Jay-Z is on some Uncle Tom sh*t

[djraycool]

It dont matter how much money you have, where you live, where u travel, eat, fuck, none of that..If you a real dude ur heart will never change..We can look at Jays whole career from the beginning and see dude never had heart.

 

[Infamous.H_G_C]

Maaaaaaan fuck y'all whiney ass niggas! Y'all don't buy the music, y'all download it anyway! Why SHOULD he cater to y'all? Be lucky he hasn't distanced himself entirely!!

And I can't wait for NaS to just say fuck y'all altogether too. That man's stature SHOULD transcend his music at this point. I hope he branches into the stratosphere! But if he tries to please you losers at the same time, he won't!

 

[Paul Hate.]

Nas is too bi polar for that ...I wanna know why rakim gotta ad for Hennessy...and he goes out and does ads for Hennessy..lmao.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

man that nigga was getting paid from Spade anyways then after that he was seen, pictured drinking cristal again, that nigga was doing it for publicity he's a business man remember

When introduced to factual points of refrence the new jay z detractor will become discombobulated and will not hesitate to spew out fabrications and or flat out inaccuracies .... The new jay z detractor has no conscious when it comes to obtaining the joy they receive from disparaging Shawn Carter.. The new jay z detractor is cold hearted callus and subversive in their approach

When asked to substantiate their claims ... The new jayz detractor disappears into the fine mist

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

Gnauze tried to lynch jigga

You mean the Afro Centric brutha with knowledge of self?

Couldn't have been that guy ....right?

 

[DOPEdweebz]

So Euro Centrism is being well rounded?

If he was really well rounded he'd talk about African history, Asian History, the history of Latinos, the history of indigenous peoples, not just white people.

He makes references to white entertainers, what about James Brown, or Marvin Gaye, or Paul Robeson how often does he big up black legends in his raps or in interviews? He does here and there but not as much as he does white folks. At least he has not in his recent history.

AG was centered around a black mobster played by Denzel, Blueprint all soul samples..

 

[Paul Hate.]

Bp had takeover and that nigga jigga wtf man.

 

[JM1971]

Been saying Jayz on some jigg

Why does it seem like people skim through Jay's stuff and not nitpick other artist the same way as Jay get's criticized. What is it about Jay that causes people to debate with all feelings and assumptions rather than doing research and bringing facts? People get overzealous when criticizing him lol.

If anything, Jay has kept it realer than people give him credit for. I think artist like like Nas has displayed more questionable behavior throughout his career than Jay did. But I guess Nas's "image" or what people "perceive" that he stands for and the fact he's the underdog prevents him from getting nitpicked.

Jayz shitted on just about every nigga that helped him become who he is today. In the same breath he brags in every song about the circle of rich white folks he now hangs with. He writes all his raps about being more successful than us, while reminding black folks they'll never reach his status.

To sum it up he's corporate amerikaz go to nigga. Those rich crackaz know black folks ain't tryna hear whatever they tryna sell. So who better than good ol Jay to put it in a rap and make it "cool". He's basically a high priced puppet

I guess I'm playing devils advocate today lol. According to what you posted, does that confirm what I kind of suspected, that people just don't like Jay on a personal level because of what they "perceive" he did to his friends or he just comes off as sneaky? Does the perception they have of him affect how you or others view his music? And when I say perceive, I'm sure he's done some questionable things, you don't get to half of billion in the business world without making some unpopular choices, great men aren't always "good men" if you know what I mean. From what I've read and heard, the Dame split wasn't as one sided as people would like to believe it was. I've heard enough about Dame, and see how he handles conflict, and everyone distance themselves from him to know that he's no angel either, probably even worse than Jay, but he at least gets the benefit of the doubt, whereas I see people being overzealous and believing every single thing they hear about Jay without questioning. There's two sides to every story. Jay seems self absorbed, and that makes sense because the gripes you tend to hear about him is not what he did to a person, but more of what he DIDN'T do for that person. Jay paid one of Dames tax bills after the split, but that get' overlooked lol.

Jay is still cool with Tye Tye, Kane, Puff, Bleek, Chris, Freeway, Foxy, Irv, Sauce Money, and others. I used to think that Jay was shitting on the listeners in his rhymes, but I've learned that he's actually taking shots at other rappers tbh. Part of the competitive, ego driven spirit of Hip Hop. He basically just uses his albums as a platform to sell whatever brand he's endorsing, respond to criticisms and haters, talk about how he's dealing with success, stunt on his rap peers, and send subliminals. A lot of lines I used to just think were mindless bragging were actually shots at other rappers.

