Its a shame that todays music appeals to kids, but the growners dont feel it, i remember a time.

[NoCompetition]

There's a big difference in the rebellion that took place in earlier generations, and the rebellion that effects mine.

Back then, rebellion was against oppressive, small-minded authority. It stood for something, and wasn't just for the hell of it. The youth wanted their voices heard, because they had plenty to say. Everybody is human, so sure, drugs and sex were some of their interests, but in between all that, they had other things to discuss.

Now look at my generation. Their voices are heard loud and clear, but they don't really have much to say. They are literally rebels without a cause. Throwing caution to the wind, ignoring what their parents taught them, and listening to the radio for life lessons.

All that talk about intellectual or more complex music being boring is played. If music has the right vibe, people will get down to it, regardless of it's saying something smart or not. I've been to lounges where the dance floor was packed with people dancing to Outkast, Nas, Slick Rick. Those same people also got down to "Mercy" and Lil' Jon.. So like somebody said earlier, it's about variety.

This is a good point. It aint that people only like "dumb" music (whatever that means). They like what sounds good. Aint no scientific formula to it. Its just somethin you feel. No way to change that. And it aint a region thing because Jay z, Kanye, now Kendrick, Drake, etc, etc., make hits and songs that move people. Its just the South is most prominent in that regard. But a lotta hits have various positive messages in them. Always have. It takes an open mind to catch em sometimes. It could be as simple as handle your business and get out yo hood and have fun. Thats positive too. It be all kinda messages.

 

[damobb2deep]

There's a big difference in the rebellion that took place in earlier generations, and the rebellion that effects mine.

Back then, rebellion was against oppressive, small-minded authority. It stood for something, and wasn't just for the hell of it. The youth wanted their voices heard, because they had plenty to say. Everybody is human, so sure, drugs and sex were some of their interests, but in between all that, they had other things to discuss.

Now look at my generation. Their voices are heard loud and clear, but they don't really have much to say. They are literally rebels without a cause. Throwing caution to the wind, ignoring what their parents taught them, and listening to the radio for life lessons.

All that talk about intellectual or more complex music being boring is played. If music has the right vibe, people will get down to it, regardless of it's saying something smart or not. I've been to lounges where the dance floor was packed with people dancing to Outkast, Nas, Slick Rick. Those same people also got down to "Mercy" and Lil' Jon.. So like somebody said earlier, it's about variety.

key word " lounges"... those are usually 25 n up rite?

 

[Idiopathic Joker]

Kids were popping to "me so horny" back in the day

 

[Lincoln]

key word " lounges"... those are usually 25 n up rite?

I'm 22, it was for my friends 24th birthday, and everybody else there was 21-26, so no.. and I've been to house parties with people younger than me that had similar playlists.

This is a good point. It aint that people only like "dumb" music (whatever that means). They like what sounds good. Aint no scientific formula to it. Its just somethin you feel. No way to change that. And it aint a region thing because Jay z, Kanye, now Kendrick, Drake, etc, etc., make hits and songs that move people. Its just the South is most prominent in that regard. But a lotta hits have various positive messages in them. Always have. It takes an open mind to catch em sometimes. It could be as simple as handle your business and get out yo hood and have fun. Thats positive too. It be all kinda messages.

Exactly. There's no real formula to it. If it vibes, it vibes. And if you try and play something that doesn't vibe, watch how fast the song gets changed. Ask why it was changed and it's almost guaranteed that somebody will say they need something they can dance to. When it comes to club/party music t's pretty much just about the beat and rhythm. The words just help.

 

[CirocObama]

rap has to be the only genre of music that people grow out of

But you know why though? It's because of the dumb shit that gets put out. I already mentioned this but kids just go straight off popularity/hype and anything that's "cool", so they'll like an artist or a song based on this but once they get older and get over that phase they start to decipher music in a much mature way which makes them outgrow that corny rap shit.

Listen you can listen to "Dear Mama" by 2pac even if you're 50 years old. Why? Because the song has content, lyrics and just a good song. Now where is everybody who popped they shit to Hammer or someone like that? Where are his fans, now that his popularity/hype is gone and we're in 2012? They gone. Can you imagine someone listening to "Pumps And A Bump" in 2012 on the reg? But you already know everybody bumps "Dear Mama" or a joint like that. I know the songs are polar opposites but im just sayin.

