Jay-Z finally got that "Basquiat" painting he been rapping about..

[GovernmentCheese]

If you think that's impressive, pick up some back issues of Graphotism and you'll blow your own mind.

There's a reason that article you posted up states his art style is being taught to 5 to 9 year olds. That's because that is what his work looks like, something a kid would do.

Now, this to me is impressive graffiti.











Now Basquiat's stuff, which to me looks like messy shit.

That one is meant to be him and Andy Warhol. Which I find hilarious.

As for not respecting a heroin addict who as a grown man painted like child with ADD until he offed himself with an OD, what is there to respect? I don't see skill, talent and the work of an artist, I see what a heroin addict managed to put down on a canvas or a wall in between shooting up. His work is a mess even in the examples you have given. Which doesn't actually impress me because it looks basic as fuck. Which considering he was a high school drop out, ended up with a fucked up arm and had a crazy mom, does explain a lot. However I still think that his art looks like something a you should put on a fridge, not a wall in an art gallery.

He was quoted before his death as saying "Believe it or not I cant actually draw —Jean-Michel Basquiat" and I think that says it all.

Dope graffiti drops.

I may be a little bias because he represents Soho and I be out there all the time, I love it over there. Besides that, he seemed like a cool dude... a lot of the ol' heads over here told me some stories about him and the impact he made in the art world.

Interesting..

That's why my stage name is Soho Fresco but yeah, I just meant he was out there in Soho putting in work in his art studio.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

If you think that's impressive, pick up some back issues of Graphotism and you'll blow your own mind.

There's a reason that article you posted up states his art style is being taught to 5 to 9 year olds. That's because that is what his work looks like, something a kid would do.

Now, this to me is impressive graffiti.











Now Basquiat's stuff, which to me looks like messy shit.

That one is meant to be him and Andy Warhol. Which I find hilarious.

As for not respecting a heroin addict who as a grown man painted like child with ADD until he offed himself with an OD, what is there to respect? I don't see skill, talent and the work of an artist, I see what a heroin addict managed to put down on a canvas or a wall in between shooting up. His work is a mess even in the examples you have given. Which doesn't actually impress me because it looks basic as fuck. Which considering he was a high school drop out, ended up with a fucked up arm and had a crazy mom, does explain a lot. However I still think that his art looks like something a you should put on a fridge, not a wall in an art gallery.

He was quoted before his death as saying "Believe it or not I cant actually draw —Jean-Michel Basquiat" and I think that says it all.

Dope graffiti drops.

I may be a little bias because he represents Soho and I be out there all the time, I love it over there. Besides that, he seemed like a cool dude... a lot of the ol' heads over here told me some stories about him and the impact he made in the art world.

Interesting..

That's why my stage name is Soho Fresco but yeah, I just meant he was out there in Soho putting in work in his art studio.

you any good?

 

[LUClEN]

Damn I can draw in that range, these type of drawings/paintings is worth serious loot? *pulls out paint*

I've noticed that with art often it's more important who drew it and what their story is than the actual piece.

Shots fired at Frida kahlo's unibrow ass

She wasn't going to win any beauty pageants but at least she could actually depict herself half decent in paint, it doesn't look like a hot mess of overlapping crazy bullshit done by a child.

But what it so great about that outside of the fact that it's Frida Kahlo? It does not appear to be that great to me.

It sure as hell is not no Sistine Chapel

 

[dwade206]

Art is subjective tho, one dude spent $43 million for a blue painting with a yellow line going down the middle LOLOL. I aint mad tho, Hov is worth half a billion dollars so he can do stuff like that. Some niggas are sneaker heads, some dudes love watches, some niggas like old school cars, some like art.

I fuck with art a little bit. This is prolly my favorite Basquiat painting:

& it's not his artwork he's renowned for (well part of it is of course) but it's his impact on the art form itself. He was very close to Andy Warhol who was something of a teacher (and I think lover to him but dont quote me on that) but besides their personal lives they represented a new social shift and dynamic in art that would later pave the way for the type of art and grafitti yall see and love today. You just don't realize it. They represented along with cats like Salvadore Dali an abstract art movement and expressionism away from the traditional classical & complex pieces of art popularized by guys like Leonardo DaVinci and Michaelango. Warhol and Basquiat came from the bottom and managed to steal the spotlight from wealthy aristocrats and bring it to their version of the 'hood' if you will. He used his paintings to show the social commentary between things like racism, class injustice, and history which was something not a lot of artists could do and on such a grand scale.

