Jay better deliver with that next album...

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imILL;3581830 said:
Jay surpassed all of these artist, a loooooooong time ago, tho.
Vo. 1 is very underrated.
Your only naming his low hitting albums. What bout V.2? The Black Album and American Gangster?
No need to even bring up Blueprint and Reasonable Doubt..

Jays catalog is easily comparable to Nas, Pac and Biggies.

I didn't name those other albums because they were good albums which made me even more disappointed in the fuckin garbage he dropped that I did name. I'm not no hater and I say on IC all the time Blueprint and the Black album with the exception of change cloths were classic statue but you're asking me to treat his below average material like they were groundbreaking, Hell no!! And those artist you said he surpassed didn't lay nowhere near as many eggs as Jay over the years and its easy for you to say he surpassed them....niggas got murked and died dummy! Of course he gonna drop more shit. He wasn't surpassing them when they were alive.
 
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jek;3581853 said:
I didn't name those other albums because they were good albums which made me even more disappointed in the fuckin garbage he dropped that I did name. I'm not no hater and I say on IC all the time Blueprint and the Black album with the exception of change cloths were classic statue but you're asking me to treat his below average material like they were groundbreaking, Hell no!! And those artist you said he surpassed didn't lay nowhere near as many eggs as Jay over the years and its easy for you to say he surpassed them....niggas got murked and died dummy! Of course he gonna drop more shit. He wasn't surpassing them when they were alive.

Its not Jays fault Pac got himself murked, and Biggie went back to Cali.

Jay was already trading nice bars with Biggie while he was in his prime.
 
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JayZ is fine. His fans base is set. He can release as many albums as he wants and they'll all go platinum, and his fans will act like it's a classic. Very similar to Em and Wayne.

You're thinking from an objective point of view like he's a new artist or like he's trying to pick up new fans. If we're looking at it from that point of view, then yeah he has to step it WAY up. I wouldn't even think about downloading any of the shit he released since TBA.
 
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Monizzle14;3581834 said:
lol at this nigga jek below writing national honor society essay type shit with caps and bolded shit to actually add an effect to shit. As I stated earlier why do niggas want/expect another fire album from hov. I hate to break it to niggas but you not getting no vol 1,2 or blueprint shit anymore. Niggas want some on the grind gully rap this nigga already relaxing bout to start a fam. If you think jays past few records are wack coo story bruh lol but why would you care unless you were a jay fan. And in the case of being a jay fan listen to his old shit if you wanna hear some classic shit. I swear niggas be on they white plantation owner shit demanding that rappers make specific shit in the field of rap lmaooo.

lmao @ the bolded but c/s

tbh people but jay on this pedestal he can't possibly reach, the shit is impossible for him to satisfy everybody. really though what is he supposed to talk about. he can't talk too much street shit bc he aint there no more, and if he does yall will be the same niggas that say "the fck jay know about the hood". if he becomes socially aware yall will say its just a gimmick for him to reach some missing fans. its a double edged sword for this nigga.

"you only as good as your competition"
 
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Monizzle14;3581834 said:
lol at this nigga jek below writing national honor society essay type shit with caps and bolded shit to actually add an effect to shit. As I stated earlier why do niggas want/expect another fire album from hov. I hate to break it to niggas but you not getting no vol 1,2 or blueprint shit anymore. Niggas want some on the grind gully rap this nigga already relaxing bout to start a fam. If you think jays past few records are wack coo story bruh lol but why would you care unless you were a jay fan. And in the case of being a jay fan listen to his old shit if you wanna hear some classic shit. I swear niggas be on they white plantation owner shit demanding that rappers make specific shit in the field of rap lmaooo.

Yeah you right I was a Jay fan till he started making sell out white kid records, go sit cho Jigga defending ass down somewhere, I got a right to my opinion. You acting like I'm off the topic when I'm basically co signing the sentiments of the TS. I know if I wanna hear his old shit check out his old albums like Jay and you Jigga dickriders like to say...but that still don't change the fact that his quality of rhyming and ear for good beats to rhyme over hasn't suffered like a muthafucka since 03
 
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imILL;3581870 said:
Its not Jays fault Pac got himself murked, and Biggie went back to Cali.
Jay was already trading nice bars with Biggie while he was in his prime.

Say what??? Biggie was murdering Jay on Bk' s finest and lil ghetto boy. I love the dough was a lil better for Jay but still, Overall Big got the best of those collabos, I thought everybody knew that shit Smh
 
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J-Breezy;3581880 said:
lmao @ the bolded but c/s

tbh people but jay on this pedestal he can't possibly reach, the shit is impossible for him to satisfy everybody. really though what is he supposed to talk about. he can't talk too much street shit bc he aint there no more, and if he does yall will be the same niggas that say "the fck jay know about the hood". if he becomes socially aware yall will say its just a gimmick for him to reach some missing fans. its a double edged sword for this nigga.

"you only as good as your competition"

and the funny thing is the reason jay is where he is now is because of his calm attitude. in every possible beef situation the nigga has stuck with facts. When niggas catch 22 his ass he just ignores it and keeps doing him. When niggas talk about how he euro jay the nigga just keeps doing him. at his calm demeanor bring out the bitch nigga in everyone weather fans or haters. look at posters like tomp writing term papers of hate/frustration on sties. Why? because emotional haters of jay know he don't give a fuck and don't take bait. What other nigga could look as camel like as jay z and survive in this game. There are niggas in every hood that are dope rappers but they look like safari animals and will get teased too much to have courage to become famous. But this camel ass nigga can not only survive the hate and jokes but bagged one of the hottest chicks in the game.
 
