Jordan and Barkley talk about the new 'big three' *Shots fired*

[Darius]

Jesus Christ...do you nigga's think before you type

really it's that cut and dry??? oh really....saute on this shit for about 5 mn and see why I won't even give it an educated answer

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to me it is. i think Dan Marino is one of the greatest ever, even if the other guys on his team sucked. I don't blame Marino for not winning a title. And i don't plame someone like Moss for signing on to be a receiver for Tom Brady thinking he could win a ring.

 

[eonimod]

Bird didn't even in MVP in the 1981 Finals, Cedric Maxwell did. Your points still don't take away from the fact that they needed other great players. Robert Parish was already on the Celtics, he had been in the league like 5-7 years already. Yall are talking nothing but bullshit

Youngin, being drafted by a team and joining a team are completely diff situations...I think Lebron realized he was more james worthy/scottie pippen, than a michael jordan...I never bought the niggas shoes or jersey so i personally i don't give a fuck...Melo and Wade better in my opinion

 

[peagle05]

to me it is. i think Dan Marino is one of the greatest ever, even if the other guys on his team sucked. I don't blame Marino for not winning a title. And i don't plame someone like Moss for signing on to be a receiver for Tom Brady thinking he could win a ring.

he was traded to the Patriots

 

[john2009]

barkey joined pippen and hakeem for a ring...but da fucked up part was they were all OLD and couldnt do shit........................

 

[Fooley]

Again these 3 situations are all very different. For one, Garnett NEEDED to leave the T'Wolves. The nigga had been loyal to no end. Everybody was calling him downright dumb to stay. Shit even TWolves fans wanted him to leave! You're looking at the baseline of "there being 3 guys who teamed together to win a ship" as justification for your argument and ITS WRONG. The Celtics were three guys that had played there hearts out for their entire careers on teams/franchises that did not deserve their talents. Them nigga's did not have "witnesses" and put in the work that justified a team up. Hence why even Jordan cosigned their move by chilling with them etc. They were all 30 yr old vets that seriously had no other options.

Two Lebron was never going to stay in Cleveland. Nobody is faulting him for not staying. We're faulting the nigga for doing a 1 hr press conference and drawing out the hopes of his city. Everyone knew he wasn't staying in Cleveland beside Cleveland. It was up to Lebron to not let them niggas embarrass themselves as they did this summer. That. Is. All.

That's the exact situation Lebron was trying to avoid. He didn't want to hit 30 with no rings because he had a dumb ass organization around him that didn't get him help. They could have traded for Stoudemire, instead they didn't want to trade JJ Hickson. They trade for like a 33 year old Antawn Jamison. C'mon son, you serious? If Lebron had Kobe's team, he would have 3 rings right now. He wouldn't have lost to the Celtics in 08.

 

[iron man1]

Well I'm still curious to see how they play together I don't fault bron bron for leaving though leavland is no mans land and Boston was not losing in 2008 regardless of who they played that squad was designed for that year

 

[Fooley]

Youngin, being drafted by a team and joining a team are completely diff situations...I think Lebron realized he was more james worthy/scottie pippen, than a michael jordan...I never bought the niggas shoes or jersey so i personally i don't give a fuck...Melo and Wade better in my opinion

Check the stats nigga. I was a big Melo fan, still am, but he ain't fucking with Lebron. Who's to say Miami won't be Lebron's team? He's the better player.

 

[john2009]

Check the stats nigga. I was a big Melo fan, still am, but he ain't fucking with Lebron. Who's to say Miami won't be Lebron's team? He's the better player.

thats wahat i have been saying in otehr threads....melo is better than lebron in terms of heart......not stats...melo and wade actually wanna take da last shot..but LeGone doesnt......

2003 nba draft

1) wade

2) melo

3)LeGone

4)Bosh

5)david West

 

[Darius]

he was traded to the Patriots

true, then maybe someone like Rodney Harrison then

 

[Fooley]

thats wahat i have been saying in otehr threads....melo is better than lebron in terms of heart......not stats...melo and wade actually wanna take da last shot..but LeGone doesnt......

2003 nba draft

1) wade

2) melo

3)LeGone

4)Bosh

5)david West

I seen him hit a game winner against the magic. I've seen him take over against the pistons. I've seen him drop 45 on Pierce. Nothing you niggas say is going to make me believe this dude ain't great. Not to mention dude is an all around player. He can pass, rebound, block shots, and get it on the defensive end. Dude has skills.

 

[peagle05]

I seen him hit a game winner against the magic. I've seen him take over against the pistons. I've seen him drop 45 on Pierce. Nothing you niggas say is going to make me believe this dude ain't great. Not to mention dude is an all around player. He can pass, rebound, block shots, and get it on the defensive end. Dude has skills.