They're bigger than you realize it's just the translation of them gets lost in this day and age of extreme excess and media... *shrugs*

...always liked "Skull"

 

[GovernmentCheese]

If you think that's impressive, pick up some back issues of Graphotism and you'll blow your own mind.

There's a reason that article you posted up states his art style is being taught to 5 to 9 year olds. That's because that is what his work looks like, something a kid would do.

Now, this to me is impressive graffiti.











Now Basquiat's stuff, which to me looks like messy shit.

That one is meant to be him and Andy Warhol. Which I find hilarious.

As for not respecting a heroin addict who as a grown man painted like child with ADD until he offed himself with an OD, what is there to respect? I don't see skill, talent and the work of an artist, I see what a heroin addict managed to put down on a canvas or a wall in between shooting up. His work is a mess even in the examples you have given. Which doesn't actually impress me because it looks basic as fuck. Which considering he was a high school drop out, ended up with a fucked up arm and had a crazy mom, does explain a lot. However I still think that his art looks like something a you should put on a fridge, not a wall in an art gallery.

He was quoted before his death as saying "Believe it or not I cant actually draw —Jean-Michel Basquiat" and I think that says it all.

Dope graffiti drops.

I may be a little bias because he represents Soho and I be out there all the time, I love it over there. Besides that, he seemed like a cool dude... a lot of the ol' heads over here told me some stories about him and the impact he made in the art world.

Interesting..

That's why my stage name is Soho Fresco but yeah, I just meant he was out there in Soho putting in work in his art studio.

you any good?

@Blackgerald yeah, I love making music.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

Damn I can draw in that range, these type of drawings/paintings is worth serious loot? *pulls out paint*

Damn I can draw in that range, these type of drawings/paintings is worth serious loot? *pulls out paint*

No bullshit.....I got rack of bullshit like this on my 3rd grade resume

Gonna have to ask mom's to pull out my grade school drawings and get in the game.

I know i got some grade school work in the attic shit could be worth a few

It wasn't even that funny when the crazy bitch said it first...

So this fuckin cracker out here callin Black women bitches and yall co-signin em?

 

[rip.dilla]

Thread is fucking hilarious with all the feels ..

 

[nillerthekid]

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

In for the moment? Staying hot? The Art world is different from the entertainment industry where artist value depends on their relevance and the whole "what have you done for me now" attitude. Basquiat is one of the the pioneers of Graffiti art and was able to get his work into galleries. His name will forever be hot in the Art community. Not even trying to come at you bro, I just see a lot of ignorance in this thread. It's like people are so quick to knock what they don't understand instead of trying to be open minded.

But your paintings are only as expensive as the buyer wants it to be., if no one is willing to pay top dollar for it, it's not worth it. Like a lot of other parts of hiphop culture graffiti art is the flavor of the month, so prices for things like Basquiat painting can be "unnatural" high for a period of time, but once the "it" factor disappears, the price will fall. Personally I don't see the genius behind his stuff, but if others do, good for them, but thinking paying 4-6 millions for this stuff is a good investment is kinda ignorant yourself. A lot of people has been hot, and will forever be, in the art community, that doesn't mean their work is worth a lot of money.

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

Basquiat died from a heroin overdose..

He most certainly did, and joined Club 27 non the less. Things that elevated his statue as a "hot name" in the art community.

 

[GovernmentCheese]

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

In for the moment? Staying hot? The Art world is different from the entertainment industry where artist value depends on their relevance and the whole "what have you done for me now" attitude. Basquiat is one of the the pioneers of Graffiti art and was able to get his work into galleries. His name will forever be hot in the Art community. Not even trying to come at you bro, I just see a lot of ignorance in this thread. It's like people are so quick to knock what they don't understand instead of trying to be open minded.