My point is those popular songs that niggas say they listen in the club is fast-food music. It doesnt hold up well over time. Most of the dumb songs we're talking about are songs yall gonna look back in 10-20 years and be like "i remember when i used to like this lol, wtf was i thinking?" and shit.

 

[damobb2deep]

key word " lounges"... those are usually 25 n up rite?

I'm 22, it was for my friends 24th birthday, and everybody else there was 21-26, so no.. and I've been to house parties with people younger than me that had similar playlists.

This is a good point. It aint that people only like "dumb" music (whatever that means). They like what sounds good. Aint no scientific formula to it. Its just somethin you feel. No way to change that. And it aint a region thing because Jay z, Kanye, now Kendrick, Drake, etc, etc., make hits and songs that move people. Its just the South is most prominent in that regard. But a lotta hits have various positive messages in them. Always have. It takes an open mind to catch em sometimes. It could be as simple as handle your business and get out yo hood and have fun. Thats positive too. It be all kinda messages.

Exactly. There's no real formula to it. If it vibes, it vibes. And if you try and play something that doesn't vibe, watch how fast the song gets changed. Ask why it was changed and it's almost guaranteed that somebody will say they need something they can dance to. When it comes to club/party music t's pretty much just about the beat and rhythm. The words just help.

lol u kno everything in this thread is subjective rite...

 

[Trillaaaaaa]

If you let hip hop or any pop culture raise your kids, then you failed as a parent

Don't blame rappers for the job you ain't doing right

 

[El Payaso]

go to any college across the nation and play that song. Then you'll know what Juicy's fanbase is

Strip club

that too, but you'll be suprised how many whites and Asians students fuck with Juicy J, plus that Taylor Gang connection (most of them, especially up north, never heard of Three 6 Mafia). If Juicy J gets another hit, his album will prolly sell well if Three 6 Mafia fans buy as well

Im a white former student and like Juicy J so I about gave you the cosign.

But that whole people up north not knowing about 3 6 is incorrect, inane, and insane. Your disdain for the yankee has made your argument shaky.

All rhyming aside that shit wont slide. They won an oscar and Memphis is not that far from the "north"

 

[StillFaggyAF]

go to any college across the nation and play that song. Then you'll know what Juicy's fanbase is

Strip club

that too, but you'll be suprised how many whites and Asians students fuck with Juicy J, plus that Taylor Gang connection (most of them, especially up north, never heard of Three 6 Mafia). If Juicy J gets another hit, his album will prolly sell well if Three 6 Mafia fans buy as well

Im a white former student and like Juicy J so I about gave you the cosign.

But that whole people up north not knowing about 3 6 is incorrect, inane, and insane. Your disdain for the yankee has made your argument shaky.

All rhyming aside that shit wont slide. They won an oscar and Memphis is not that far from the "north"

the college age and younger crowd doesn't around me doesn't know who Three 6 Mafia is.

 

[Busta Carmichael]

stop saying it's an age thing and we need to adapt. hip hop sucks point blank. I turned 20 this year i ain't an old nigga. i started hating hip hop at 15

 

[StillFaggyAF]

stop saying it's an age thing and we need to adapt. hip hop sucks point blank. I turned 20 this year i ain't an old nigga. i started hating hip hop at 15

well cool then. Leave this forum then

 

[El Payaso]

@Blackgerald that's ashame. school them.

 

[Melanin_Enriched]

Y'all niggas need to get all the way the fuck out of here with that eminem logic. Ol blame the parents and not the rapper ass niggas. Rappers effects the environment so of course they will influence the kids. Y'all niggas should know this after listening to kendrick lamar's peer pressure.

 

[_Goldie_]

I hope it can revive itself, but as of right now hip hop is on life support...

Would stop it with this. Hip hop is alive and breathing very well. The problem is that we are trying to judge hip hop on one standard. Why would you want to compare Nas to Juicy J??? Just like Juicy J couldn't make a song like daughters, Nas couldn't make a song like Bands Make Her Dance. There are so many categories in hip hop now that it will never die. Its just all about what you prefer. When i'm riding in my car I want Nas or Kendrick Lamar but when i'm out in the club with a drink in my hand tryin to get up on sum pussy, I wanna hear Juicy J lol.

