Is Rick Ross the New Biggie?

[jrod44]

It's not even worshipping but u cant compare Biggie and Ross thats just wrong. Thats like sayin Vanilla Ice and Em is the same cuz they both white and sold records. It's just disrespectful......

I feel you but that comparison is not close. Ross is not a one hit wonder. He has a strong catalog, and if you like that type of music, you think he is above average. I personally didnt like BIG but I did like a couple of the commercial songs in the club.

 

[great l]

Ro$$ is gonna b doper than Big...Ro$$ got that swagger...That's what separates ya local celebrities from national celebrities, that's what made Pac,Jimi Hendrix, Mike Jackson & Jordan,Rick James,Prince etc., they swag...Ross Swag is Bananas, he's gonna go further than Biggie his flow is better than Biggie, and he only gets better lyrically...Musically Ro$$ Surpassed Biggie...Emcee wise, yea Big is superior... but if u talkin Music, Ro$$ is at a different level...Biggie needed Diddy for the music...

WTF? This nigga can't be serious. Ross is not even remotely close to Biggie in any way outside of their physical appearances. And what the fuck is the "swagger" shit? That's like a 12 year old talking. Ross is a wannabe. What Biggie did in 95, Ross is trying to emulate in 2010. I am not even going to get into the flow part cos you can't possibly be serious there.

 

[StillDreaming]

Ross has the best BEATS but he doesnt have enough talent to be the best at anything.....

This is wat u call blind hate. I can understand if u don't like Ross but to say the man has no talent makes u sound like an uninformed consumer, basically a follower. So ur telling me ur not feelin Super High......really???

 

[thetruth391]

as soon as somebody bring up one of these dead niggas it cause an uproar of niggas swearinits blasphemy. i for one dont agree. but dnt say shit like v"this is disrespectful" "big would b turnin over in his grave" etc etc. i applaud the ppl that went with facts instead od jus sayin a bunch of dumb shit

 

[StillDreaming]

WTF? This nigga can't be serious. Ross is not even remotely close to Biggie in any way outside of their physical appearances. And what the fuck is the "swagger" shit? That's like a 12 year old talking. Ross is a wannabe. What Biggie did in 95, Ross is trying to emulate in 2010. I am not even going to get into the flow part cos you can't possibly be serious there.

The nigga is dead serious and so am I.......u mad?

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

It's not even worshipping but u cant compare Biggie and Ross thats just wrong. Thats like sayin Vanilla Ice and Em is the same cuz they both white and sold records. It's just disrespectful......

Sweetie that is apples and oranges there is this unrealistic Reverance given to Biggie and Pac in various ways and kats act like it is Blasphemy to not like Biggie or to compare him to someone else. In reality Biggie was a 1dimensional rapper and did not change the game he did Not Put NYC on the Map he did not have an original style nor did he do anything groundbreaking. What he had was the backing of Clive Davis Through Puffy so he had that corporate white hand paying for his spins and videos to get the repetition needed for Kats to believe he was the new sliced bread...

I feel you but that comparison is not close. Ross is not a one hit wonder. He has a strong catalog, and if you like that type of music, you think he is above average. I personally didnt like BIG but I did like a couple of the commercial songs in the club.

This is about the same way I feel...

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?679-Biggie-was-a-mediocre-rapper&p=510385#post510385

for a better Biggie conversation...

 

[Mozeley]

Biggie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the rest

rickys alright but he aint one of the greatest biggies flow alone is better then ricky will ever ever do

 

[StillDreaming]

Lyrically Ross is not talented to me. I'm not impressed easy when it comes to lyrics so he may be the standard for u but he isn't the standard for me. Ross Beats are fiyah but lyrically im not impressed at all.

Give me a BIG line that wowed you so I can see wat is lyrically impressive to you.

 

[rapmastermind]

Give me a BIG line that wowed you so I can see wat is lyrically impressive to you.

"Brawl Nights I preform like MIKE, anyone TYSON, JORDAN, JACKSON, ACTION, PACK GUNS"

Starting the rhyme with "Brawl Nights" Big is refering to Fight Nights or Boxing Nights. "Action Jackson" was the name of a 1980's action film staring Carl Weathers, Carl played Apollo in the "Rocky" series. Biggie is rapping over the score from Rocky. He proclaims in rhyme form he's the GOAT by naming all the top people in their respective professions. The Tyson reference is also a shout out to "Rocky" cause Tyson Box. Michael Jordan is the Goat Basketball player. Another sports reference. By mentioning Michael Jackson, Big is comparing himself as the Hip Hop MJ musically. That one line is extremely lyrical.

 

[jrod44]

[video=youtube;81NRcqFwHZ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81NRcqFwHZ0[/video]

this verse is quotable.

