It´s a wrap for Scarface :(

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also, through the years that nigga lil troy name always pop up on some snitch shit on scarface. i wonder if he got something to do with the fed charges.
 
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bmoreeast;2054665 said:
Thats wat i asked. I thought it was only like 4 but he got 13 different child support cases.

@bigrizz i cant say that he doesnt take care of any of his kids my thing is his puttin babies in all these women. And How does all of them put u on c/s?

Thats the life some cats lead....and i wonder if he has gotten paternity tests for all of them. Wouldnt be the first time a ho lied on her pussy. Who else better to hit up for C/S a rapper or a 9-5 nigga?

I just dont see the government letting dude slide for this long and that much paper.....Shit just seems weird. He was the president of Def Jam south for gods sake. And he was doing shows. He couldnt be that hard to find...... Like i said earlier, i hope he kept some receipts. This is making face out to be the WORST deadbeat in history
 
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This shit has me fucked up for real. I've never met anyone who is a bigger Scarface / Geto Boys / Rap-A-Lot fan than myself. I'm 32 years old and this guy has been one of my idols since I was about 13. I've grown up on his music. His music has helped me through some hard times. I could always relate to his music more than anyone else because it let me know that I wasn't the only one in the world that was paranoid and manically depressed. He's never strayed from any subject in his music and interviews, no matter how taboo. I just find it so hard to believe that an intellectual with this man's intelligence would allow himself to be tricked by some no-name, random, gold-digging, scavenger whores. I'm sure they all got pregnant intentionally because they thought he had a lot of money. I'm not trying to make excuses for the man, but he's just as guilty as those ho's. He wanted some pussy, they wanted some money, and in the end, they both got burnt. I hope those sluts never see one penny of that man's money. I do know this, and this is from a credible source - that sealed federal warrant has to do with these cases. It has nothing to do with Scarface being a government informant, or Lil Troy, or any of that old bullshit. And I'm not so sure he's sitting in jail over money. When you miss a court date, they put out a fta (failure to appear) warrant with no bond. That means you will not have a bond until you go to court and the judge reinstates the bond. So, if he's got 3 or 4 fta's, in different cities, it could take a while just to get all the bonds reinstated so he can be bailed out. And I know he owes a lot of money, but if he doesn't have that kind of money, or assets, something is terribly wrong. The man has had several gold and platinum albums, solo and as a member of GB. He was the president of Def Jam South for almost 3 years. He's made money off of endorsements and shit like being on that Def Jam Vendetta video game. I guess if Michael Jackson and Nicholas Cage can go broke, it can happen to anyone, but it's still suspect. I would hope he's got money stashed that he doesn't want the IRS or the courts to find. But even if he is broke, where are all the people he's helped and made money for over the years? Where's Ludacris? J. Prince? Master P? Lyor Cohen? Rick Rubin? Jay-Z? Baby? Lil Wayne? 50 Cent? I know they don't owe him, legally anyway, but where's the loyalty? That ain't mob shit J. You want people to "recognize the mob", then show them one. And I really hope I'm wrong. Maybe these guys weren't aware of the situation until recently and they're working on something even as we speak. I think what pisses me off the most, is that if Face had a hot single on the radio and a highly anticipated album about to drop, I seriously doubt he'd be in this position. I remember right before The Carter 3 came out, every couple of days a new groupie-whore would crawl out of the sewer and tell the world that they were pregnant with another one of Wayne's bastard offspring. Because he was hot at that moment, and making people money, it all got swept under the rug. They probably cut those tricks a check and made them sign a confidentiality agreement saying that they can never publicly mention that Wayne is the father of their child or some shit like that. Out of sight, out of mind.
 
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Id rather see how shit plays out b4 calling him a dumbass. The fed have historically been known to make famous minorities look stupid on purpose. If it aint C/S, its taxes, if not taxes, money laundering. You know that DA hates face for him not helping them fuck J. Prince over...
 
