Keefe D from Compton Crip says Puffy paid him a Million to kill Tupac and Suge

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It's one thing to be loyal, but Pac took it to another level and got himself killed. It wasnt his fight. Not just Orlando Anderson, but that gang shit in general. He was an outsider and let Suge make him believe he was one of them and untouchable. If he didnt get got that night, he would've gotten it another night. He should've learned the first time he got shot, but he didnt. And Big should've known better. It was dumb for him to thing he could go into L.A. while they were still in mourning and that there wouldnt be consequences. In the end, they both made fatal mistakes.

At least people can finally shut up about illuminati or the government having them killed.
 
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Tsotsi Cape Town;8522445 said:
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T. Sanford;8521774 said:
I blame the girls for the death of 2pac. If they never screamed out their name then the killers wouldn't know, what car they was in.

Lock both of them h*es up for life

Bro it was bound to happen. PAC stepped in the rhelm of being something he wasn't . But the irony of the SSCC's is that they been taking major losses since. And it really makes since they keefe and suge knew each other due to the fact that SSCCs use to be bloods first

Why did they go from bloods to crips? Suge's home boy (I forgot his name) should've handled that instead of telling Pac that Orlando was the one that took his (Suge's home boy) chain. That was straight reckless.

Pressure in the early 80s. You talking travon lane. He from MOB/LPP. Straight succa too. But let me say this I'm a little younger then baby lane ( Orlando Anderson) but he was live with it from all accounts that knew him

I just wondered something. After Death Row beat up Orlando & they went back to the hotel. When Pac told his girlfriend that it's best for her to stay at the hotel that night. Why he didn't throw on his vest?

& If I was Biggie, the only way I would've came back to LA if I was in the same car with Bill Clinton

Niggas wasn't thinking, was on some ignorant shit. Feeling some "I can't be touched" type of shit, BIG was even after Pac died. Not wearing a vest and all...

big shoulda stayed his ass in newyork . He got too cocky and thinking he was good to come out to cali
 
@cain I know everything is speculation but a lot of this is verifiable . When your dealing with any banger nothing is credible . But when speculation is proven with documents that turns into motive and probable cause. At least that's what the DA told me when my codefendants turned redcoats on me
 
What I got from the doc was the LAPD only went through finding out the truth to beat Mrs. Wallace's lawsuit. Diddy and the co-conspirators weren't charged because they didn't/don't give a dam after the lawsuit was dropped.
 
Puff a snake tho straight up. He set the tone for everything to play out like it did. If its true about him offering the 5gs for the d.r. chain. Then putting the money on Pac's life.

Pac should've never tried to live out that gang shit, it makes me wonder if there was any other situations where Pac felt like he had to or wanted to put in work with suge.

During that time the media played it up like suge was this imposing bully and puffy was just a business man who wanted to make music, but that was all bullshit.
 
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Puff a snake tho straight up. He set the tone for everything to play out like it did. If its true about him offering the 5gs for the d.r. chain. Then putting the money on Pac's life.

Pac should've never tried to live out that gang shit, it makes me wonder if there was any other situations where Pac felt like he had to or wanted to put in work with suge.

During that time the media played it up like suge was this imposing bully and puffy was just a business man who wanted to make music, but that was all bullshit.

Puffy really got the innocent role in all of this.
 
I'm guessing big used to get his weed from them niggas when he was out west. Death row probably knew about the bounty puff put out for the death row chain, that's why it was so much venom when death row responded. It's one thing to pop a death row chain off a niggas neck but to be doing it for puffy... That's a whole other issue.

The most fucked up part about it besides losing pac & big was that everyone else affiliated with the situation suffered some type of repercussion, rather it be jail time for other shit or death.

But puffy is doing better than ever and has been since everything went down.
 
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This might sound like a cape for Puff but if it wasn't for Pac and Suge going hard at them niggas from the jump none of this would've took place. Pac was claiming Bad Boy had him shot knowing damn well who did it. Suge was blaming Puff for his boy being killed knowing damn well them BMF niggas did it as well.

Pac and Suge was instigating a war with Bad Boy. Even Pac said he was a Bad Boy killer. Puff made moves to counter the moves Deathrow was making. Puff may have put money on Pac head but if Pac would've never jumped ol boy he would be still be breathing.