But your paintings are only as expensive as the buyer wants it to be., if no one is willing to pay top dollar for it, it's not worth it. Like a lot of other parts of hiphop culture graffiti art is the flavor of the month, so prices for things like Basquiat painting can be "unnatural" high for a period of time, but once the "it" factor disappears, the price will fall. Personally I don't see the genius behind his stuff, but if others do, good for them, but thinking paying 4-6 millions for this stuff is a good investment is kinda ignorant yourself. A lot of people has been hot, and will forever be, in the art community, that doesn't mean their work is worth a lot of money.

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

Basquiat died from a heroin overdose..

He most certainly did, and joined Club 27 non the less. Things that elevated his statue as a "hot name" in the art community.

Jay Geffen sold one of his paintings for 140 million dollars, this is how rich people get richer. This is why they say you have to have money to make money.

It may look stupid from the outside looking in but rich people invest in paintings all the time. Jay Geffen for example but nobody on here wants to bring that up.

Like I said before though, Artwork is a different ball game and it's value only increases. Basquiat is dead bro, he hotlegendary status the moment he died from overdosing.

 

[GovernmentCheese]

Link:http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/arts/design/02drip.html?_r=0

Jay Geffen sold two paintings for a combined 143.5 milli. Nobody wants to bring him up and talk about him investing in paintings all the time though.

This is the painting he sold for 140 Million.

Jay will get his 4.5 M, he actually got the painting for $1.5 mil less than the high end estimate so it's a steal. Jay will probably keep it for years within the family and have it become a family asset with their name attached to it. If the value goes up and they want to sell it, they can. If the value goes down, they can hang onto it until it goes back up again. It's just like owning a stock portfolio.

Basquiat painting sold for 48.8 Million:http://gothamist.com/2013/05/16/this_basquiat_painting_sold_for_488.php

 

[nillerthekid]

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

In for the moment? Staying hot? The Art world is different from the entertainment industry where artist value depends on their relevance and the whole "what have you done for me now" attitude. Basquiat is one of the the pioneers of Graffiti art and was able to get his work into galleries. His name will forever be hot in the Art community. Not even trying to come at you bro, I just see a lot of ignorance in this thread. It's like people are so quick to knock what they don't understand instead of trying to be open minded.

But your paintings are only as expensive as the buyer wants it to be., if no one is willing to pay top dollar for it, it's not worth it. Like a lot of other parts of hiphop culture graffiti art is the flavor of the month, so prices for things like Basquiat painting can be "unnatural" high for a period of time, but once the "it" factor disappears, the price will fall. Personally I don't see the genius behind his stuff, but if others do, good for them, but thinking paying 4-6 millions for this stuff is a good investment is kinda ignorant yourself. A lot of people has been hot, and will forever be, in the art community, that doesn't mean their work is worth a lot of money.

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

Basquiat died from a heroin overdose..

He most certainly did, and joined Club 27 non the less. Things that elevated his statue as a "hot name" in the art community.

Jay Geffen sold one of his paintings for 140 million dollars, this is how rich people get richer. This is why they say you have to have money to make money.

It may look stupid from the outside looking in but rich people invest in paintings all the time. Jay Geffen for example but nobody on here wants to bring that up.

Like I said before though, Artwork is a different ball game and it's value only increases. Basquiat is dead bro, he hotlegendary status the moment he died from overdosing.

I'm not saying you can't make a lot of money of painting, I'm very well aware that it can be quite profitable. Artwork isn't that different than most things, it's worth exactly what the buyer is willing to pay, so in order for you to use it as an investment you have to be able to tell who will be worth more in the future, something you can't guarantee anyone will be, which makes investing in paintings as much as a gamble as any other investment, and not a safe bet. It might be more "dangerous" doing art as an investment, as hype surrounding an artist in the future can't be predicted.

 

[GovernmentCheese]

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

In for the moment? Staying hot? The Art world is different from the entertainment industry where artist value depends on their relevance and the whole "what have you done for me now" attitude. Basquiat is one of the the pioneers of Graffiti art and was able to get his work into galleries. His name will forever be hot in the Art community. Not even trying to come at you bro, I just see a lot of ignorance in this thread. It's like people are so quick to knock what they don't understand instead of trying to be open minded.

But your paintings are only as expensive as the buyer wants it to be., if no one is willing to pay top dollar for it, it's not worth it. Like a lot of other parts of hiphop culture graffiti art is the flavor of the month, so prices for things like Basquiat painting can be "unnatural" high for a period of time, but once the "it" factor disappears, the price will fall. Personally I don't see the genius behind his stuff, but if others do, good for them, but thinking paying 4-6 millions for this stuff is a good investment is kinda ignorant yourself. A lot of people has been hot, and will forever be, in the art community, that doesn't mean their work is worth a lot of money.