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mattee c;2054861 said:
This shit has me fucked up for real. I've never met anyone who is a bigger Scarface / Geto Boys / Rap-A-Lot fan than myself. I'm 32 years old and this guy has been one of my idols since I was about 13. I've grown up on his music. His music has helped me through some hard times. I could always relate to his music more than anyone else because it let me know that I wasn't the only one in the world that was paranoid and manically depressed. He's never strayed from any subject in his music and interviews, no matter how taboo. I just find it so hard to believe that an intellectual with this man's intelligence would allow himself to be tricked by some no-name, random, gold-digging, scavenger whores. I'm sure they all got pregnant intentionally because they thought he had a lot of money. I'm not trying to make excuses for the man, but he's just as guilty as those ho's. He wanted some pussy, they wanted some money, and in the end, they both got burnt. I hope those sluts never see one penny of that man's money. I do know this, and this is from a credible source - that sealed federal warrant has to do with these cases. It has nothing to do with Scarface being a government informant, or Lil Troy, or any of that old bullshit. And I'm not so sure he's sitting in jail over money. When you miss a court date, they put out a fta (failure to appear) warrant with no bond. That means you will not have a bond until you go to court and the judge reinstates the bond. So, if he's got 3 or 4 fta's, in different cities, it could take a while just to get all the bonds reinstated so he can be bailed out. And I know he owes a lot of money, but if he doesn't have that kind of money, or assets, something is terribly wrong. The man has had several gold and platinum albums, solo and as a member of GB. He was the president of Def Jam South for almost 3 years. He's made money off of endorsements and shit like being on that Def Jam Vendetta video game. I guess if Michael Jackson and Nicholas Cage can go broke, it can happen to anyone, but it's still suspect. I would hope he's got money stashed that he doesn't want the IRS or the courts to find. But even if he is broke, where are all the people he's helped and made money for over the years? Where's Ludacris? J. Prince? Master P? Lyor Cohen? Rick Rubin? Jay-Z? Baby? Lil Wayne? 50 Cent? I know they don't owe him, legally anyway, but where's the loyalty? That ain't mob shit J. You want people to "recognize the mob", then show them one. And I really hope I'm wrong. Maybe these guys weren't aware of the situation until recently and they're working on something even as we speak. I think what pisses me off the most, is that if Face had a hot single on the radio and a highly anticipated album about to drop, I seriously doubt he'd be in this position. I remember right before The Carter 3 came out, every couple of days a new groupie-whore would crawl out of the sewer and tell the world that they were pregnant with another one of Wayne's bastard offspring. Because he was hot at that moment, and making people money, it all got swept under the rug. They probably cut those tricks a check and made them sign a confidentiality agreement saying that they can never publicly mention that Wayne is the father of their child or some shit like that. Out of sight, out of mind.

Your make some valid and pertinent arguments. But nowhere in your response did you mention the true victims of this situation: The Children.
Face is the author of his actions and should have been more responsible. If like you he is aware of the plight of successful black men as relates to "gold digging hoes" then he should have taken greater precautions. His current predicament is a direct result of HIS own inability to act like a responsible adult.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout my years of listening to hip hop is to not hold rappers to the standards they set in their music. Pac died as a result of gang violence, Nas owes millions in back taxes. I respect the message but understand that the messenger is only human and fallible.
 
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And if he failed to appear this means the paternity hasnt been found out yet. What if some of these kids aint his?
 
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bigrizz;2054452 said:
They been wanting dudes locked up. Theres a reason they stopped Prince, Suge and Gotti from having the first black owned music distribution company...Cant have colored folks with too much power

Nigga please. You act like them niggas ain't dirty (well at least Prince and Suge) so don't tryna play that "white men against us" card. Niggas use that WAAAY too much. Most of these CEO's came up with drug money and usually from someone they have to call boss (Michael Harris, Supreme etc) as we all know and do alot of shady shit so it's not always the white men against us. Yeah sometimes it is but niggas STAY sayin' that even when it's the biggest rapist/killer in the world and shit.
 
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bigrizz;2054452 said:
They been wanting dudes locked up. Theres a reason they stopped Prince, Suge and Gotti from having the first black owned music distribution company...Cant have colored folks with too much power

Real business right here

Face is a fool if he knocked all of these chicks up, but I've never heard of someone being held with no bail for Child Support.

This is probably deeper than the back pay he owes b/c feds probably don't give a crap about black females not being able to take care of their children.

J Prince probably doesn't support his artists as much as people think. People think there's loyalty, but Face might feel some type of way if something isn't done to get him out
 
