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It's time to say it......Kanye West is in the same discussion at Big/Nas/Jay/Pac
NothingButTheTruth
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Longevity? He released his first shit in 2004. Stop it 5! That's not longevity.
But anyways...
Kanye > Biggie. 2 albums aint gonna cut it when talking about top lists. Biggie might be a better emcee, but his limited catalog kills him. Anyone can be good for 2 albums.
JayZ >= Kanye. JayZ was certainly better in his prime, but he's falling off HARD. Plus they just released an album where Ye was shittin' on Jay the whole time. One more wack album from Jay and good album from Kanye, and Kanye surpasses him.
Pac > Kanye. Better emcee and still has a catalog comparable to Kanye. The only way Kanye can surpass him is if he keeps releasing great music and becomes a better emcee in the process.
And Nas is the GOAT, so Kanye will never reach that level. He just not as talented as dude, nor does he make better music than dude. Like one of those celebrities said, "Nas is Hip Hop's Marvin Gaye." His music is filled with imagery and truth that will live on forever. We'll be 80 yrs old telling are grand-kids about the street poet. They're already teaching classes and writing books about his lyrics. Plus he's been in the game 20years and he doesn't show any instances of slowing down.
But anyways...
Kanye > Biggie. 2 albums aint gonna cut it when talking about top lists. Biggie might be a better emcee, but his limited catalog kills him. Anyone can be good for 2 albums.
JayZ >= Kanye. JayZ was certainly better in his prime, but he's falling off HARD. Plus they just released an album where Ye was shittin' on Jay the whole time. One more wack album from Jay and good album from Kanye, and Kanye surpasses him.
Pac > Kanye. Better emcee and still has a catalog comparable to Kanye. The only way Kanye can surpass him is if he keeps releasing great music and becomes a better emcee in the process.
And Nas is the GOAT, so Kanye will never reach that level. He just not as talented as dude, nor does he make better music than dude. Like one of those celebrities said, "Nas is Hip Hop's Marvin Gaye." His music is filled with imagery and truth that will live on forever. We'll be 80 yrs old telling are grand-kids about the street poet. They're already teaching classes and writing books about his lyrics. Plus he's been in the game 20years and he doesn't show any instances of slowing down.
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StillFaggyAF
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isayas_2;3824981 said:Kanye is not a great MC. He never like ripped a verse those three did, he does make good music.
he didn't rip "Through The Wire", "Gorgeous", "Power", "Power (Remix)", countless other album cuts, and countless features?
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NothingButTheTruth;3824975 said:Longevity? He released his first shit in 2004. Stop it 5! That's not longevity..
Stop talking. Think about what rappers were hot in 2004. Now....think about what rappers are hot in 2011. Now....press the x button.
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StillFaggyAF
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NothingButTheTruth;3824975 said:Longevity? He released his first shit in 2004. Stop it 5! That's not longevity.
But anyways...
Kanye > Biggie. 2 albums aint gonna cut it when talking about top lists. Biggie might be a better emcee, but his limited catalog kills him. Anyone can be good for 2 albums.
JayZ >= Kanye. JayZ was certainly better in his prime, but he's falling off HARD. Plus they just released an album where Ye was shittin' on Jay the whole time. One more wack album from Jay and good album from Kanye, and Kanye surpasses him.
Pac > Kanye. Better emcee and still has a catalog comparable to Kanye. The only way Kanye can surpass him is if he keeps releasing great music and becomes a better emcee in the process.
And Nas is the GOAT, so Kanye will never reach that level. He jus not as talented as dude, nor does he make better music than dude. Like one of those celebrities said, "Nas is Hip Hop's Marvin Gaye." His music is filled with imagery and truth that will live on forever. We'll be 80 yrs old telling are grand-kids about the street poet. They're already teaching classes and writing books about his lyrics. Plus he's been in the game 20years and he doesn't show any instances of slowing down.