Lol Puff always said Bad Boy's move in silence I guess he was lying.

Regardless Pac and Big dead over bull shit

you right about that, it's only so much that people can take before they lash out and retaliate, but saying that is going by the assumption that puff didn't have anything at all to do with the situation at quad studios. I mean if he'd lie about his role in the vegas shooting why wouldn't he lie about his role in what happen in new york? yeah puffy and biggie didn't shoot pac but there was talk that guys like henchmen wanted pac on badboy, and he was disciplined for acting like he was too big which was only supposed to be a robbery just to let him know that he may need guys like bad boy in his corner.

at this point it's all speculation but puffy was/is just as bad as they tried to make suge look.

now it makes sense as to why puff didn't want biggie rapping about pac unless it was hella subliminal because puffy was really pulling some strings to get niggas killed.
 
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Tbh Pac had to do what he had to do. Suge bailed him out and signed Pac so Pac was in debted to Suge. If Pac wouldn't have followed Suge's lead Pac knew the repercussions. It was just all bad after Suge got involved.
 
Yeah nobody else bailed him out. Suge and them "had his back" and were there for him when he needed it. Dude had been in jail it was either ride with them or...not? Not hard to see what happened. "He shoulda just said fck the only people who had his back" huh? This is the real world. It is what it is what kinda vacuum yall think people live in? Also he said Puffand them acted like they knew he was going to get ambushed, like they knew what was going to happen by what happened afterward, their reaction and how they responded. Not as simple as they were simply the ones who set him up. That was in the Vibe interview if Im not mistaken not like I have inside info or know all the details just what was out there for the public. Not that I know.
 
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Suge might've been in Pac's ear about going at them on wax and making it a public spectacle but we can't act like Pac wasn't already airing them out in the Vibe magazine.

People paint Suge as this evil figure, and he did a lot of dirt and fucked a lot of people over, but I refuse to sit here and blame all this on him like he was the mastermind bully of it all. He was in over his head just like Pac was.

Harry-O said it best when describing Suge:

The problem with people that come from the streets but aren't truly entrenched in that lifestyle think that money puts them in a position to change things.
 
tharealest561;8523727 said:
Suge might've been in Pac's ear about going at them on wax and making it a public spectacle but we can't act like Pac wasn't already airing them out in the Vibe magazine.

People paint Suge as this evil figure, and he did a lot of dirt and fucked a lot of people over, but I refuse to sit here and blame all this on him like he was the mastermind bully of it all. He was in over his head just like Pac was.

Harry-O said it best when describing Suge:

The problem with people that come from the streets but aren't truly entrenched in that lifestyle think that money puts them in a position to change things.

one thing I still respect about suge is , he is who he is, you know what it is with suge, not that he's usually right but you pretty much know what to expect.

puffy a ol throw a rock and hide his hand chameleon ass nigga.
 
Wow this shit is fucked up. Pac shouldnt got to Vegas. Pac wasnt a gangsta. He was a conscious militant who tried to act like a gangsta cuz the environment he was surrounded with. Pac is my favorite rapper but he brought his death to his self. Smh if only Pac didnt jump Orlando Anderson.
 
PapaDoc223;8523751 said:
Wow this shit is fucked up. Pac shouldnt got to Vegas. Pac wasnt a gangsta. He was a conscious militant who tried to act like a gangsta cuz the environment he was surrounded with. Pac is my favorite rapper but he brought his death to his self. Smh if only Pac didnt jump Orlando Anderson.

I remember those times real clear, thats when I really got off into rap, it just felt dark and like a negative energy when the shit was going on, almost like a horror flick or some shit, you knew it wouldn't end well, and people was saying pac was going crazy.

knowing what we know now or at least just going off the info in the documentary, would it matter if pac didnt jump orlando when puff supposed to had already put a price tag on them niggas? pac did get retaliated on from putting hands on ol boy but puff put the ticket on his life before all that happen, they was trying to kill two birds with one stone for lack of better words, they thought they'd get back at pac for jumping on baby lane and still do the job for puff all in one swipe.
 

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