Katt Williams says ancestors were cowards for accepting slavery. Right or wrong?

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Fun fact: black people never just “accepted slavery" in America at any point in history..

Came in to say sutten like this.

At what point did we accept slavery? There were numerous rebellions and Lord knows how many runaways, includin' Africans choosin' to die in the sea than live as slaves.

 

[Copper]

 

[alliknowishate]

i aint afraid of death or jail..

so i can imagine me not bein afraid of bein whipped or killed back then..

i turned myself in damn near 10yrs ago..

before i went to see the judge me an my moms sat outside the court and u really gotta hear her tell the story the only way a mother can when it comes to her son..

but i told her there to stop cryin and went on to explain how i saw life and saw us as a people in this country as house slaves or field niggas and i told her im no gonna be neither.. that when i get out that i was gonna be a "runaway slave" and if i get to experience one day of freedom id rot in a casket or jail cell happily then to live my life as a slave..

amd iv been runnin ever since..

So if you a run a way why ain't you kill the master to show your people freedom is possible or is it because that you're scared to die

yeh cause "runaway" slaves killed they masters..

how many masters Harriet Tubman kill idiot!!?

listen.. ur emotions is over riding ur logic at the moment.. otherwise u wouldnt have jus stated this dumb shit..

get out ur feelings nigga.

Aight let me restate. Why ain't you comin back and showin the slaves that freedom is possible. Go to a jail or prison and break them slave niggas out. help them get to a country that won't expedite them. And then you would be on tubman status helping slaves become free

 

[KNiGHTS]

I remember a teacher saying this in so many words. She highlighted how the Native Americans weren't enslaved because at any given moment they would cut off their own limbs to get free. Basically, it made it impossible to make them slaves. She didn't go further just kinda left the lecture on a "Freedom has a step price; some people are more willing to pay for it than others."

On the flip side, I know he's looking at the situation myopically. Plenty of slaves died for freedom as opposed to serving, but everybody ain't built for death. The survivors now may have been part of revolutions that just got snuffed out or, like dude said, not been enslaved around militant slaves who knew how to organize.

Either way, not all the way wrong but not all the way right.

 

[Shizlansky]

I remember a teacher saying this in so many words. She highlighted how the Native Americans weren't enslaved because at any given moment they would cut off their own limbs to get free. Basically, it made it impossible to make them slaves. She didn't go further just kinda left the lecture on a "Freedom has a step price; some people are more willing to pay for it than others."

On the flip side, I know he's looking at the situation myopically. Plenty of slaves died for freedom as opposed to serving, but everybody ain't built for death. The survivors now may have been part of revolutions that just got snuffed out or, like dude said, not been enslaved around militant slaves who knew how to organize.

Either way, not all the way wrong but not all the way right.

Natives wasn't slaves because they were fragile and weak.

 

[Copper]

Indians were made slaves they were just extremely susceptible to European diseases....

 

[kzzl]

I always wondered if its 60 slaves to one white family and about 3 overseers on a farm why didnt most slaves rebel. Shit just never added up to me

Slave masters had a method to that madness. More than likely if a plantation owner had 60 slaves, 55 were already seasoned or bred into it. There's a whole lot of other stuff that could go into that as well.

Our ancestors including cowards just is what it is. Not all of our elders marched with MLK, either. And really, I think people still under estimate what "less than human" truly entailed for our people back then. In an age of deleting tweets, few of us can grasp what kind of brutality really came with that. So yeah, some niggas wasn't bout that life. It happened

 

[jetlifebih]

Harriet Tubman said she would have freed more slaves if they knew they were slaves....I believe her

Most of our ancestors didn't know they were slaves....they weren't trying to escape...

The ones who knew they were slaves, are the ones we read about, the nat turners, Gabriel prossers, etc

So they weren't coward, they were unaware or misinformed

You don't have to conceive of yourself as being a slave to know that getting your ass beat and seeing your loved ones abused is enough reason to want to either fight or run away..... it is much more likely that most slaves were simply too scared to engage in violence and disobedience

or they didn't know how to engage in violence that would result into what they didn't know at the time was freedom...hell by that logic we don't know what freedom is to this day....

people can use katts same logic and say niggas are still cowards because it is known that this happened and people aren't doing shit....