Who da fuck said anything about comparing Nas to Juicy J? And what u didnt notice , u named niggas from the 90s lol. In the 90s there was about 10 - 15 good hip hop artist coming out every year. Nigga we´re lucky if we get 2 per year. 85 % of the artist that are good today are from the 90s or early 2000s. EVERYBODY had a different sound in the 90s, nowadays everybodys doing what the next man is doing, every single has 4 niggas featured on it.

Ur fucking crazy if u think hip hop is alive and breathing very well.

 

[damobb2deep]

Y'all niggas need to get all the way the fuck out of here with that eminem logic. Ol blame the parents and not the rapper ass niggas. Rappers effects the environment so of course they will influence the kids. Y'all niggas should know this after listening to kendrick lamar's peer pressure.

hip hop is a business... culture influences hip hop not the other way around... because if that was da case they wouldnt care about things like "fan bases" and shyt... why u think rappers "cross over" smh..

 

[damobb2deep]

I hope it can revive itself, but as of right now hip hop is on life support...

Would stop it with this. Hip hop is alive and breathing very well. The problem is that we are trying to judge hip hop on one standard. Why would you want to compare Nas to Juicy J??? Just like Juicy J couldn't make a song like daughters, Nas couldn't make a song like Bands Make Her Dance. There are so many categories in hip hop now that it will never die. Its just all about what you prefer. When i'm riding in my car I want Nas or Kendrick Lamar but when i'm out in the club with a drink in my hand tryin to get up on sum pussy, I wanna hear Juicy J lol.

Who da fuck said anything about comparing Nas to Juicy J? And what u didnt notice , u named niggas from the 90s lol. In the 90s there was about 10 - 15 good hip hop artist coming out every year. Nigga we´re lucky if we get 2 per year. 85 % of the artist that are good today are from the 90s or early 2000s. EVERYBODY had a different sound in the 90s, nowadays everybodys doing what the next man is doing, every single has 4 niggas featured on it.

Ur fucking crazy if u think hip hop is alive and breathing very well.

lol u need 2 do yo research if u dont think 90's artist didnt copy other artists...

 

[_Goldie_]

I hope it can revive itself, but as of right now hip hop is on life support...

Would stop it with this. Hip hop is alive and breathing very well. The problem is that we are trying to judge hip hop on one standard. Why would you want to compare Nas to Juicy J??? Just like Juicy J couldn't make a song like daughters, Nas couldn't make a song like Bands Make Her Dance. There are so many categories in hip hop now that it will never die. Its just all about what you prefer. When i'm riding in my car I want Nas or Kendrick Lamar but when i'm out in the club with a drink in my hand tryin to get up on sum pussy, I wanna hear Juicy J lol.

Who da fuck said anything about comparing Nas to Juicy J? And what u didnt notice , u named niggas from the 90s lol. In the 90s there was about 10 - 15 good hip hop artist coming out every year. Nigga we´re lucky if we get 2 per year. 85 % of the artist that are good today are from the 90s or early 2000s. EVERYBODY had a different sound in the 90s, nowadays everybodys doing what the next man is doing, every single has 4 niggas featured on it.

Ur fucking crazy if u think hip hop is alive and breathing very well.

lol u need 2 do yo research if u dont think 90's artist didnt copy other artists...

Nothing is new under the sun, hip hop itself derived from other genres, so of course 90´s niggas was influenced by earlier artist,thats common fucking sense.

But....

3 6 mafia didnt sound like wutang, wutang didnt sound like outkast, outkast didnt sound like mobb deep, mobb deep aint sound UGK, UGK didnt sound like tribe called quest, tribe called quest aint sound like Naughty by nature , and the list goes on...

Name one group in todays hip hop thats fucking with any of those groups....

 

[BarryHalls]

Kendrick Lamar and the TDE camp is the best group to bring real hip hop back to the mainstream. I know grown folks who grew up in the 80s. They dont fuck with todays music but they for dam sure copped Kendrick Lamars album and they said it was a breath of fresh air for todays hip hop in the mainstream.