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jek;3581891 said:
Yeah you right I was a Jay fan till he started making sell out white kid records, go sit cho Jigga defending ass down somewhere, I got a right opinion. You acting like I'm off the topic when I'm basically co signing the sentiments of the TS. I know if I wanna hear his old shit check out his old albums like Jay and you Jigga dickriders like to say...but that still don't change the fact that his quality of rhyming and ear for good beats to rhyme over hasn't suffered like a muthafucka since 03

how am i a jigga dick rider when I am stating facts. If you think the past records are fact you can still listen to his old shit...fact. I said you cant expect classic shit from a nigga whos 40 and as sucessful as jay.....fact. A jay "dickrider" would have said every jay album hot. All I am is staying facts and saying weather you like his shit or not its not going back to how it used to be.....tough break nigga. Life goes on...grow the fuck up lmaooo.Your crybaby essay writing ass cant stay in never never land on some peter pan shit.
 
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imILL;3581870 said:
Its not Jays fault Pac got himself murked, and Biggie went back to Cali.
Jay was already trading nice bars with Biggie while he was in his prime.

And I know its not Jay fault that they died but to act like they death didn't benefit him is crazy and you have to ask yourself if these niggas was way bigger in the streets and on the charts than Jay back then....imagine how much more popular they music and much more sucessful business ventures then Jay they woulda had had they lived to do the same amount of shit Jay did. I'm talking about non rap ventures too. They coulda had 40/40 clubs and mad movies and clothing lines n shit too. You can't just say he surpassed those guys without putting the fact that the stiff comp is no longer there in prospective.
 
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Monizzle14;3581909 said:
how am i a jigga dick rider when I am stating facts. If you think the past records are fact you can still listen to his old shit...fact. I said you cant expect classic shit from a nigga whos 40 and as sucessful as jay.....fact. A jay "dickrider" would have said every jay album hot. All I am is staying facts and saying weather you like his shit or not its not going back to how it used to be.....tough break nigga. Life goes on...grow the fuck up lmaooo.Your crybaby essay writing ass cant stay in never never land on some peter pan shit.

Never never land Peter pan what? Was that a sad ass weak ass attempt to be funny or something? Fuck outta here. Look....you don't have to state the obvious to me....I know we not gonna get the "squeeze first" Jay Z ever again but all I'm tellin you the "Forever Young" Jay Z ain't working for nobody that I know either. So why can't him just hanging it up and retiring be an option? You might not be sayin all his albums is hot but I sure see a lot of people bigging up even his worst shit instead of taking they idols attitude of calling a spade a spade. I liked some of his past albums but the nigga fell the fuck off and I don't know why when I say it, It's like niggas gotta quote my post and give me a lecture like Jay is they family member n shit
 
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jek;3581757 said:
You retarded ass jigga warriors stay in denial and you're bias as fuck with asinine comments like Blueprint 3 was a good album, Really? Fuckin REALLY?!!!! I mean honesty, what was good about it somebody please let me know! Horrible New York tribute, I thought D.O.A was a very forgetable first single and once Wayne rapped on it and killed the same beat on no ceilings I was really ashamed for Jay. THE MAN CAME OUT WITH "FOREVER YOUNG" FOR CRYIN OUT FUCKIN LOUD!!!! That song is unbelievably horrible and don't resemble hip hop and just reeks of wackness,how can yall defend this man after that shit? I just wanna throw up....All this dickriding this man who truth be told has never been consistant from RD to WTT is down right discusting!! I don't know why he gets such a pass for being a wack nigga with low substance but come on now....yall treat this man like he's the king of all kings and he gets outshined allot rapping with other rappers. WTT was a nice Kanye album featuring Jay to me. You niggas condone too much from this man and then wanna nit pick other rappers that are better than him like Nas, Pac, and any Big.....Big L....Big Pun....Notorious, I mean I don't know what's the matter wit you niggas when it comes to this Jay love affair. Vol 1 trash, Blueprint 2 coulda been an ok single album if he deleted like 12 joints and added some heaters with better beats but instead ,,worse double CD of all time. Kingdom Come...terrible and so obscure I can't even name three songs on it AND I ACTUALLY OWNed THE CD before I came to my sences and gave it away. Blueprint 3, shame on anybody that bought that shit and didn't try to get they money back. That's 4 uncondoanable albums from a guy who is suppose to be the GOD mcee. Wow

I dont know whats worse. The fact you believe people gonna read that caps filled novel or the fact you let a stranger get you that emotional. You niggas need to stand up straight and stop bending like a broad.
 
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Who Cares???;3581947 said:
I dont know whats worse. The fact you believe people gonna read that caps filled novel or the fact you let a stranger get you that emotional. You niggas need to stand up straight and stop bending like a broad.

Well you quoted the novel so maybe I'm the one that got yall emotional. Excuse me for thinking I'm talking to some grown ups and not 12 year olds with A.D.D that can't read a little bit. You don't have to agree with what I said but if you can't tell me why Jay don't have to bring it his next album and come wit better shit than forever Young, just scroll past my post or learn how to read past four sentences and shut the fuck up. Save these ol simp ass, gay ass, unfunny jokes about bending over and Peter pan for somebody that give a fuck
 
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am i the only one that loves Blueprint 3 ???? still play it regularly!! thats a great fucking album!!!!
 
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A dope Jay Z album will do. At this point, it's like what else can he do that'll be interesting aside from doing a full blown concept album. Dude has like 10 albums of material and at this point, any album he drops is going to be just another Jay album unless he does something unexpected. Of course, the album will be an event just like any release from major music superstars, but beyond that, it'll get criticized for being the same 'ol, same 'ol or looked at as another good to great Jay album.
 
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the next album could be a surprise. didnt guru say some shit like its gonna be a full concept album? could be dope.

and yeah to all the doubters: if he really fell of and should hang it up, then why y'all still care so much? lol.
 
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