He has more motivational bars than given credit for. Off top, check out the gems he throws in Forever Young, So Ambitious, Murder to Excellence and Beach Chair. "With just a little ambition, this is what you can become here".

 

[DOPEdweebz]

Ya i know Blueprint aint recent but nigga did do an Unplugged a long time ago also starring The Roots...

 

[DR. JEK]

Why does it seem like people skim through Jay's stuff and not nitpick other artist the same way as Jay get's criticized. What is it about Jay that causes people to debate with all feelings and assumptions rather than doing research and bringing facts? People get overzealous when criticizing him lol.

If anything, Jay has kept it realer than people give him credit for. I think artist like like Nas has displayed more questionable behavior throughout his career than Jay did. But I guess Nas's "image" or what people "perceive" that he stands for and the fact he's the underdog prevents him from getting nitpicked.

If you look at how many passes this guy gets in the rap game, the fact you cant even say Reasonable dought was ahhight instead of a classic without jigga warriors coming in with the same tired bullshit in rebutals, the fact that Jay can bite lyrics, nigga name dropped plenty on his albums without catchin any of the heat The Game catch, gets gorified for shit Nas gets crucified over, got niggas actin like cant nobody outrap him on a song even tho Ye does it repeatedly, .....Come on man, for every 1 person that gives him criticism on this site you know there are 3 people ready to sweep it under the rug and dickryde his money, his marriage to Bey, his past sells like that matters if current shit is good or not, and just plain ol "call a nigga a hater when they cant refute nothing effectively" ass posters when they hero gets talked about. Niggas act like Jay z finna send them a check n shit. You can save that Jay gets a raw deal shit because niggas turn this shit into a jay z lifetime achievement award ceremony everytime somebody post something meh about what jay say or did.

I agree, overzealous fans are annoying and they can come off as irrational and difficult to have a civilized debate with. But tbh, I've never seen a thread where someone just said anything Jay made was just "aight", the criticism always seems to be in extremes filled with a lot of misinformation and it's like the OP never does their homework before posting, but there's a tone of conviction with their post and they come off as though what they say is fact.....and anyone who doesn't share their viewpoint is a "stan" or whatever. That's how it looks imo. Everything just seems to be in extremes lol. On that note, I do agree that Reasonable Doubt isn't a true classic just off the strength of the lack of impact it had in 96...but it's his best lyrical effort. You also mentioned that Jay bites lyrics, and that's another critic I don't get. Do people honestly believe that Jay is really trying to pass off those lyrics as his own? Why do people feel that way? I never heard anyone critique that about him until after Ether came out. Dude is smart enough to come up with his own quotes, hot lines, ghostwrite for others, and run successful businesses but he's somehow dumb enough to believe that he can pass off lines from famous songs as his own lol? Every artist in hip hop has quoted another rappers lyrics out of respect. The culture in general is built off sampling period. Jay get's quoted so much that it's crazy, but other rappers aren't under the same microscope I guess. Pac quoted Method Man and CL Smooth lyrics on All Eyes on Me ("I came to bring the pain, hardcore to the brain, lets go inside your gastroplane") ("2 years ago, a friend of mine told me Alize and Cristal blows your mind"). Snoop redid and entire Slick Rick song on Doggy Style, Biggie quote Slick Rick on the Hypnotize chorus. I understand a lot of the other criticism about dude to an extent, but not the whole "he's stealing lyrics" thing. What is the definition of biting, because I've seen stuff that was labeled as biten while a similar act gets a pass.

Game's style is just annoying to me lol, I don't think he's a biter, he name drops because he's a fan of the "the game", hence his name is "Game", but his first album was OD annoying to me because he name dropped back to back in every verse on every single track. That's his style though.

the same way you feel about jay z biting being stupid is the same way i feel about the namedroppin when other people do it. Like jow you feel like game do it excessively is how i feel about what jay does with biggie lyrics. yeah other artist have used other peoples joints as influential but Jay does it overboard with the biggie stuff and like you said, he should be smarter than that to have to keep the crap up from album to album, Nigga you big uped ya brotha already over and over! Reasonable being his best lyrical effort(which i think is also debatable but whatever, for the sake of argument ill let that be) Still shouldnt make it a classic. Canibus had sick lyrics too when 2000 bc dropped but yall didnt let him get away wit just ill spits but wack beats, why does jay get away with it? because he got to be the biggest rapstar out? Is that why niggas can revise history when it comes to Jay? I dont think Jay gets judged too extrem at all on this site. I think he gets coddled. like a lil baby on here. And Im not tryna hate, ive been on record callin blueprint and black album a classic and a very good 4 1/2 mic joint. i dont hate the guy, I just think not everything the guy has said and done careerwise has been condonable or dope

 

[DarthRozay]

lmao what difference does it make what color of entertainers he shouts out? like that's going to make a big deal in the music, "this beat is wack and his flow is off....but he shouted out James Brown and Marvin Gaye! It's a classic! black jay is back no more euro jay!"

