its almost 2011 and most rappers have yet to become rapper SLASH producers?

[Kame]

Most niggas just dont have the ear or the skill though...

 

[P. Town]

Most niggas just dont have the ear or the skill though...

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[Mrslim1]

Most rapper do it for the money and not the love of music . When you love music you work at your craft at all cost . If Rappers look at Hip Hop more as art form and not a check you will have more Kanye's and 3Stacks etc .

 

[ysl313]

Most rapper do it for the money and not the love of music . When you love music you work at your craft at all cost . If Rappers look at Hip Hop more as art form and not a check you will have more Kanye's and 3Stacks etc .

good example. i understand some don't have the talent but the ear thing is difficult for me to get with. if you love it, you practice and go for every aspect of the culture.

 

[Kame]

good example. i understand some don't have the talent but the ear thing is difficult for me to get with. if you love it, you practice and go for every aspect of the culture.

But for some niggas, no matter how much you produce, your not gonna have that innate ability for picking samples, and overall putting shit together..

 

[ysl313]

But for some niggas, no matter how much you produce, your not gonna have that innate ability for picking samples, and overall putting shit together..

maybe but you'd think we'd have way more doing it by now main stream wise.

 

[Mrslim1]

good example. i understand some don't have the talent but the ear thing is difficult for me to get with. if you love it, you practice and go for every aspect of the culture.

But honestly what do u expect from Hip Hop . From the beginning beats were sampled from other great music , or techno beats or even Go Go beats . There was never and emphasis on MUSICAL creativity outside of the lyrics . If Hip Hop was more like Soul and Rock where u had to create the Music/beat from scratch that would facilitate more musicians and artist in Hip Hop but that never was really the case

 

[5th Letter]

if everybody started making beats then the producing game would become what rap is now.

 

[Jsince90s]

But honestly what do u expect from Hip Hop . From the beginning beats were sampled from other great music , or techno beats or even Go Go beats . There was never and emphasis on MUSICAL creativity outside of the lyrics . If Hip Hop was more like Soul and Rock where u had to create the Music/beat from scratch that would facilitate more musicians and artist in Hip Hop but that never was really the case

You can still compose beats and get very creative, and every genre samples hip hop takes good or bad music and transforms it. You can portray so much off of a sample thats the beauty of it.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Most niggas just dont have the ear or the skill though...

This post sums up the thread.

 

[Mrslim1]

You can still compose beats and get very creative, and every genre samples hip hop takes good or bad music and transforms it. You can portray so much off of a sample thats the beauty of it.

I agree but why not stive for more . Be the person that an Artist samples from instead of the person looking for the perfect sample

 

[Kame]

To tell you the truth, the only people I can think of that play instruments and produce are...

Ryan Leslie
The Neptunes.. (But mostly after they started NERD)
and....
damn I know im missing some people

 

[ysl313]

To tell you the truth, the only people I can think of that play instruments and produce are...

Ryan Leslie
The Neptunes.. (But mostly after they started NERD)
and....
damn I know im missing some people

even they still use samples on occasion...

 

[Mrslim1]

Dont get me wrong there is nothing wring with sampling but if there was more musicianship and instrumentation as a whole the music quality would be so much better

 

[ysl313]

Dont get me wrong there is nothing wring with sampling but if there was more musicianship and instrumentation as a whole the music quality would be so much better

whats wrong with the music quality? dudes have learned to encorprate samples with live instruments now a days anyway...

kanye west showed exactly tha it works greatly on late registration, graduation, and MBDTF

 

[Mrslim1]

whats wrong with the music quality? dudes have learned to encorprate samples with live instruments now a days anyway...

kanye west showed exactly tha it works greatly on late registration, graduation, and MBDTF

Yes it happens now . But only a handful of artist. What I am sayin is that if the genre as a whole would implement more instrumentation and musicianship along with the samples or maybe sometime without . The quality as a whole will rise .

 

[arbitration]

Damn, high level conversation up in here. I definitely agree with t/x, but good points all around.

*Goes back to lurking*

 

[thetruth391]

if everybody started making beats then the producing game would become what rap is now.

real talk mayne

 

[ysl313]

Damn, high level conversation up in here. I definitely agree with t/x, but good points all around.

*Goes back to lurking*

no probz, jsut a thougt in my head...

 

[kzzl]

Most niggas just dont have the ear or the skill though...

^^^^^ This along with the lack of patience to learn. A shame too. Producer's and sound engineer's make a killing off the industry, rappers especially, I hear. They could save lots of money by learning it themselves. Along with make lots of money as well. As well as gain even more control over their sound.