'I've Got a Pen and I've Got a Phone': Obama's Executive Overreach = Trump's Executive Overreach

[kingblaze84]

I can only imagine what Trump is gonna do with his executive orders. It's gonna be a wild ride next year, I can tell. Let's hope Trump doesn't do something so fucked up that the rest of us are hurt in some way by a foreign nation or his own policies. I can see Trump pissing off North Korea or Iran in the wrong way and all hell breaking loose.

 

[janklow]

I can only imagine what Trump is gonna do with his executive orders. It's gonna be a wild ride next year, I can tell.

which is the point that playmaker88 and raheemclassick seem to miss: it's not about Obama. it's about the fact that granting more and more executive power to Bush or Obama can still be bad even if you LOVED Bush or LOVE Obama as president.

don't see NK being THAT much of an issue (beyond short-term havoc they could create)

 

[kingblaze84]

I can only imagine what Trump is gonna do with his executive orders. It's gonna be a wild ride next year, I can tell.

which is the point that playmaker88 and raheemclassick seem to miss: it's not about Obama. it's about the fact that granting more and more executive power to Bush or Obama can still be bad even if you LOVED Bush or LOVE Obama as president.

don't see NK being THAT much of an issue (beyond short-term havoc they could create)

I see what you're saying. Trump using drones??? BOY OH BOY the Middle East is gonna see some very bloody days. And of course, terrorism will increase, worse then now. I said it first.

 

[Swiffness!]

Yeah yeah, let's wait to see if this Administration sets up Muslim registries or another Cheney style torture gulag archipelago before we start talking that shit.

"ohhhhhh Obama overreached on overtime regulations! That's just as bad as internment camps!" NIGGA PLEASE

 

[b'mer...]

Obama made the right decisions. Cant get congress to do their job, well because congress didnt do their jobs...unless u mean gutting the budget and shutting down the government and not averting the fiscal cliff...

 

[janklow]

Yeah yeah, let's wait to see if this Administration sets up Muslim registries or another Cheney style torture gulag archipelago before we start talking that shit.

i think you're missing the entire point of talking this shit. it's not comparing Obama to Trump. it's saying the acceptance of Obama's executive overreach opens the door for Trump.

remember when Obama was talking about how they needed to clarify rules for drone usage on the off-chance Romney became president? why did it only matter under someone who wasn't Obama?

Obama made the right decisions.

again, it's not about the decisions, it's about the methodology.

 

[b'mer...]

The president didnt declare a war on libya. The war in libya was a response of NATO, not solely the act of the u.s government. It is the presidents job to put the task of better serving the american people first, meaning keeping the government functioning as possible. The difference between the President Obama vs trump or Mr. Romney, is that President Obama is a constitutional lawyer. Both President Obama and Mr. Romney actually served in government and actually know and understand how to ethically execute of the office of commander and chief not as a self-obsorbed, ill tempered 12 yr old boy, without any idea how to hold the highest office in the land. Under trump, twitter will be the vehicle of policy and war..smh!

 

[kingblaze84]

The president didnt declare a war on libya. The war in libya was a response of NATO, not solely the act of the u.s government. It is the presidents job to put the task of better serving the american people first, meaning keeping the government functioning as possible. The difference between the President Obama vs trump or Mr. Romney, is that President Obama is a constitutional lawyer. Both President Obama and Mr. Romney actually served in government and actually know and understand how to ethically execute of the office of commander and chief not as a self-obsorbed, ill tempered 12 yr old boy, without any idea how to hold the highest office in the land. Under trump, twitter will be the vehicle of policy and war..smh!

Trump might have the temper of a child, but Obama was quite reckless in his use of drones too. Obama has helped fan the flames of chaos in the region, and Trump likely will continue to fan the flames as well. Shame on Obama for going along with the carnage that took place in Libya. Obama has been war hungry too.