Joe Budden: “Hip-Hop has the worst audience of all genres.”

[I'm THAT guy...]

ha ha "stanning" or i'm just more knowledgeable then you? An u can find anything using google..i suggest u do the same....so at first he wasnt doing tours over seas..but now doing tours over seas is cuz his career is over? Soo every venue these artist perform in are always state of the art...get your knowledge up

luda for example who is a big artist has come to boston and done shows in rat holes......that doesnt mean anything...tour money is tour money..and "radio stations and madison square garden" was to prove a point which u have no clue what that is.

i never said he didn't tour overseas i simply asked for proof. I'm pretty sure Luda has performed in rat holes, but Buddens is six albums in yet he can't even get his own headliner tour. Yea I missed the radio point since I don't listen nor care what the radio plays. Face it, if Joe Budden was doing fine as you put it he wouldn't even be bringing any of this up, but it's cool though you can resume stanning him he's decent on the mic i'll give him that

 

[The Jackal]

He sounds quite emotional.

 

[ghost!]

yes but in what other genre's do you find different races of artists

hip hop is the only genre with every race in it

there is no asian r n b singer

there is no black country star

there is no puerto rican heavy metal artist

.

^^ dude from hootie and the blow fish....does county music....."slash" from guns n roses is puerto rican or mix in some way....and i wouldnt call lenny kravitz a RnB singer..would you? and the lead singer for rage against the machine is mexican....

 

[ghost!]

i never said he didn't tour overseas i simply asked for proof. I'm pretty sure Luda has performed in rat holes, but Buddens is six albums in yet he can't even get his own headliner tour. Yea I missed the radio point since I don't listen nor care what the radio plays. Face it, if Joe Budden was doing fine as you put it he wouldn't even be bringing any of this up, but it's cool though you can resume stanning him he's decent on the mic i'll give him that

so when someone makes an intelligent point they are stans? I can make that point with any artist...u clearly miss his point cuz you seem really bother'd by it.....

U katz never listen just get upset..just like when nas first said Hip Hop was dead..a lot of katz missing the point and getting upset, all up n arms about it...u doing the samething..like Chris Rock said..."listen..let it swirl around in your head a bit, then comment"

dont mistake knowing what i'm talking about as being a fan....u have no proof of me being a fan other then i make sense..and as u look at my sig..u would see joell ortiz...no joe budden in my avi or a quote from him

so keep showing ur ignorance...u doing a good job at that....understanding is something u cont. to fail in.

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

nahh, most rap fans are white, so i think it's young people in general

this could not be further from the truth....

SO WE REALLY JUST GOING TO IGNORE THAT THIS IS A SOCETIAL ISSUE AFFECTS OUR MUSIC GENRE AND NOT A SOLE MUSIC ISSUE??

WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GROW AND ITS CRAZY BECAUSE HALF OF YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH THAT.

 

[MC The Rapper]

do when someone makes an intelligent point they are stans? I can make the point with any artist...u clearly miss his point cuz you seem really bother by it.....

dont mistake knowing what i'm talking about as being a fan....u have no proof of me being a fan other then i make sense..and as u look at my sig..u would see joell ortiz...no joe budden in my avi or a quote from him

so keep showing ur ignorance...u doing a good job at that....understanding is something u cont. to fail in.

so you aren't a joe budden fan

 

[UPTOWN]

^^ dude from hootie and the blow fish....does county music....."slash" from guns n roses is puerto rican or mix in some way....and i wouldnt call lenny kravitz a RnB singer..would you?

cuzzin ghost lol ... do you think that hootie and the got dam blow fish are any where near garth brooks on the list of country goats?? the whole group wasnt even black lol. slash from guns n roses being 1.28ths latino is laughable, and you tell me what lenny kravits is?? you named 1 person ... literally one person from the other genre's LOL why would you even make that comparison to hip hop ?? LOL dont knit pick cuzzin ... if i say there arent any blacks in hockey, youre really gonna sit here and argue that one black goalie who played four 3 yrs instead of looking at the point abroad??

 

[UPTOWN]

good post ............

thanks cuzzo

royce said mickey facts couldnt help because he was rockin skinny jeans and couldnt move fast enough lol

LOL smh ... this shit dont make sense man LOL

 

[ghost!]

so you aren't a joe budden fan

no....i was a fan right around the time he got sign'd to def jam, then i wasnt interested in him anymore after his first album dropped, i own no mix tape fo his, and any mp3 i got download of him is back when he dropped pump it up and freestyles from around that time and out of slaughterhouse i think he is the worse....

 

[ghost!]

cuzzin ghost lol ... do you think that hootie and the got dam blow fish are any where near garth brooks on the list of country goats?? the whole group wasnt even black lol. slash from guns n roses being 1.28ths latino is laughable, and you tell me what lenny kravits is?? you named 1 person ... literally one person from the other genre's LOL why would you even make that comparison to hip hop ?? LOL dont knit pick cuzzin ... if i say there arent any blacks in hockey, youre really gonna sit here and argue that one black goalie who played four 3 yrs instead of looking at the point abroad??

you said and your exact quote was.."yes but in what other genre's do you find different races of artists

hip hop is the only genre with every race in it

there is no asian r n b singer

there is no black country star

there is no puerto rican heavy metal artist"

the dude from hootie in the blow fish is a country star...he is not on garth level but he is a star..u didnt say he had to be a certain star..and u said there are no puerto rican heavy metal artist...slash and dude from rage against the machine are from a latino descendant...i'm going off your quote not nic picking..those are your words and quotes...