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mattee c;2054861 said:
This shit has me fucked up for real. I've never met anyone who is a bigger Scarface / Geto Boys / Rap-A-Lot fan than myself. I'm 32 years old and this guy has been one of my idols since I was about 13. I've grown up on his music. His music has helped me through some hard times. I could always relate to his music more than anyone else because it let me know that I wasn't the only one in the world that was paranoid and manically depressed. He's never strayed from any subject in his music and interviews, no matter how taboo. I just find it so hard to believe that an intellectual with this man's intelligence would allow himself to be tricked by some no-name, random, gold-digging, scavenger whores. I'm sure they all got pregnant intentionally because they thought he had a lot of money. I'm not trying to make excuses for the man, but he's just as guilty as those ho's. He wanted some pussy, they wanted some money, and in the end, they both got burnt. I hope those sluts never see one penny of that man's money. I do know this, and this is from a credible source - that sealed federal warrant has to do with these cases. It has nothing to do with Scarface being a government informant, or Lil Troy, or any of that old bullshit. And I'm not so sure he's sitting in jail over money. When you miss a court date, they put out a fta (failure to appear) warrant with no bond. That means you will not have a bond until you go to court and the judge reinstates the bond. So, if he's got 3 or 4 fta's, in different cities, it could take a while just to get all the bonds reinstated so he can be bailed out. And I know he owes a lot of money, but if he doesn't have that kind of money, or assets, something is terribly wrong. The man has had several gold and platinum albums, solo and as a member of GB. He was the president of Def Jam South for almost 3 years. He's made money off of endorsements and shit like being on that Def Jam Vendetta video game. I guess if Michael Jackson and Nicholas Cage can go broke, it can happen to anyone, but it's still suspect. I would hope he's got money stashed that he doesn't want the IRS or the courts to find. But even if he is broke, where are all the people he's helped and made money for over the years? Where's Ludacris? J. Prince? Master P? Lyor Cohen? Rick Rubin? Jay-Z? Baby? Lil Wayne? 50 Cent? I know they don't owe him, legally anyway, but where's the loyalty? That ain't mob shit J. You want people to "recognize the mob", then show them one. And I really hope I'm wrong. Maybe these guys weren't aware of the situation until recently and they're working on something even as we speak. I think what pisses me off the most, is that if Face had a hot single on the radio and a highly anticipated album about to drop, I seriously doubt he'd be in this position. I remember right before The Carter 3 came out, every couple of days a new groupie-whore would crawl out of the sewer and tell the world that they were pregnant with another one of Wayne's bastard offspring. Because he was hot at that moment, and making people money, it all got swept under the rug. They probably cut those tricks a check and made them sign a confidentiality agreement saying that they can never publicly mention that Wayne is the father of their child or some shit like that. Out of sight, out of mind.

I think that your lettin your bias as a fan influence your post. I dont see y everybody keeps calling the women names as tho its their fault. Yeah u never know some ppls motives but if your dumb enough to impregnate 13 dif women then that speaks alot on his judgement. Anyone can make a mistake but 13 of them COME ON SON!! And y is it up to J.Prince and other industry ppl to get him out of a situation that he put hisself in. How do we know that Prince may have been telling him to get his shit together and Face wouldnt listen. We keep acting like he's a victim. That niggas not a victim hes just a person whos time has come to face a situation that HE allowed himself to be put in. All them damn kids are the victims.
 
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itsjoey;2054511 said:
Yo, Felicia Gipson went hard like a mofo!! She basically took a big part of his income. Check this out:

Rap-A-Lot:

http://postimage.org/image/bnwdzc4k/

Sony BMG:

http://postimage.org/image/bnzp2144/

Warner Music Group:

http://postimage.org/image/bo1cldlw/

MGM:

http://postimage.org/image/bo4no2lg/

Deep Distribution:

http://postimage.org/image/bo6b7f38/

Lease-A-Lot:

http://postimage.org/image/bo7yqrl0/

UMG Records:

http://postimage.org/image/bo9ma42s/

So from every source of income she took $1900 PER BUSINESS PER MONTH! That´s $15.200 a month! She didnt let my bro Face breathe. Damn!

Anyway, if you want to write face in jail, here is the info you need:

http://postimage.org/image/bob9tgkk/

just for the people that missed this.
 
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aijalon;2054906 said:
Your make some valid and pertinent arguments. But nowhere in your response did you mention the true victims of this situation: The Children.

Face is the author of his actions and should have been more responsible. If like you he is aware of the plight of successful black men as relates to "gold digging hoes" then he should have taken greater precautions. His current predicament is a direct result of HIS own inability to act like a responsible adult.

If there's one thing I've learned throughout my years of listening to hip hop is to not hold rappers to the standards they set in their music. Pac died as a result of gang violence, Nas owes millions in back taxes. I respect the message but understand that the messenger is only human and fallible.

I agree and understand the man is only human and should be held accountable for his actions. But his plight as it relates to gold-digging hoes has way more to do with success than the fact that he's black. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. You think the groupies don't throw themselves at Eminem and wouldn't give their right eye to get pregnant by him? It's a game to them. That's why I say they're just as guilty as Scarface. I guarantee they all knew he was married and already had a family. I do agree the children are the innocent victims. I feel sorry for them because we already know that they're destined for failure based on who their mothers are. To me, it's a crime, for a man and/or a woman, to bring a child into this world if you can't afford to. One of the main things that gets me about this is that if it is true, that makes a lot of his lyrics hypocritical. 'Face often speaks on the continuous cycle of poverty, overcrowding, etc. and here he is contributing to the shit. It's disappointing to say the least.

