Keep it Reality: The NBA Blackballed Allen Iverson...

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Maalik;2372681 said:
No...after years of A.I. being a dick in Philly he caught a rep...

And just like in this thread...coaches & GMs had perceptions of him...

No nigga...and I mean...no nigga in this thread gonna convince me Jeff Teague can start but...Iverson couldn't. Nobody.

Ok sure he "could" start, but WHY would people continue to put up with his shit? You act like every team in the league should have put him on their starting squad just cuz.. lol
 
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G Mackin' It;2372678 said:
and yet you talk about "team basketball"

and no im not talking about personalities im talkin about overall game

man..listen...

yall said Iverson couldn't play with nobody & treated his teammates like the help...

I countered that he blended with Melo. It was no egos over there. the fact that Denver aint play D is beside the point. I was expecting A.I to go over to Colorado & eventually start some shit with Melo about not gettin enough touches. Never happened
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playmaker88;2372620 said:
EXACTLY... Melo is another Ai in a sense.. i said it 1000.. buying into george karl after after a while and chauncey Billups made him a better player..

nah, they just didnt want to pay AI after his contract expired.....it was all about what HE thought he was worth and what the league thought he was worth

I just asked danny ainge...

And AI was blackballed for that.

Hes better than 30 percent of the leagues point guards
 
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major pain;2372689 said:
Ok sure he "could" start, but WHY would people continue to put up with his shit? You act like every team in the league should have put him on their starting squad just cuz.. lol

and thats my point....blackballed. its other reasons beside his talent for why he got benched.
 
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Maalik;2372697 said:
and thats my point....blackballed. its other reasons beside his talent for why he got benched.

thats not blackballed that an attitude problem and an unwillingness to conform.. there was no AI blackball memo passed around nor was it understood..on some secret handshake shit..
 
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Maalik;2372697 said:
and thats my point....blackballed. its other reasons beside his talent for why he got benched.

Then it is his own fault, he got himself blackballed because of his antics and his attitude. Nothing racial, nothing about his ethnicity, it was all because of him.
 
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Maalik;2372672 said:
Niggas got the shortest memory lol...just had a thread yesterday about how garbage D. Fisher is. I think dude put up like 5 points a game lol...I think A.I. could've fit in with L.A. & I think Kobe would appreciate that nigga come playoff time

He wouldnt fit in the triangle.. not only is he a small guard but hes a liability on defense.. (jumping passing lanes doesnt make you a great defender) Dribbling the ball is counter to the triangles philosophy its and equal opportunity motion offense.. AI came out the womb dribbling the ball..

Imo Ai would have been great off the bench on other teams.. but he is/ was too high maintenance and when it goto the end of the rode he wanted to "change" from what i heard of him,,, but ultimately he was always embroiled in some offcourt shit in the last year or so of his career
 
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playmaker88;2372704 said:
thats not blackballed that an attitude problem and an unwillingness to conform.. there was no AI blackball memo passed around nor was it understood..on some secret handshake shit..

Nah...we gotta agree to disagree....

to me it sounds like "well...yea, you still better than 50% of the leagues point guards but, Imma bench you for the nigga who averages 6 points a game because his attitude is better" *insert* Michelle Obama Why you mad gif and calls Iverson a poor sport for leaving.
 
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Maalik;2372721 said:
Nah...we gotta agree to disagree....

to me it sounds like "well...yea, you still better than 50% of the leagues point guards but, Imma bench you for the nigga who averages 6 points a game because his attitude is better" *insert* Michelle Obama Why you mad gif and calls Iverson a poor sport for leaving.

So just because you have more talent. people should put up with your bullshit.. even if its cancerous to the young players of your team.
 
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mikelewis;2372714 said:
Then it is his own fault, he got himself blackballed because of his antics and his attitude. Nothing racial, nothing about his ethnicity, it was all because of him.

Your absolutely right. see thats where yall got me fucked up. I never said it wasn't A.I.'s fault. I just wanted yall to admit he was blackballed. A.I. made his bed over his career acting like a douchebag & it caught up to him in the end when no team wanted to put up with him eventhough he was still better than most point guards.
 
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Maalik;2372730 said:

Your absolutely right. see thats where yall got me fucked up. I never said it wasn't A.I.'s fault. I just wanted yall to admit he was blackballed. A.I. made his bed over his career acting like a douchebag & it caught up to him in the end when no team wanted to put up with him eventhough he was still better than most point guards.