 

[JM1971]

Why does it seem like people skim through Jay's stuff and not nitpick other artist the same way as Jay get's criticized. What is it about Jay that causes people to debate with all feelings and assumptions rather than doing research and bringing facts? People get overzealous when criticizing him lol.

If anything, Jay has kept it realer than people give him credit for. I think artist like like Nas has displayed more questionable behavior throughout his career than Jay did. But I guess Nas's "image" or what people "perceive" that he stands for and the fact he's the underdog prevents him from getting nitpicked.

If you look at how many passes this guy gets in the rap game, the fact you cant even say Reasonable dought was ahhight instead of a classic without jigga warriors coming in with the same tired bullshit in rebutals, the fact that Jay can bite lyrics, nigga name dropped plenty on his albums without catchin any of the heat The Game catch, gets gorified for shit Nas gets crucified over, got niggas actin like cant nobody outrap him on a song even tho Ye does it repeatedly, .....Come on man, for every 1 person that gives him criticism on this site you know there are 3 people ready to sweep it under the rug and dickryde his money, his marriage to Bey, his past sells like that matters if current shit is good or not, and just plain ol "call a nigga a hater when they cant refute nothing effectively" ass posters when they hero gets talked about. Niggas act like Jay z finna send them a check n shit. You can save that Jay gets a raw deal shit because niggas turn this shit into a jay z lifetime achievement award ceremony everytime somebody post something meh about what jay say or did.

I agree, overzealous fans are annoying and they can come off as irrational and difficult to have a civilized debate with. But tbh, I've never seen a thread where someone just said anything Jay made was just "aight", the criticism always seems to be in extremes filled with a lot of misinformation and it's like the OP never does their homework before posting, but there's a tone of conviction with their post and they come off as though what they say is fact.....and anyone who doesn't share their viewpoint is a "stan" or whatever. That's how it looks imo. Everything just seems to be in extremes lol. On that note, I do agree that Reasonable Doubt isn't a true classic just off the strength of the lack of impact it had in 96...but it's his best lyrical effort. You also mentioned that Jay bites lyrics, and that's another critic I don't get. Do people honestly believe that Jay is really trying to pass off those lyrics as his own? Why do people feel that way? I never heard anyone critique that about him until after Ether came out. Dude is smart enough to come up with his own quotes, hot lines, ghostwrite for others, and run successful businesses but he's somehow dumb enough to believe that he can pass off lines from famous songs as his own lol? Every artist in hip hop has quoted another rappers lyrics out of respect. The culture in general is built off sampling period. Jay get's quoted so much that it's crazy, but other rappers aren't under the same microscope I guess. Pac quoted Method Man and CL Smooth lyrics on All Eyes on Me ("I came to bring the pain, hardcore to the brain, lets go inside your gastroplane") ("2 years ago, a friend of mine told me Alize and Cristal blows your mind"). Snoop redid and entire Slick Rick song on Doggy Style, Biggie quote Slick Rick on the Hypnotize chorus. I understand a lot of the other criticism about dude to an extent, but not the whole "he's stealing lyrics" thing. What is the definition of biting, because I've seen stuff that was labeled as biten while a similar act gets a pass.

Game's style is just annoying to me lol, I don't think he's a biter, he name drops because he's a fan of the "the game", hence his name is "Game", but his first album was OD annoying to me because he name dropped back to back in every verse on every single track. That's his style though.

the same way you feel about jay z biting being stupid is the same way i feel about the namedroppin when other people do it. Like jow you feel like game do it excessively is how i feel about what jay does with biggie lyrics. yeah other artist have used other peoples joints as influential but Jay does it overboard with the biggie stuff and like you said, he should be smarter than that to have to keep the crap up from album to album, Nigga you big uped ya brotha already over and over! Reasonable being his best lyrical effort(which i think is also debatable but whatever, for the sake of argument ill let that be) Still shouldnt make it a classic. Canibus had sick lyrics too when 2000 bc dropped but yall didnt let him get away wit just ill spits but wack beats, why does jay get away with it? because he got to be the biggest rapstar out? Is that why niggas can revise history when it comes to Jay? I dont think Jay gets judged too extrem at all on this site. I think he gets coddled. like a lil baby on here. And Im not tryna hate, ive been on record callin blueprint and black album a classic and a very good 4 1/2 mic joint. i dont hate the guy, I just think not everything the guy has said and done careerwise has been condonable or dope

Respect.

