Is the Old Testament god Really God?

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None of these religious scriptures mean anything.. so that would mean anyone off a slave ship can claim to be either Hebrew or Egyptian and be saved regardless if u believe in the scriptures or the old testament god in that case. Bimbo ancestors were on the same ships as yours and his belief that he is Egyptian is by personal opinion and supported by insufficient evidence. So in that case the next man can claim Egyptian as well as agnostic even tho his ancestors were on slave ships. And in that case they wouldn't have to follow old testament law or worship the God which Bimbo does not do..
 
beenwize;4660065 said:
None of these religious scriptures mean anything.. so that would mean anyone off a slave ship can claim to be either Hebrew or Egyptian and be saved regardless if u believe in the scriptures or the old testament god in that case. Bimbo ancestors were on the same ships as yours and his belief that he is Egyptian is by personal opinion and supported by insufficient evidence. So in that case the next man can claim Egyptian as well as agnostic even tho his ancestors were on slave ships. And in that case they wouldn't have to follow old testament law or worship the God which Bimbo does not do..
 
beenwize;4635445 said:
case in point. in my opinion any entity that wants blood sacrifices is not the true god.. i think this scripture in isaiah came from probably the true god. but when you read other scriptures in the old testament another entity had ppl doing sacrifices for sins yet the entity in this verse asks the ppl who told them to do those sacrifices. and that scripture in hebrews i think is another insert by the enity that wants blood sacrifices.

Isaiah 1:11

To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations--I cannot bear your evil assemblies.

Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide my eyes from you: yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

Hebrews 9:22

Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins

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Yahweh - Brutal God of War

"I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create EVIL.

I the LORD do all these things." – Isaiah 45.7.

All cultures have anthropomorphized their gods into humanoid (if sometimes grotesque) form. Were the Jews the exception? Hardly. We know precisely what the Hebrew god looked like. We are, after all, fashioned in his own likeness! "Yahweh", in fact, is an abbreviation of the longer name, "Yahweh Sabaoth." It means, "He who musters armies." Thus Yahweh's name identifies the god primarily as the military leader of the tribe. No wonder the God bequeathed to the world by the Jews turned out to be a monster.

Virgins saved for later use

"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man by sleeping with him. But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves."

A God in Man's Image

"The Lord is a man of war; Yahweh is his name." – Exodus 15.3.

Yahweh was a man, no doubt looking remarkably like the bearded sage asking us to worship him.

If we believe the Bible, he has body parts: eyes and a face (‘they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes’ – Jeremiah 16.17); nose and a mouth (Psalms 18.8); lips, tongue and breath (Isaiah 30.27,33); loins (Ezekiel 1.27); even ‘back parts’ (Exodus 33.23). He also has several ‘human’ emotions, manly appetites, and a worrying disposition towards pathological violence.

Yahweh feels regret for his own evil (‘And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.’ - Jonah 3.10); and grief (at the wickedness of men) (‘and it grieved him at his heart’ - (Genesis 6.6). He actually gets down and wrestles with Jacob, dislocating his thigh (Genesis 32.24). He forgets (he goes on calling Jacob ‘Jacob’ even after re-naming him ‘Israel’ - Genesis 35.10, 46.2). He practises favouritism (choosing the Israelites ‘above all people’ - Exodus 19.5; but he just does not like Cain or Esau!). He holds grudges (‘I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation’ – Exodus 20.5).

For an omniscient god he is surprisingly unknowing (‘They have set up kings, but not by me; they have made princes, and I knew it not.’ – Hosea 8.4). And for an omnipotent god he has his limitations (‘The Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had chariots of iron.’ - Judges 1.19).

And after his creation of the world, he even has to rest from his labour (‘And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work’ - Genesis 2.2) – to the endless bemusement of pagan critics, whose own gods didn’t need to rest!