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CirocObama;2054947 said:
Nigga please. You act like them niggas ain't dirty (well at least Prince and Suge) so don't tryna play that "white men against us" card. Niggas use that WAAAY too much. Most of these CEO's came up with drug money and usually from someone they have to call boss (Michael Harris, Supreme etc) as we all know and do alot of shady shit so it's not always the white men against us. Yeah sometimes it is but niggas STAY sayin' that even when it's the biggest rapist/killer in the world and shit.

I dont pretend to know what business dealing these dudes have. I dont speculate. But i DO know is all these dudes had plans to make the first black owned distribution company and all of a sudden, all 3 were getting fucked with by the feds. Im not an idiot and that shit didnt happen by chance. You must think that because obama is in office racism stopped. The race card still exists. fuck what you heard, 500 years of getting fucked over due to what you were born as aint gonna change overnight.

And supreme didnt front money to start murder inc. Def Jam did. Gotti was Jay-z manager. And it is the white man against us. why you think theres only been one black president. And he aint did shit to improve blacks situation
 
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CirocObama;2054947 said:
Nigga please. You act like them niggas ain't dirty (well at least Prince and Suge) so don't tryna play that "white men against us" card. Niggas use that WAAAY too much. Most of these CEO's came up with drug money and usually from someone they have to call boss (Michael Harris, Supreme etc) as we all know and do alot of shady shit so it's not always the white men against us. Yeah sometimes it is but niggas STAY sayin' that even when it's the biggest rapist/killer in the world and shit.

how u thk these white companies got started?
 
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bigrizz;2055036 said:
I dont pretend to know what business dealing these dudes have. I dont speculate. But i DO know is all these dudes had plans to make the first black owned distribution company and all of a sudden, all 3 were getting fucked with by the feds. Im not an idiot and that shit didnt happen by chance. You must think that because obama is in office racism stopped. The race card still exists. fuck what you heard, 500 years of getting fucked over due to what you were born as aint gonna change overnight.

And supreme didnt front money to start murder inc. Def Jam did. Gotti was Jay-z manager. And it is the white man against us. why you think theres only been one black president. And he aint did shit to improve blacks situation

Posts like this is why we aint NEVER gon reach the mountain top lol smh

Yes, the 'man' is against us...institutionally, inherintly, etc.

BUT, The second we align ourselves wit nggas who sell drugs and have blood on heir hands, we take 10 steps back, and lose all credibility.

Becasue w/ every case of claimin 'its a set up' for police goin after nggas that WE ALL DAMN WELL KNOW R DOIN CRIME, it completely diminshes and KILLS any argument for actual cases of impropriety.

So thank you for adding to the problem
 
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s2jepeka;2055096 said:
Posts like this is why we aint NEVER gon reach the mountain top lol smh

Yes, the 'man' is against us...institutionally, inherintly, etc.

BUT, The second we align ourselves wit nggas who sell drugs and have blood on heir hands, we take 10 steps back, and lose all credibility.

Becasue w/ every case of claimin 'its a set up' for police goin after nggas that WE ALL DAMN WELL KNOW R DOIN CRIME, it completely diminshes and KILLS any argument for actual cases of impropriety.

So thank you for adding to the problem

Dont know who i "aligned" myself with by speaking on facts, but, ok......I just never seen anyone get held over child support. Especially a person the feds have been fucking with for years....They had feds watching every move he made. They tried to hit him with the RICO law.....And they didnt get him
 
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bigrizz;2055126 said:
Dont know who i "aligned" myself with by speaking on facts, but, ok......I just never seen anyone get held over child support. Especially a person the feds have been fucking with for years....They had feds watching every move he made. They tried to hit him with the RICO law.....And they didnt get him

Iv actually met alotta dudes that were arrested on C/S. Iv actually never heard of a case as severe as this one. They dont usually let it get this high. Their usually on it after the first few missed payments. It could be some other shit involved but it sounds like he pretty much fuked hisself up.
 
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damn.. scarface really lost..

and it's all his fault, he didn't know they made condoms?

he ain't know not to buss up in a joint if ur not ready to take care of that baby if she gets pregnant?

I think we need to stop making excuses for this man because he made good music..

he's just a lame for bringing all this on himself..

smh..stoop
 
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