 

[damobb2deep]

I hope it can revive itself, but as of right now hip hop is on life support...

Would stop it with this. Hip hop is alive and breathing very well. The problem is that we are trying to judge hip hop on one standard. Why would you want to compare Nas to Juicy J??? Just like Juicy J couldn't make a song like daughters, Nas couldn't make a song like Bands Make Her Dance. There are so many categories in hip hop now that it will never die. Its just all about what you prefer. When i'm riding in my car I want Nas or Kendrick Lamar but when i'm out in the club with a drink in my hand tryin to get up on sum pussy, I wanna hear Juicy J lol.

Who da fuck said anything about comparing Nas to Juicy J? And what u didnt notice , u named niggas from the 90s lol. In the 90s there was about 10 - 15 good hip hop artist coming out every year. Nigga we´re lucky if we get 2 per year. 85 % of the artist that are good today are from the 90s or early 2000s. EVERYBODY had a different sound in the 90s, nowadays everybodys doing what the next man is doing, every single has 4 niggas featured on it.

Ur fucking crazy if u think hip hop is alive and breathing very well.

lol u need 2 do yo research if u dont think 90's artist didnt copy other artists...

Nothing is new under the sun, hip hop itself derived from other genres, so of course 90´s niggas was influenced by earlier artist,thats common fucking sense.

But....

3 6 mafia didnt sound like wutang, wutang didnt sound like outkast, outkast didnt sound like mobb deep, mobb deep aint sound UGK, UGK didnt sound like tribe called quest, tribe called quest aint sound like Naughty by nature , and the list goes on...

Name one group in todays hip hop thats fucking with any of those groups....

ok webbie dont sound like gucci... waka dont sound like big sean... chief keef dont sound like drake... and comparing actual groups or duos 2 artist now wont make since cuz niggas aint doin the group thing now... they colab alot but there aint no "ugk's now... or wu tang's... now actual camps? u cant lie n say young money or mmg not as popular or more then the artists u said..

 

[_Goldie_]

I hope it can revive itself, but as of right now hip hop is on life support...

Would stop it with this. Hip hop is alive and breathing very well. The problem is that we are trying to judge hip hop on one standard. Why would you want to compare Nas to Juicy J??? Just like Juicy J couldn't make a song like daughters, Nas couldn't make a song like Bands Make Her Dance. There are so many categories in hip hop now that it will never die. Its just all about what you prefer. When i'm riding in my car I want Nas or Kendrick Lamar but when i'm out in the club with a drink in my hand tryin to get up on sum pussy, I wanna hear Juicy J lol.

Who da fuck said anything about comparing Nas to Juicy J? And what u didnt notice , u named niggas from the 90s lol. In the 90s there was about 10 - 15 good hip hop artist coming out every year. Nigga we´re lucky if we get 2 per year. 85 % of the artist that are good today are from the 90s or early 2000s. EVERYBODY had a different sound in the 90s, nowadays everybodys doing what the next man is doing, every single has 4 niggas featured on it.

Ur fucking crazy if u think hip hop is alive and breathing very well.

lol u need 2 do yo research if u dont think 90's artist didnt copy other artists...

Nothing is new under the sun, hip hop itself derived from other genres, so of course 90´s niggas was influenced by earlier artist,thats common fucking sense.

But....

3 6 mafia didnt sound like wutang, wutang didnt sound like outkast, outkast didnt sound like mobb deep, mobb deep aint sound UGK, UGK didnt sound like tribe called quest, tribe called quest aint sound like Naughty by nature , and the list goes on...

Name one group in todays hip hop thats fucking with any of those groups....

ok webbie dont sound like gucci... waka dont sound like big sean... chief keef dont sound like drake... and comparing actual groups or duos 2 artist now wont make since cuz niggas aint doin the group thing now... they colab alot but there aint no "ugk's now... or wu tang's... now actual camps? u cant lie n say young money or mmg not as popular or more then the artists u said..

Did this nigga just use gucci,webbie,waka,big sean, and chief keef for his argument on how todays hip hop is just as good as the 90s?

what next 2 chainz vs 2pac?

im out ..........