Shit is ugly to me but another smart move by Jay, paintings only grow in value making them worth investing in. Ten years later .... $$$$$

Only if the artist "stays hot". Imo using a painting by a relatively new artist as an investment can be dangerous, it will only increase value if Basquiat remains "hot", and could just as well be another in for the moment artist

Basquiat died from a heroin overdose..

He most certainly did, and joined Club 27 non the less. Things that elevated his statue as a "hot name" in the art community.

Jay Geffen sold one of his paintings for 140 million dollars, this is how rich people get richer. This is why they say you have to have money to make money.

It may look stupid from the outside looking in but rich people invest in paintings all the time. Jay Geffen for example but nobody on here wants to bring that up.

Like I said before though, Artwork is a different ball game and it's value only increases. Basquiat is dead bro, he hotlegendary status the moment he died from overdosing.

I'm not saying you can't make a lot of money of painting, I'm very well aware that it can be quite profitable. Artwork isn't that different than most things, it's worth exactly what the buyer is willing to pay, so in order for you to use it as an investment you have to be able to tell who will be worth more in the future, something you can't guarantee anyone will be, which makes investing in paintings as much as a gamble as any other investment, and not a safe bet. It might be more "dangerous" doing art as an investment, as hype surrounding an artist in the future can't be predicted.

True, you went more in depth with your answer this time and it makes a lot more sense. I absolutely get what you're trying to say now and I agree with that. I know it's not a guarantee but I do believe it's good investing in paintings. You just have to know what you're doing but that can be applied to anything you do in life.

 

[aneed123]

Ain't no Damn message besides I'm rich soi can buy it. Jay ain't know what these etch a sketch ass drawings was when he was a nigga in Marcy. This fake as bougie shit is hilarious

 

[freshb651]

i understand everybody saying that Warhol and Basquiat's work is basic because it looks simple,but Art like music

is subjective. The reason that Warhol and Basquiat are greats is because nobody was doing what they did at that

time. Of course you could go "screenprint" some shit for cheap NOW,tons of people do that. But the fact is that's

considered Warhol's style,also having multiple prints of the same drawing/artwork ie the soup cans. These guys are

originators they did it FIRST,and after you do something first of course there's going to be copycats."i can do that"

they say but you didn't do it first.

 

[freshb651]

Radiant Child Jean-Michel Basquiat documentary

 

[playmaker88]

Lol @ that garbage..

 

[lazypakman]

''Real millionaires spend 60 mil on paintings''

- Nasir Jones.

 

[international]

Damn I can draw in that range, these type of drawings/paintings is worth serious loot? *pulls out paint*

Damn I can draw in that range, these type of drawings/paintings is worth serious loot? *pulls out paint*

No bullshit.....I got rack of bullshit like this on my 3rd grade resume

Gonna have to ask mom's to pull out my grade school drawings and get in the game.

I know i got some grade school work in the attic shit could be worth a few

It wasn't even that funny when the crazy bitch said it first...

So this fuckin cracker out here callin Black women bitches and yall co-signin em?

That's how these coons on here be getting down, I'm the one that keeps my foot on that crackas neck and keep him in check, most of the baboons be co-signing this cracka and laughing at his jokes, traces of slavery and white supremacy apparent in their behavior, smh

 

[international]

Btw, lmaooo@ niggaz just now gettin into Jean Michel basquiat, smh@ how much input and influence rappers have on y'all interests and knowledge on art and culture, smfh

 

[international]

Hale Woodruff, Jacob Lawrence and Faith Ringgold deserve more hype than Basquiat in my eyes if we're talking black painters from the last century. Lawrence's style changes over time from era to era got him compared to Van Gogh and I think he deserves more recognition for his work.

Why you feel the need to compare tho? Can't just appreciate every artists work individually, and what they each brought to the table?! Specially with other black painters, like niggas have to be limited and restricted to other niggaz, smh, we stay with this weak ass 'inferiority complex' mentality, put Lawrence up against Van Gogh directly...