J Cole Is Not A Go Getter..He Ain't A Hustler

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usmarin3;2290600 said:
He raps about progressive shit, ambition and hope. Niggas don't see nothing beyond instant gratification and simple minded shit (bling, money, bitches,etc).

But ain't J Cole fucked like 500 bitches in his 4 mixtapes? Don't a J Cole verse usually sound like..

"Nigga, i fucked your girl, nigga nigga, I fucked you girl, nigga nigga" ?
 
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sionb55;2290594 said:
LOL most niggas judge consistency by the visuals & how much the nigga in their face but never see the groundwork & things behind the scenes. J.Cole is touring the entire world doing shows for like 5000 to 20,000 ppl n shit. Thats a lot better than wat most of these new Freshmen rappers & even established rappers are doin. Far too many rappers fall into the loop of having that hot single & working their lives off around that single to keep that single hot & then themselves but wen sophomore time comes they brick or cant break a 2nd big single cuz the hype they built up for the very first one was too intense. Therefore the audience compares everything to the first big single - your seeing that w/ Wiz Khalifa whom might I say has yet to break another successful single that rivals Black & Yellow.

To combat this I co-sign J.Cole for going out overseas to build the ground work b/c those fans will support him & buy albums. And that type of grind will lead to other opportunities. This isnt 1993 or the early 2000s niggas. He's got critically acclaimed mixtapes & is easily top 3 best lyricists of the new age, him not selling well is laughable to say the least. Lupe Fiasco can sell 200k out the gate & hes more of a B-class artist and he had very little to no promo not to mention it was his weakest effort yet.

Imagine the bread J.Cole is getting from them overseas audiences AND the bread he's getting out here touring with Drake and others. You'd have to be a fool to say the nigga aint a go-getter, this nigga wants it more than everybody else, he's still underground and will go to the furthest ends of the world to rock out to european & chinese audiences n shit. STOP the hatred LOLOL. The old way wasn't working of just throwin artists out there rapid fire w/o artist development, the only niggas who got it rite were/are the country niggas, they groom their artists slowly and THEN put the machine behind them and that big endorsement, thats why Taylor Swift, Garth Brooks & Tim McGraw n shit can do a mil in the first week or drop greatest hits albums for 10+ years and still go multiplatinum....

good buildup & the overseas market = grand success

Man, i'm tryna tell these fools. These rappers out here with these big singles that are bigger than they are, and when they can't follow up the singles, the bandwagon fans end up looking at them like they fell off. Real fanbase and slow burn > bandwagon fans and instant success.
 
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usmarin3;2290600 said:
He raps about progressive shit, ambition and hope. Niggas don't see nothing beyond instant gratification and simple minded shit (bling, money, bitches,etc).

str8 truth

l\listen to his music and you gon say i went through that

or think of something similar

aint no new rapper fucking with his flow or lyrics
 
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usmarin3;2290600 said:
He raps about progressive shit, ambition and hope. Niggas don't see nothing beyond instant gratification and simple minded shit (bling, money, bitches,etc).

i can tell you never met no real niggas

FOREVER92;2290606 said:
this guy catching feelings
first off this guy exactly liek nas with the story tellin
second off im talking bout this guy dont give a fuck bout haven fans and shit he just care bout pushen out dope music

and im not a geek so i wouldnt kno bout geeks sayenn he etehred you

third off who dat was raw as fuck
i bet yo favorite rapper throw subliminals unless waka your hero
it aint a subliminal if you can listen to it and kno what they talking bout

and third off i dont listen to no korn or limp wat ever

i kno more bout hip hop then you young boi

catching feelings?
no, yelawolf, never that
he ain't shit like nas cuz nas has songs like "if i ruled the world" "ether" "made you look" "heaven"
songs that not only display his lyrical prowess but the fact that he can actually make a song worth listening to not only for the quotables
j.cole approaches every song as if he's trying to prove himself and the shit comes off forced and corny
and who dat was wack and quite forgettable
and on top of all that he moves his arms too fuckin much
fuck is wrong with him?
flailing all about and shit like he tryna hail a helicopter from a deserted island his plane just crashed on
 
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ptowndonte;2290607 said:
But ain't J Cole fucked like 500 bitches in his 4 mixtapes? Don't a J Cole verse usually sound like..

"Nigga, i fucked your girl, nigga nigga, I fucked you girl, nigga nigga" ?

He doesn't glorify that shit, it's some everyday college student and regular nigga shit and his music is really balance. You're a straight fucking hater dude, what about the numerous times he speaks about other deep shit about women (abuse, a chick who holds you down, his mom).

You need to chill with the dumb ass generalizations!
 
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sionb55;2290620 said:
Fam dude brings up good points... J.Cole aint just focusing on that rick ross audience he wants EVERYBODY, to do that hes gonna have to represent a non-confrontational and safe look. That lightskin college kid with sick rhymes and aint about the flashy shit that big sean, wale, & others talk about dont sell like it used to. When you have niggas like Drake making albums for women & doin a mil the first week, Lupe Fiasco spitting bout politics doin 200k and then a Dirty Money album about flash & clubbin doin 45k , Raekwon 45k & lloyd banks (who had some of the biggest records in the country) 45k that shit be an instant shock that a change in the audiences tastes in music & content has shifted. Lupe, Drake, Nicki are "safe" & acceptable by the public which in turn helped them sell like that. Wale, Big Sean & shit still talkin that fly n flashy shit but its waterdowned & there isnt anything behind it. J.Cole Does FNL & the internet goes nuts & reviews are all 9s & 10s.... that has significance.... imagine what the album will sound like....