OK then you want to say the league blackballed him, but its more like he fucked himself over and no one wants to put up with him. I mean how many chances does one player get before NO ONE wants to fuck with him?
 
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its over: 2012!;2372727 said:
it is racial, or else Birdman Andersen would have his billboard body, mullet wearing, mohawk rocking, crack-cocaine smoking azz, in Turkey with A.I.

Shouldn't I say it was racist toward Chris Andersen since a black man in Allen Iverson, despite all of his off-the-court antics, was not suspended for any of it, whereas a white man in Chris Andersen was??

The amount of chances on four different teams Allen Iverson received blows away the one chance Chris Andersen received for one team.
 
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When it came to the beginning of his career in the NBA, being he was a major high profile player A.I. put the spotlight on.. and basically aimed the career suicide gun at himself with some of his antics and personal beefs....if any NBA head knows his shit, they should know Stern NEVER liked Allen Iverson from the jump. His type was too wide open. even though he attempted to straighten out in Denver with Melo and co, Stern took the opportunity to shit on him in Memphis.

So to the T/S you could say it was half and half. Yeah they blackballed him, but give A.I. a partial percentage of that as well.
 
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its over: 2012!;2372740 said:
you fake fucc...

if you don't say that about Birdman Andersen, then don't say it about A.I....fair is fair

Or else show how Birdman Andersens' tattooed body, his weird haircuts, and his history of cocaine addiction...help young players grow, on his team?...LOL...oh yey, please do continue to not respond back to me, I'm cool with that. As long as you never deny me the pleasure of knowing that your eyes, nor your conscience, can hide from these hits.

Birdman has no ego is not the centerpiece of his team and is low maintenance and gets how many minutes in a game..

as opposed to ai..

now can someone tell me how to not see dudes post.. appreciate it.
 
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Maalik;2372691 said:
man..listen...

yall said Iverson couldn't play with nobody & treated his teammates like the help...

I countered that he blended with Melo. It was no egos over there. the fact that Denver aint play D is beside the point. I was expecting A.I to go over to Colorado & eventually start some shit with Melo about not gettin enough touches. Never happened
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yeah you right...his ego rarely showed, he really respected the coach plus he got his share of shots......but what he did in mem and phila crossed the line

at the end of the day i hope some team gives him a shot at a roster spot next year, just to close out his career on positive note
 
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major pain;2372738 said:
OK then you want to say the league blackballed him, but its more like he fucked himself over and no one wants to put up with him. I mean how many chances does one player get before NO ONE wants to fuck with him?

true....but yall makin this harder than it need to be. Yall keep describing "blackballed" in a round about way with your posts but, then say its no such thing.

Not wantin to fuck with a player who's still good = blackballed
Not wantin to put up with a player's "perceived" personality & puttin a worse player in his spot = blackballed
Saying a player's a bum now when there's 15 worse startin point guards = blackballed
Saying a player's a selfish volume shooter, when he shot less than players we consider team players = blackballed
Saying you'd start Derek Fisher over Allen Iverson = stage 4 syphilis
 
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Maalik;2372730 said:

Your absolutely right. see thats where yall got me fucked up. I never said it wasn't A.I.'s fault. I just wanted yall to admit he was blackballed. A.I. made his bed over his career acting like a douchebag & it caught up to him in the end when no team wanted to put up with him eventhough he was still better than most point guards.

I agreed with you up until the better than most point guards comment, for when he and Chauncey Billups swapped teams, the Pistons missed the playoffs with Allen Iverson and the Denver Nuggets made it to the Western Conference Finals with Chauncey.
 
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Disciplined InSight;2372748 said:
When it came to the beginning of his career in the NBA, being he was a major high profile player A.I. put the spotlight on.. and basically aimed the career suicide gun at himself with some of his antics and personal beefs....if any NBA head knows his shit, they should know Stern NEVER liked Allen Iverson from the jump. His type was too wide open. even though he attempted to straighten out in Denver with Melo and co, Stern took the opportunity to shit on him in Memphis.

So to the T/S you could say it was half and half. Yeah they blackballed him, but give A.I. a partial percentage of that as well.

I agree with all of this...exactly what I mean. A.I. made the noose but, the NBA kicked the chair extra fuckin hard lol
 
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