Black people have always fought back, and will continue to fight back

 

[bambu]

That "noble savage" shit is bogus as well......

White folks love to say that the Indians resisted slavery when in fact the native population in America was biologically exploited out of existence..........

 

[CapitalB]

i aint afraid of death or jail..

so i can imagine me not bein afraid of bein whipped or killed back then..

i turned myself in damn near 10yrs ago..

before i went to see the judge me an my moms sat outside the court and u really gotta hear her tell the story the only way a mother can when it comes to her son..

but i told her there to stop cryin and went on to explain how i saw life and saw us as a people in this country as house slaves or field niggas and i told her im no gonna be neither.. that when i get out that i was gonna be a "runaway slave" and if i get to experience one day of freedom id rot in a casket or jail cell happily then to live my life as a slave..

amd iv been runnin ever since..

So if you a run a way why ain't you kill the master to show your people freedom is possible or is it because that you're scared to die

yeh cause "runaway" slaves killed they masters..

how many masters Harriet Tubman kill idiot!!?

listen.. ur emotions is over riding ur logic at the moment.. otherwise u wouldnt have jus stated this dumb shit..

get out ur feelings nigga.

Aight let me restate. Why ain't you comin back and showin the slaves that freedom is possible. Go to a jail or prison and break them slave niggas out. help them get to a country that won't expedite them. And then you would be on tubman status helping slaves become free

it aint my job to save the world my nigga..

its my job to save MY WORLD.. which is those that are under me and come after me..

u got apologists and niggas refusing to accept accountability on behalf of their ancestors fuck i look like goin out my way for the likes??!

they aint ready so they will be left behind..

and i say im a runaway slave for a reason cause im not yet a free man..

but trust when i am ill be goin back to bring others wit me as i now help guide and give game to those who choose not to submit to their oppressor..

niggas think i drop game on here?? i can only say so much but u catch me in the streets and niggas is gettin a full dose straight lace no chaser..

now, never question me again nigga.

 

[CapitalB]

Harriet Tubman said she would have freed more slaves if they knew they were slaves....I believe her

Most of our ancestors didn't know they were slaves....they weren't trying to escape...

The ones who knew they were slaves, are the ones we read about, the nat turners, Gabriel prossers, etc

So they weren't coward, they were unaware or misinformed

You don't have to conceive of yourself as being a slave to know that getting your ass beat and seeing your loved ones abused is enough reason to want to either fight or run away..... it is much more likely that most slaves were simply too scared to engage in violence and disobedience

or they didn't know how to engage in violence that would result into what they didn't know at the time was freedom...hell by that logic we don't know what freedom is to this day....

people can use katts same logic and say niggas are still cowards because it is known that this happened and people aren't doing shit....

Black people have always fought back, and will continue to fight back

marchin and peaceful protesting ASKIN to be treated as a fuckin human bein aint fightin back..

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

Lol lotta dumb niggas in this thread man. shouldn't be be surprised, but I am a little.

 

[jetlifebih]

Harriet Tubman said she would have freed more slaves if they knew they were slaves....I believe her

Most of our ancestors didn't know they were slaves....they weren't trying to escape...

The ones who knew they were slaves, are the ones we read about, the nat turners, Gabriel prossers, etc

So they weren't coward, they were unaware or misinformed

You don't have to conceive of yourself as being a slave to know that getting your ass beat and seeing your loved ones abused is enough reason to want to either fight or run away..... it is much more likely that most slaves were simply too scared to engage in violence and disobedience

or they didn't know how to engage in violence that would result into what they didn't know at the time was freedom...hell by that logic we don't know what freedom is to this day....

people can use katts same logic and say niggas are still cowards because it is known that this happened and people aren't doing shit....

Black people have always fought back, and will continue to fight back

marchin and peaceful protesting ASKIN to be treated as a fuckin human bein aint fightin back..

