Jesus saved you?

[BiblicalAtheist]

when does a person commitment to God as a Christian start? In this life, or the next?

*hint hint*

It starts here in this life, but it also carries over into the next life aswell.

How did we get our spirit? Was it by extension?

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Even though the people that choose to get saved, the problems/circumstances are not gonna go away instantaneous because you are saved. Saved people will still go through trials and tribulations like an unsaved person...the only difference is that regardless of those trials and tribulations they will depend on God and His Word, no matter how bad it is...the process of walking in faith of God is not for the weak.

So a person would have their spirits saved from separation from god..... how could someone know whether they are saved or not unless they seen their name written in the book of life? Shouldn't it be more of a hope to be saved then?

 

[universaltruth]

So a person would have their spirits saved from separation from god..... how could someone know whether they are saved or not unless they seen their name written in the book of life? Shouldn't it be more of a hope to be saved then?

They dont, they dont know anything, you know this, its all assumptions and one should never assume.

 

[alissowack]

Fair enough, but I still don't see what they are saved from in regards to your post : (

We are saved from God's Wrath.

 

[Rock_Well]

"There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." -John 3:1-7

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Yeah..but it begins by confession with the mouth first, then afterwards the baptism..

that's right! you got it...thank you

it's not just believe, confess Christ, then stop there, you're set for life....we not saved from sins until the moment we go down in the water like GOd said, and come up a new creature! "Then Peter said to them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)

 

[Rock_Well]

How did we get our spirit? Was it by extension?

How? Is, 'God gave it', not a sufficient answer?



"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return to God who gave it."(Ecclesiastes 12:7)

 

[Rock_Well]

So a person would have their spirits saved from separation from god..... how could someone know whether they are saved or not unless they seen their name written in the book of life? Shouldn't it be more of a hope to be saved then?

Trust in God's word, or, FAITH, is what makes it possible to know. With respect to God, we aren't to waver in faith in regards to what He promises us.

Hope applies to things to come , like Heaven, and Jesus return. Hope doesn't apply to things currently REVEALED, which God's word currently reveals what mankind must do to currently be saved.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

How? Is, 'God gave it', not a sufficient answer?



"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return to God who gave it."(Ecclesiastes 12:7)

If it is god given by extension, it is a wonder it could ever be "separate" from god in the first place and need saving.

Trust in God's word, or, FAITH, is what makes it possible to know. With respect to God, we aren't to waver in faith in regards to what He promises us.

Hope applies to things to come , like Heaven, and Jesus return. Hope doesn't apply to things currently REVEALED, which God's word currently reveals what mankind must do to currently be saved.

Saved from separation..... I guess if it still appears you are separate and therefore need to be saved, you truly are separate and in need of saving....

 

[kids in america_]

We share a similar thought on this then. Except maybe for the sin and death part. In what sense do you mean we are being saved from 'sin'

I mean 'god' is cleansing us of our ‘sin’ (unrighteousness) through 'his' spirit; our ‘sins’ are being gradually taken away in order for us to be conformed to ‘his’ image and likeness.

and 'death'?

I was hinting at the resurrection of the dead.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

I mean 'god' is cleansing us of our ‘sin’ (unrighteousness) through 'his' spirit; our ‘sins’ are being gradually taken away in order for us to be conformed to ‘his’ image and likeness.

I was hinting at the resurrection of the dead.

How does that work?

The dead resurrecting, like the decaying/decayed corpses?

 

[supaman4321]

Prophet 'Isa (A.S.) could not save himself and cried out to Allah for help yet people think he can save them?

have you no sense?

 

[Rock_Well]

If it is god given by extension, it is a wonder it could ever be "separate" from god in the first place and need saving.

Well yea...if the understanding and definition of God you hold is as broad as the universe itself i guess so.

Regardless of what your understanding may be, i don't see how that is cause to doubt that God has the power to separate from his presence the spirit he gave us though.

Saved from separation..... I guess if it still appears you are separate and therefore need to be saved, you truly are separate and in need of saving....

Well, tell me if that matches the points being made here:

"And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, we have boldness toward God;" (1 John 3:19-21)

"Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD ponders the hearts" (Proverbs 21:2)

"All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weighs the spirits." (Proverbs 16:2)

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Well yea...if the understanding and definition of God you hold is as broad as the universe itself i guess so.

Regardless of what your understanding may be, i don't see how that is cause to doubt that God has the power to separate from his presence the spirit he gave us though.

Well, tell me if that matches the points being made here:

I am free to hold any view or use any thought to further my understanding. You however, are bound and cannot.

 

[Rock_Well]

I am free to hold any view or use any thought to further my understanding. You however, are bound and cannot.

haha and you just sure it's not the other way around huh?

did it ever occur to you it could be i'm the one that's free, and you the one that's bound to the limited understanding?

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

haha and you just sure it's not the other way around huh?

did it ever occur to you it could be i'm the one that's free, and you the one that's bound to the limited understanding?

If I am free to ask any question and learn from any source, how would I be bound to limited understanding. I am bound by the convictions I hold, but they also do not limit where I gather understanding.