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[garv]

So legacy only matter when it's Kobe but nobody gives a fuck up about legacy?

Word

Exactly double standards.

 

[jay83]

Hey, smartass

Bitter? Bitter? Oh I smell a strong dumb stanley here too. That's a fuckin lie what you've just said, but even if it's true, you still can't do SHIT about it but open a thread/blog or post about it. So type it out, tell us how Jordan really feels, cause you know.

lol. Some of you dudes need to chill out. Go watch his hall of fame speech. And considering Im a "dumb stanley" why are you getting so emotional about it?

Jordan is past greatness. What he has done and accomplished can Never be duplicated.

How is calling Jordan bitter being a stan? lol. A stan for who? Lebron James??? GTFOH.

Like I said, Jordan would never sign with Isiah Thomas or Patrick Ewing because he was so competitive. They were the enemy. The Bulls was his team, and he was not sharing it. It was a mutual hate but respect at the same time. and thats cool.

But the other guys dont want that.

Now I will say Lebron pulled a bitch move for that cheesy 1 hour special and not letting Cleveland know what the deal was. But in the end, he was a free agent and he chose to go to Miami.

You guys need to know what the definition of a stan is, instead of calling random people stans for making an opinion. lol

 

[allied]

So legacy only matter when it's Kobe but nobody gives a fuck up about legacy?

Word

If anyone talks about legacy its not me homie. To me I only analyze legacy when the player is retired. A couple of years ago Kobe couldn't beat the Celtics and couldn't win one w/o Shaq. Now look at him.

 

[jay83]

@jay83

Is Barkley forgetting that he did the same thing when he went to Houston with Hakeem and Clyde?

Barkley my dude but, he always criticizing someone and he ain't got a ring to show for it lol.

lol. yep.

Dont forget him and Scottie pippen were on the same team as well. lol

 

[allied]

Jesus Christ...do you nigga's think before you type

really it's that cut and dry??? oh really....saute on this shit for about 5 mn and see why I won't even give it an educated answer

I see what you're trying to say. The end justifies the means. But my nigga, LOOK AT KOBE. That shit means nooooooooooooothing in the realm of sports. Kobe has 5 rings and nigga's are still going "well he had shaq" "well he had gasol" "mj still has 1 more". Y'all nigga's have short term memories with how sports works. It has nothing to do about "hate" for Lebron. Nigga it's just what you do as a sports analyst.

And I understand what you saying but lets not forget Kobe put pressure on the Lakers asking for a trade if they didn't improve. At the end of the day Lebron choose to go play with his friends in South Beach. Coming where we are we can say he took the easy way out, but I can't fault a man making a decision to better his career. And I'm a Knicks fan who desperately wanted him to come to MSG. So I'm going to take the stance and see how this masterplan looks 4-5 years from now.

 

[usmarin3]

A better question would be, how many of these niggas (current player or retired players) would of gone to Cleveland and play for Dan Gilbert and Danny Ferry. They had 7 years to get it right and still fucked it up, Lebron signed two contracts so you know he wanted to win there. The front office had opportunities to get other players but they were on that high character bullshit and passed on alot of players who could of helped them. How did that character bullshit work out with Jamison.

 

[jrod44]

Fact: Pippen went to ECF without Jordan

Fact: Magic had HIV and Larry a bad back, no one to call.

Fact: Free agency was different then, Jordan signed 8 yr 25 mill deal.

Fact: Kobe went 6 for 24 and won Finals MVP

Fact: Lebron got a triple double and is called LeChoke, Lequit, LeFraud

Fact: You cannot lure FA's to Cleveland

Fact: Miami had a ton of money to give Wade a team, with or without Lebron, hence Lebron potentially could be 30 something with no titles.

Fact: Lebron did not want to go out like Marino.

Opinion: Could be they want the Greatest Team Ever, not so much Greatest Player Ever.

 

[ghost!]

*facepalm* this thread alone has become the whole "reason"...some of the stupidest sh*t has been said up in here...cotdamn!!!

 

[Tommy Billfiger]

Fact: Pippen went to ECF without Jordan
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Fact: Magic had HIV and Larry a bad back, no one to call.

Fact: Free agency was different then, Jordan signed 8 yr 25 mill deal.

Fact: Kobe went 6 for 24 and won Finals MVP

Fact: Lebron got a triple double and is called LeChoke, Lequit, LeFraud

Fact: You cannot lure FA's to Cleveland

Fact: Miami had a ton of money to give Wade a team, with or without Lebron, hence Lebron potentially could be 30 something with no titles.

Fact: Lebron did not want to go out like Marino.

Opinion: Could be they want the Greatest Team Ever, not so much Greatest Player Ever.

Lol @ you sayin it as a fact and it never happened Second round of playoffs aint the ECF

Knicks played pacers in East finals