Hell na, that's begging

it's hard to discuss individuals as a monolith , but There are some fighting back , this fight wasn't just an all out war and we lost...wasn't a boxing match...was never fair, but there have been blows, whether violence, or economics towards the white west, hasn't been much of a fight but there are some who are cowards and there are some who are not and the fight is not over

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Not that this matters to the topic of cowardice and circumstance, but slavery lasted for 245 years on the North American continent proper. The only people that freed themselves were the Haitians against a people that didn't have their civilization there and the Haitians were made to pay with blood money. I wonder what this narrative would look like if european countries didn't abolish slavery on their own?

 

[ineedpussy]

i aint afraid of death or jail..

so i can imagine me not bein afraid of bein whipped or killed back then..

i turned myself in damn near 10yrs ago..

before i went to see the judge me an my moms sat outside the court and u really gotta hear her tell the story the only way a mother can when it comes to her son..

but i told her there to stop cryin and went on to explain how i saw life and saw us as a people in this country as house slaves or field niggas and i told her im no gonna be neither.. that when i get out that i was gonna be a "runaway slave" and if i get to experience one day of freedom id rot in a casket or jail cell happily then to live my life as a slave..

amd iv been runnin ever since..

So if you a run a way why ain't you kill the master to show your people freedom is possible or is it because that you're scared to die

yeh cause "runaway" slaves killed they masters..

how many masters Harriet Tubman kill idiot!!?

listen.. ur emotions is over riding ur logic at the moment.. otherwise u wouldnt have jus stated this dumb shit..

get out ur feelings nigga.

Aight let me restate. Why ain't you comin back and showin the slaves that freedom is possible. Go to a jail or prison and break them slave niggas out. help them get to a country that won't expedite them. And then you would be on tubman status helping slaves become free

it aint my job to save the world my nigga..

its my job to save MY WORLD.. which is those that are under me and come after me..

u got apologists and niggas refusing to accept accountability on behalf of their ancestors fuck i look like goin out my way for the likes??!

they aint ready so they will be left behind..

and i say im a runaway slave for a reason cause im not yet a free man..

but trust when i am ill be goin back to bring others wit me as i now help guide and give game to those who choose not to submit to their oppressor..

niggas think i drop game on here?? i can only say so much but u catch me in the streets and niggas is gettin a full dose straight lace no chaser..

now, never question me again nigga.

gtfoh. never question me again lookin ass. well heres another question then. why didnt you give game to a nigga who asked for help on game? oh i forgot you only help YOU!! We get it bruh you hate blacks too. and we know how that manifested itself.

 

[Ol Jay's]

lol @ hoe ass niggas in their feelings

Niggas are and were cowards, point blank, period

 

[Mr.LV]

I remember a teacher saying this in so many words. She highlighted how the Native Americans weren't enslaved because at any given moment they would cut off their own limbs to get free. Basically, it made it impossible to make them slaves. She didn't go further just kinda left the lecture on a "Freedom has a step price; some people are more willing to pay for it than others."

On the flip side, I know he's looking at the situation myopically. Plenty of slaves died for freedom as opposed to serving, but everybody ain't built for death. The survivors now may have been part of revolutions that just got snuffed out or, like dude said, not been enslaved around militant slaves who knew how to organize.

Either way, not all the way wrong but not all the way right.

Native Americans were dying from blankets with small pox and other diseases Europeans were bringing over to America, so native Americans being slaves in the long run was not feasible.

 

[NoCompetition]

I dont agree with what have been quoted as dude's words here but...its Katt Williams. The dude that got beat up by a kid. and cant get right at all. Disagreeing with him, especially here, is not a bad thing. (That getting beat up by a kid was too cring-worthy to even watch, just the thought considering he's grown). So no I dont see eye to eye with Katt Williams he been on some other sht. But they didnt "accept" it they fought all the way and ended it. Look up Harriett Tubman or Frederick Douglass or others. There are countless examples that arent in history books. On up to the civil war where they fought and ended it. It wasnt white people all of a sudden deciding to be nice they made that happen for themselves too. So no those statements are incorrect...but its Katt Williams again. And on that note I think this is as much attention as I am going to give to a Katt Williams statement.

 

[NoCompetition]

Dude is the opposite of what's the correct answer on this one. No where near the first time for him. (look up numerous arrests) and starting that fight with a child. Etc.

 

[A Talented One]

The whole premise of this thread is so fucking outlandish that i'd knock the T/s out if he said this shit to me.