Carnivore

The most disturbing aspect of Yahweh’s humanoid personality, however, is his blood-lust. The smell of burning flesh is a ‘sweet savour unto the lord’ – so sweet, in fact, that the phrase appears in the Old Testament no fewer than twenty-three times. The butchery demanded by god is truly monumental. Believers are required to sacrifice two lambs day-by-day continuously – and that’s just for starters! Just as well Yahweh had several thousand priests to help him trough through the banquet!

Livestock bears the brunt of god’s appetite but humans could so easily get the chop from the big guy. God kills Uzzah for simply steadying the tumbling Ark (1Chronicles 13.9,10). Poor Onan was zapped for using the withdrawal method of birth control (Genesis 38.10). But such isolated vindictiveness palls in comparison with the mass killings of the Lord. When the autocratic Moses faces a rebellion led by Korah, God uses an earthquake and fire to consume two hundred and fifty rebels. When indignant sympathizers protest at the injustice, God wipes out another fourteen thousand seven hundred with a plague (Numbers 16). What a guy!

 
Kinda funny how the Book of Enoch teaches how the fallen angels taught men how to create weapons and war among each other yet when you read the KIng James Version Bible the Old Testament God is commanding men to make war with each other... Lol

God tells Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.

(Genesis 22.2)

"God put Abraham to the test ... Abraham built an altar ... bound Isaac hand & foot ... took the slaughtering knife to kill his son ... But the angel of the Lord began calling ... 'Do not put out your hand against the boy .... for now I know that you fear the Lord ...' (Genesis 22.1,12)

The story of Isaac is NOT a condemnation of child sacrifice. Isaac was spared not because human sacrifice was seen to be wrong but because Isaac was the "child of promise" and needed to survive. The yarn requires the normality of human sacrifice. Abraham was praised for his willingness to appease Yahweh by killing his own son .The sham murder of Isaac (the 'Aquedah') was the prototype for a 'redemptive sacrificial death' subsequently re-worked as the crucified Jesus.

 
Surprised nobody has yet been able to come against the first video in this thread cuz they are Bible worshippers in FEAR of the god of THIS world.
 
Lol the title makes it sound like God was on vacation and his ass hole brother was fuckin around with the creation machine. Then he comes back and is like ” what the fuck?” Boom New Testament

That is a radical change. It does sound like it's two different beings.
 
Lol the Bible teaches that there is a god of this world and the true god the one Jesus revealed in the New Testament.

2 Corinthians 4:4

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

 
If one reads a so called holy book where it is commanded for grown men to kill infants, elderly, and women in an entire city then why be shocked at what humans do to each other now a days? The Bible has ppl that are commanded to assemble into a army and make war with another group of ppl then you wonder why humans are still having wars with each other?

Revelation 12:9

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
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unspoken respect;4723560 said:
Lol the title makes it sound like God was on vacation and his ass hole brother was fuckin around with the creation machine. Then he comes back and is like ” what the fuck?” Boom New Testament

That is a radical change. It does sound like it's two different beings.

you have eyes to see and ears to hear..

 


2 Corinthians 3:13-20

King James Version (KJV)

13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.

16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

 
beenwize;4723553 said:
Surprised nobody has yet been able to come against the first video in this thread cuz they are Bible worshippers in FEAR of the god of THIS world.

Are you serious do you ever research the people who you take for truth, go research those people in that video and come back so we can talk about them
 
waterproof;4723636 said:
beenwize;4723553 said:
Surprised nobody has yet been able to come against the first video in this thread cuz they are Bible worshippers in FEAR of the god of THIS world.

Are you serious do you ever research the people who you take for truth, go research those people in that video and come back so we can talk about them

I don't take ppl for truth.. I take truth for truth.

 
All animal sacrifices are by their nature sacrifices to demons.

Baruch quotes directly from the Book of Enoch.

"Sacrificing to Demons as Gods" is from the Book of Enoch.

"(S)acrificing to demons and not to God" is from "Baruch."
 


Teaching ppl the use of a weapon..

2 Samuel 1:18

) (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
 
1Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered.
 
And Uriel said to me: 'Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women, and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods...19: 1
 

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