 

[SCRATCHOFF]

In living color was an all black rock band.. and they were pretty successful in the 90s and still tour today with a HELLA loyal fanbase..

GOOGLE THEM

 

[Bwoahmizzee]

Hip Hop is the only genre that lets its fans set trends and decide whats hot smh

pretty much

everybody is a trendsweater instead of a trendsetter

being different used to be a good thing

 

[ghost!]

In living color was an all black rock band.. and they were pretty successful in the 90s and still tour today with a HELLA loyal fanbase..

GOOGLE THEM

thank you...................

 

[Bwoahmizzee]

no....i was a fan right around the time he got sign'd to def jam, then i wasnt interested in him anymore after his first album dropped, i own no mix tape fo his, and any mp3 i got download of him is back when he dropped pump it up and freestyles from around that time and out of slaughterhouse i think he is the worse....

that one cat Joell Ortiz is a beast tho

no derail

 

[UPTOWN]

you said and your exact quote was.."yes but in what other genre's do you find different races of artists

hip hop is the only genre with every race in it

there is no asian r n b singer

there is no black country star

there is no puerto rican heavy metal artist"

the dude from hootie in the blow fish is a country star...he is not on garth level but he is a star..u didnt say he had to be a certain star..and u said there are no puerto rican heavy metal artist...slash and dude from rage against the machine are from a latino descendant...i'm going off your quote not nic picking..those are your words and quotes...

first off i disagree with you

second, since you want to knit pick i said " yes but in what other genre's do you find different races of artists

hip hop is the only genre with every race in it"

you named one single solitary person from country and some supposed partial latinos from rock

how is this an arguement to ." different races of artists"

in hip hop ... every race has an artist. this doesnt happen in any other genre so my point still stands. i never said you will never find not one single black man on earth in any genre outside of hip hop .... and this is why i asked you to just stop knit picking. that wasnt the overall point of what that post was focused on anyway. so the point still stands and it was dumb to address it anyway

 

[NothingButTheTruth]

so he really thinks rock and roll is a "white" genre of music and thus Hendrix was an outsider to the culture?

outside of 16 bars these rappers are fools...

I stand by my statement...

he's a lame and is constantly talking bullshit like a broad...

the appeal of Hendrix and Eminem is not comparable outside of their minority status in their respective genres...

it is intellectually dishonest...

he tries to act like he's all about the art, but he's a cat that tried to be commercial but failed...

I like some of his music but he is a fool...

anyone co signing this clown saying that country music fans are more "savvy" than hip hop fans really need to think about that...

he pretty much shitting on the intelligence of black hip hop fans...

and he is guilty of trying to shit on old school niggas, so I don't get his grandstanding...

matter fact none of those assholes in that room know anything about shit...

and i guess the niggas dont have satellite/internet radio, because their are old school channels...

chill out bruh...

there is a difference between having an opinion and constantly talking shit like a female(which he does)...

you might be a stan if you dont recognize his hypocrisy...

this the same Joe Budden that tried to shit on Wu and Melle Mel...

now he talking about cats not acknowledging Slick Rick...gtfoh...

you are mad confused...

but for the sake of argument, why don't these mythical "white fans who listen to black artists" support black artists like they do Eminem?

This. Cosign 100%.

 

[UPTOWN]

In living color was an all black rock band.. and they were pretty successful in the 90s and still tour today with a HELLA loyal fanbase..

GOOGLE THEM

listen man ... yall are going off on a tagent here. i never said there was never a black man on earth who ever made music outside of hip hop LOL. blacks invented rock n roll. but with the generation gaps etc .. chuck berry does not apply to this conversation. what are we discussing here. yall cant name a handful of people over a 30 year period of rock and roll .. do you really want me to show the diversity in hip hop?? you say hootie and the blow fish and ill say eminem, house of pain, 3rd bass, beastie boys etc etc etc ...do yall really wanna do this??? LOL

 

[ghost!]

first off i disagree with you

second, since you want to knit pick i said " yes but in what other genre's do you find different races of artists

hip hop is the only genre with every race in it"

you named one single solitary person from country and some supposed partial latinos from rock

how is this an arguement to ." different races of artists"

in hip hop ... every race has an artist. this doesnt happen in any other genre so my point still stands. i never said you will never find not one single black man on earth in any genre outside of hip hop .... and this is why i asked you to just stop knit picking. that wasnt the overall point of what that post was focused on anyway. so the point still stands and it was dumb to address it anyway

first off...name me some asian artist and latino artist in hip hop..and superstars at that??? G.brooks level as you argued with me... sec you making a blanket statement saying no other genre that's bullshit cause you dont know all races of every artist in music let alone popular names that most will recognize..what asian artist other then "jen" can you give me that most will recognize? But yet i can give u a dude from hootie and the blow fish...wtf??? and 3rd. come one man..this aint nic picking..i address you on what you said and it's nick picking??...and it's not dumb, u chose to write something and i chose to reply to it..if u dont like u dont have to reply back to me...thank you

do u really wanna do this???

lets not forget you said there's no latino artist in rock, or black artist in country......if u misspoke then say so..but that is also what u quoted and made me reply to you in the first place.

l

 

[genocide_cutter]

People treat hip-hop like a fade now.

 

[American.Loo]

hip hop fans dont respect legends in the game.Even if you dont like their music you can still respect how they were pioneers and changed the game but most hip op fans dont do that.

well put. agreed.