 

[StillDreaming]

"Brawl Nights I preform like MIKE, anyone TYSON, JORDAN, JACKSON, ACTION, PACK GUNS"

Starting the rhyme with "Brawl Nights" Big is refering to Fight Nights or Boxing Nights. "Action Jackson" was the name of a 1980's action film staring Carl Weathers, Carl played Apollo in the "Rocky" series. Biggie is rapping over the score from Rocky. He proclaims in rhyme form he's the GOAT by naming all the top people in their respective professions. The Tyson reference is also a shout out to "Rocky" cause Tyson Box. Michael Jordan is the Goat Basketball player. Another sports reference. By mentioning Michael Jackson, Big is comparing himself as the Hip Hop MJ musically. That one line is extremely lyrical.

That line is dope but was that explanation really needed lol. That line was not that deep, but it doesn't have to be the shit was hot. Big was never on a Lupe level with his rhymes, he just said fly shit over hot production.....remind u of anybody?

 

[jrod44]

Plus people forget that BIG had the Machine with him too. Puff was responsible for alot shit that got hot back then, in R n B and Hip Hop. Who do you think put BIg in those Coogie Sweaters and Versace glasses? People say Puff cosigning Ross is to stay relevant or make money, well what do you think he was doing for BIG? He cultivated a talent.

As far as lyrics and storytelling, its a matter of opinion, you like Big so you like that story, you dont like Ross so you dont wanna hear the story.

 

[StillDreaming]

I can give u two whole albums. I'm not talking about oneliners im talking about the ability to see what an artist is sayin. Big's story telling was better than most. Ten Crack Commandments was fire if u sold drugs or not "Never sell crack where u rest at/ even if a nigga want an ounce tell'em bounce" as simple as it seems ppl LIVE by that line it's not something that is fabricated in his made up world. The fact that Somebody's Got To Die kept u in suspense the entire time he was spitting u would of never guess that dude would be holding his daughter. A Story to Tell was pure comedy and his ability to rap the story and tell the EXACT same story at the end with out u wanting to turn it is what u call PERSONA. What Big had was Talent.... What Ross has is the Runners they can not compare.

So basically u can't recite any hot verses from Big off the top of the dome......really??

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Sweetie that is apples and oranges there is this unrealistic Reverance given to Biggie and Pac in various ways and kats act like it is Blasphemy to not like Biggie or to compare him to someone else. In reality Biggie was a 1dimensional rapper and did not change the game he did Not Put NYC on the Map he did not have an original style nor did he do anything groundbreaking. What he had was the backing of Clive Davis Through Puffy so he had that corporate white hand paying for his spins and videos to get the repetition needed for Kats to believe he was the new sliced bread...

This is about the same way I feel...

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?679-Biggie-was-a-mediocre-rapper&p=510385#post510385

for a better Biggie conversation...

Notice how this is all facts and undebateable...

 

[Myayoni is bored]

wtf. they both fat and black. other than that hell no.

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Sweetie that is apples and oranges there is this unrealistic Reverance given to Biggie and Pac in various ways and kats act like it is Blasphemy to not like Biggie or to compare him to someone else. In reality Biggie was a 1dimensional rapper and did not change the game he did Not Put NYC on the Map he did not have an original style nor did he do anything groundbreaking. What he had was the backing of Clive Davis Through Puffy so he had that corporate white hand paying for his spins and videos to get the repetition needed for Kats to believe he was the new sliced bread...

This is about the same way I feel...

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?679-Biggie-was-a-mediocre-rapper&p=510385#post510385

for a better Biggie conversation...

All facts and not debateable...

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

sure why not...rawse be spittin b...

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

Sweetie that is apples and oranges there is this unrealistic Reverance given to Biggie and Pac in various ways and kats act like it is Blasphemy to not like Biggie or to compare him to someone else. In reality Biggie was a 1dimensional rapper and did not change the game he did Not Put NYC on the Map he did not have an original style nor did he do anything groundbreaking. What he had was the backing of Clive Davis Through Puffy so he had that corporate white hand paying for his spins and videos to get the repetition needed for Kats to believe he was the new sliced bread...

This is about the same way I feel...

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?679-Biggie-was-a-mediocre-rapper&p=510385#post510385

for a better Biggie conversation...

I hate censorship and since I hav eto wait on mods to approve my last post I will say it again this shit cannot be debated with out negating the facts first...

 

[StillDreaming]

[video=youtube;kL2mZak2r8Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL2mZak2r8Y[/video]

Quotable Track

[video=youtube;Z8SpiJQYCT8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8SpiJQYCT8[/video]

I'm a Nas stan but Ricky won on this track

[video=youtube;7F8mJWd_NoA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F8mJWd_NoA[/video]

Best verse I've heard this year

And y'all say Ricky can't spit......FOH

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

damn I am being censored from quoting in this thread sad shit...