But is J Cole not...

"Your girl was with me...nigga..I fucked your girl....nigga...Nigga nigga nigga, na nigga, na nigga nigga, your girl....nigga...nigga nigga, I'm bout to fuck your girl's girl nigga"
 
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BackInWhite;2290621 said:
i can tell you never met no real niggas

catching feelings?
no, yelawolf, never that
he ain't shit like nas cuz nas has songs like "if i ruled the world" "ether" "made you look" "heaven"
songs that not only display his lyrical prowess but the fact that he can actually make a song worth listening to not only for the quotables
j.cole approaches every song as if he's trying to prove himself and the shit comes off forced and corny
and who dat was wack and quite forgettable
and on top of all that he moves his arms too fuckin much
fuck is wrong with him?
flailing all about and shit like he tryna hail a helicopter from a deserted island his plane just crashed on

I don't hand around niggas, i dont fuck with black folks who put other black people in boxes and define blackness with some negative stereotypes.
 
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usmarin3;2290623 said:
He doesn't glorify that shit, it's some everyday college student and regular nigga shit and his music is really balance. You're a straight fucking hater dude, what about the numerous times he speaks about other deep shit about women (abuse, a chick who holds you down, his mom).

You need to chill with the dumb ass generalizations!

dumb ass generalizations such as the one about niggas not going to college?
you let a chris rock joke define your whole outlook on life and it's sad
you a real live coon
just a shuckin and a jivin for massa
"yessa massa, i'sa a good black mane massa, i'sa black folk, i ain'ts no nigra massa, i'sa wents to skool!"
smgdh
 
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BackInWhite;2290621 said:
i can tell you never met no real niggas

catching feelings?

no, yelawolf, never that

he ain't shit like nas cuz nas has songs like "if i ruled the world" "ether" "made you look" "heaven"

songs that not only display his lyrical prowess but the fact that he can actually make a song worth listening to not only for the quotables

j.cole approaches every song as if he's trying to prove himself and the shit comes off forced and corny

and who dat was wack and quite forgettable

and on top of all that he moves his arms too fuckin much

fuck is wrong with him?

flailing all about and shit like he tryna hail a helicopter from a deserted island his plane just crashed on

i bet you gonna say bubba sparxxs next huh ?

yea nas got them songs

but go head listen to blow up by jcole and tell me that he aint sayen the realest shit in the world

nas is my favorite rapper, so i cann tell the similarities

even nas said jcole the nicest out in a while

who gives a fuck bout him movin his hands and arms weird

that shit was raw...

i just think you dont like jcole

ii guess haven success makes unsuccesful people haters smn
 
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usmarin3;2290623 said:
He doesn't glorify that shit, it's some everyday college student and regular nigga shit and his music is really balance. You're a straight fucking hater dude, what about the numerous times he speaks about other deep shit about women (abuse, a chick who holds you down, his mom).

You need to chill with the dumb ass generalizations!

I need to chill with dumb ass generalizations, but niggas don't go to college?
 
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usmarin3;2290623 said:
He doesn't glorify that shit, it's some everyday college student and regular nigga shit and his music is really balance. You're a straight fucking hater dude, what about the numerous times he speaks about other deep shit about women (abuse, a chick who holds you down, his mom).

You need to chill with the dumb ass generalizations!

Of course he aint gonna mention that because it doesnt help his point.
 
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usmarin3;2290630 said:
I don't hand around niggas, i dont fuck with black folks who put other black people in boxes and define blackness with some negative stereotypes.

YOU JUST DID THE EXACT THING YOU SAID YOU DON'T BE AROUND, NIGGA!
fuck is you contradicting yourself like that for?
 
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FOREVER92;2290637 said:
i bet you gonna say bubba sparxxs next huh ?

yea nas got them songs

but go head listen to blow up by jcole and tell me that he aint sayen the realest shit in the world
nas is my favorite rapper, so i cann tell the similarities
even nas said jcole the nicest out in a while

who gives a fuck bout him movin his hands and arms weird
that shit was raw...
i just think you dont like jcole

ii guess haven success makes unsuccesful people haters smn

if you don't shut yo goofy ass up, snow
informer, she know she gobbily gobbily gobbily glam
a shiggidy boom boom down
 
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ptowndonte;2290638 said:
I need to chill with dumb ass generalizations, but niggas don't go to college?

Niggas and black folks are two different things. If someone is in college, i'm assuming they want better for their lives and their minds are on deep shit than what's on the radio or what the barber shop thinks.
 
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backinwhite;2288809 said:
no, nigga
he is doing what you call "building a fan base"
cole actually has real fans and not these trend hoppers who will abandon him once he doesn't live up to their expectations
he is also going thru what we industry know it alls like to call "artist development"
so many of these new artists get a hit song and get thrown out there without any knowledge of the game or how to recreate that hit
and they become 1 hit wonders
cole will go at least gold in this climate when his album finally does drop and i have no doubt that it will be a classic
you, sir, are ignorant and deserve to be pummeled thusly

lmao!

...............
 
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BackInWhite;2290649 said:
if you don't shut yo goofy ass up, snow

informer, she know she gobbily gobbily gobbily glam

a shiggidy boom boom down

Way to come back with a real response.
 
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BackInWhite;2290640 said:
YOU JUST DID THE EXACT THING YOU SAID YOU DON'T BE AROUND, NIGGA!
fuck is you contradicting yourself like that for?

See above post

Gucci Mane = Nigga
Obama = Black folk
 
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