As an artist, Kanye>Biggie, JayZ, Pac, Nas
As an lyricist, Biggie>JayZ>Nas>Kanye>Pac
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idoitforhiphop10
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straightupsho;3825018 said:As an artist, Kanye>Biggie, JayZ, Pac, Nas
As an lyricist, Biggie>JayZ>Nas>Kanye>Pac
how is he a better artist than pac?
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StillFaggyAF
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idoitforhiphop10;3825043 said:how is he a better artist than pac?
did 2pac ever step out of his comfort zone? start producing his own music? use different flows? make album as artistic and musical as College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation, 808s, MBDTF? I think its very obvious that Kanye is a better artist
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NothingButTheTruth
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Rey Negro;3825007 said:Stop talking. Think about what rappers were hot in 2004. Now....think about what rappers are hot in 2011. Now....press the x button.
Rapper's who have more longevity who are pop stars like Kanye:
Jay ('96)
Ludacris ('00)
TI ('01)
Wayne ('99)
Busta Rhymes ('96)
Eminem ('96)
Kanye doesn't have longevity. Also, what does hot have to do with all-time lists? We're talking about the art, not who's most popular. Most popular goes to Tupac and Eminem, because white people go crazy over them.
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If you saying Ye can't be top 5 because he's a lesser MC than the others but, then you include Pac.......you gets the Ed Lover face.
I love Pac but, he ain't lyrical enough to do a Notorious Thugs (Big), The Message (Nas), or Dead Presidents (Jay). Be consistent with your hating.
I love Pac but, he ain't lyrical enough to do a Notorious Thugs (Big), The Message (Nas), or Dead Presidents (Jay). Be consistent with your hating.
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StillFaggyAF
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NothingButTheTruth;3825062 said:Rapper's who have more longevity who are pop stars like Kanye:
Jay ('96)
Ludacris ('00)
TI ('01)
Wayne ('99)
Busta Rhymes ('96)
Eminem ('96)
Kanye doesn't have longevity. Also, what does hot have to do with all-time lists? We're talking about the art, not who's most popular. Most popular goes to Tupac and Eminem, because white people go crazy over them.
lets be real Kanye is more popular than Luda, Busta, and TI
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NothingButTheTruth;3825062 said:Rapper's who have more longevity who are pop stars like Kanye:
Jay ('96)
Ludacris ('00)
TI ('01)
Wayne ('99)
Busta Rhymes ('96)
Eminem ('96)
Kanye doesn't have longevity. Also, what does hot have to do with all-time lists? We're talking about the art, not who's most popular. Most popular goes to Tupac and Eminem, because white people go crazy over them.
u must be trolling
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idoitforhiphop10
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straightupsho;3825060 said:did 2pac ever step out of his comfort zone? start producing his own music? use different flows? make album as artistic and musical as College Dropout, Late Registration, Graduation, 808s, MBDTF? I think its very obvious that Kanye is a better artist
who's to say Pac wouldn't have? He was only in the game for 5 years, while kanye's had 7 years. Dr.Dre's done basically everything you just said, but would you put him over pac?
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straightupsho;3825076 said:lets be real Kanye is more popular than Luda, Busta, and TI
Man...let's be real Luda, Busta have some of the most booty discographies in Hip Hop history.
LOL @ 8 years of being on TOP not being longevity. That's a longer run than 99% of hip hop's artists.
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idoitforhiphop10
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KingdomKame;3825082 said:Ye put out two plat albums in a span of a year
only ones more popular on that list is em
fixed for ya
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KeepinItHundred
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straightupsho;3825018 said:As an artist, Kanye>Biggie, JayZ, Pac, Nas
As an lyricist, Biggie>JayZ>Nas>Kanye>Pac
nas and jay are just as nice, if not nicer than big lyrically.
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idoitforhiphop10;3825105 said:fixed for ya
nah imma give Wayne his credit
sold a bunch of records and was on the radio the whole summer
even though I dont fuck with c4 he's hot right now
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