 

[Infamous.H_G_C]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

I don't understand anyone calling him using bigs lyrics biting when it's rather obvious who's lyrics they are ....isn't biting trying to pass someone else's shit off as your own? What are people really saying when they make claims like that? Are they saying that without those lyrics he wouldn't be where he is now? If not ... The whole point seems rather moot and contrived ....

Bottom line is he considered that man to be his brother and tries to keep his name alive in his lyrics ...

I salute that ... As I know it isn't a thing he's obligated to do ... Its merly an homage to a dear friend and fallen legend

 

[aneed123]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

naw he used a Biggie line on another song on the album too... also I feel like he using Big shit for himself... these youngins dont know Biggies records... Im 31 and Biggie died when I was in 10th grade. Jay smart. the whole biggin up my brother shit been played and he straight up is biting and using a dead mans lyrics and ideas in is own projects.

 

[JDSTAYWITIT]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

naw he used a Biggie line on another song on the album too... also I feel like he using Big shit for himself... these youngins dont know Biggies records... Im 31 and Biggie died when I was in 10th grade. Jay smart. the whole biggin up my brother shit been played and he straight up is biting and using a dead mans lyrics and ideas in is own projects.

This makes total sense .... It's probably why he infused biggies actual vocals on this album so people would know without a shadow of doubt that he is the true originator of those rhymes...this furthering his impeccable standing with these youngins

.......................oh wait

 

[Copper]

how can any man disrespect Belafonte?

as much as he did for black cinema, civil rights and continues to this day to go to prisons and try to help rehabilitate prisoners and try to find them jobs when they get out...

I havent even checked for this shit to be honest with you...But I down loaded banana boat the other day

that beetle juice scene >>> magna camel holy fail

 

[aneed123]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

naw he used a Biggie line on another song on the album too... also I feel like he using Big shit for himself... these youngins dont know Biggies records... Im 31 and Biggie died when I was in 10th grade. Jay smart. the whole biggin up my brother shit been played and he straight up is biting and using a dead mans lyrics and ideas in is own projects.

This makes total sense .... It's probably why he infused biggies actual vocals on this album so people would know without a shadow of doubt that he is the true originator of those rhymes...this furthering his impeccable standing with these youngins

.......................oh wait

u keep being a prick with folk who dont agree with u.... let me ask u this... u really think he big uppin Big with all of lines in songs? when should it end? after he uses all of em? Was he big uppin Pac as well seeing that he didnt like him with Bonnie and Clyde? IMO opinion Jay knows what he is doing and is biting.... we can agree to disagree

 

[Copper]

I think one of the great abuses of this modern time is that we should have had such high-profile artists, powerful celebrities. But they have turned their back on social responsibility. That goes for Jay-Z and Beyoncé, for example. Give me Bruce Springsteen, and now you’re talking.

Belafonte on jay z and beyonce

 

[JM1971]

In my opinion, that's just Jay paying homage to BIG! The way he used big's vocals on Blue wasn't like he was biting, it was almost like a collaboration. It was very artistic! It wasn't just lyrics.

It was almost like "damn my dude, I just had a daughter too and I feel what you were saying now".

At least that's how I took it.

naw he used a Biggie line on another song on the album too... also I feel like he using Big shit for himself... these youngins dont know Biggies records... Im 31 and Biggie died when I was in 10th grade. Jay smart. the whole biggin up my brother shit been played and he straight up is biting and using a dead mans lyrics and ideas in is own projects.

Do you think its because he's unable to come up with his own stuff? Or was the line just that hot to the point where he wants to be seen as the author? What about when Kanye quoted Ghostface on the New God Flow hook or the Ghostface line in Good Life, or J. Cole quoting Jay from Imaginary Player's "Uck Nice Watch" for the hook.....do you think the young folks know about Ghostface and Jay records from the 90's? Were they being smart about it? There's hundreds of other example I can think of with contemporary artist quoting famous 90's rap lines that younger artist wouldn't know about. Not coming at you, I just don't understand the logic behind the thought process.