

What do you really mean by better? Iverson is NOT at this point better than fifty percent of the league fam. He is not a facillitator and he's not a defender, he's a scorer and he lost a few steps....so....unless he was willing to come off the bench...nobody wants to be bothered. I think they are all right and you're wrong. How's A.I. doing in Turkey...is he averaging 30? How about 25? He should be KILLING in Turkey if what you say is true.

 

[Coo Coo Cal's Beanie]

he averages 14 in turkey. He'd average about 10 here, and im being generous

 

[b*braze]

1. A.I. is one of the best players to step foot on the court. Ridiculous to think he couldn't learn the Triangle offense.

2. A.I. is 6"0, 5"10 or 5"11...depending on who you ask. Derek Fisher is 6"1. Big disparity there.

3. Derek Fisher is a liability on offense & defense. Especially in the Playoffs. Everytime the Lakers play a talented PG, they're assed out. As a Laker GM, I'd much rather have Iverson guarding Russell Westbrook, Rajon Rondo & Derrick Rose than Fisher.

4. A.I. could play the point. Derek Fisher averaged 2 assists a game in 2010. Fisher never averaged higher than 4.4 assists in his career. A.I. averaged 7.1 assists with Denver, 4.9 assists with Detroit, career high was 7.9 with Philly in 2004.

5. A.I. along with Bynum, Gasol, Odom & Artest would be an unbelievable cast to Kobe. Bynum & Gasol bangin down low, Artest guarding the opposing best player, Kobe gettin his 25-30 a night & A.I. helping with 15-18 like he did in Denver and atleast trying to keep up with the fast point guards (doin a better job than Fisher could).

6. If A.I. could tone down his attitude in Denver with Melo......I think he'd tone it down in L.A. knowing its a 90% chance he going to the Finals.

7. Fisher put up 7.5 ppg in 2010, A.I.'s last full year he put up 17.5 ppg.

8. If Gasol, Bynum & Kobe were off that night.......A.I. could put up a quick 5-10 points & alot more often than Fisher could in the same situation.

9. If Phil Jackson could manage Rodman....he could manage Iverson.

Come on....there's no way you could argue Fisher being better PG than A.I.

first of all the triangle is a PG killing offense as it is predicated on player and ball movement with kobe already routinely breaking it by freestyling. see gary payton's subpar season with the lakers

AI is better than fisher and blake (and brown for that matter) by far... but they fit the triangle because they dont need to handle the ball all the time

second would AI be satisfied with steve blake/derek fisher money? thats another point yall missin, we way over the cap already as it is, as are many other teams. is it worth the mone for what little he may bring?

 

[Trollio]

its some dumbasses in here

 

[king hassan]

LOL he wasnt blackballed. Nobody kicked him out the league. This is a fuckin job. Just like at ur job, if someone causes problems on the job regularly they will find someone else to replace them at the end of their contract. Thats what happened.

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