Is overpopulation the world's biggest problem now?

[kingblaze84]

Overpopulation is an issue, but it's exacerbated more by our lifestyle.

People starving? Look how much food gets wasted not in the US, but world wide. It gets dropped because it doesn't have a particular aesthic, or only a small part of an animal is desired, when the entire thing is edible.

Global warming? Look directly to our overdepence on oil, and having natural energy solutions deferred because of interference from oil companies.

People being poor? There will always be poor people, rich people, and middle class, but what constitues the financial aspects of each are wildly changing because the rich and corporations are raping the world.

Overpopulation isn't a myth, but if we took care of some of these issues, you be surprised how easily it could be managed.

I fully agree, but who is gonna stop these global corporations and contractors from raping the world? I can imagine how crazy things will get as the Earth heats up and more and more farmland gets destroyed by drought. Earth is reaching its limits, and climate change is speeding everything up.

 

[LONDON!]

you have too overstand this, concern for the planet from a civillised, genuine, progressive, constructive non hating type of way is one thing

but theirs a elite of mudda fockers out there(that don't promote the over population issue as much as they used too, publicly in the mainstream, maybe because there savage, primitive goals are being acheived)that promote population control

population control is a euphemism for eugenics, it started from the the elite in the west twisting darwinism and coming up wit eugenics, but they changed the name of this movement after the second world war due too the mainstream backlash against the nazi eugenics stuff, you get what i'm saying, so instead they called it population control, wit the influx of nazi's into the cia after the second war in the mid 40's in the us goverment operation called operation paper clip, the us goverment from 1948, in league wit the certain western elite, from goverments, too the medical/phamaceutical industrial complex & so on & so on wit a ravenous, possesed appetite for acheving there savage, primitive goals witout fail, created the AIDS virus amongst other man made bio-warfare diseases like ebola & chronic fatigue sydrome(aka gulf war sydrome) in the US goverments US special cancer virus program from 1962 too 1978, the aftermath of the racist cia operation mk naomi, research that, the virus was let out in public through the the US center for disease & control hepatitis b vaccination program for gays in the late 70's in america & through the world health organization via the smallpox vaccination program in the heterosexual populations throughout the planet in the late 70's aswell, which was part of jimmy carter's global 2000 bullshit

millions & millions of assassinated peeps by way of one of the biggest war crime atrocitys later, the system or certain global elite have eased off promoting population control in public mainstream arenas as rabid, foaming at the mouth back in the day antics like they use too, probably like i said, there acheaving there goals, AIDS, depleted uranium, imperilist wars, death from poverty at the extreme end of worldwide imperialism structure

if you worried about overpopulation so much, start wit your self, you see what i'm saying, you get me, you know them way there, overstand this

1.only the creator of all of this planet has a say of this type of issues through natures natural ways

2. what your talking about is man made problems, the society's of this planet we inhabitate worldwide is built on a man made system of haves & have nots, the greedy, pathogical psychotics, global elites that control this, want too control all the resources for themselves and kill off any threats too there domination and have the rest of the world in sevitude, what we call imperialism, fashism & eugenics, this is the undercover culture that controls and is promoted and brainwashed wit public mainstream scripts worldwide into the human being public psyche, they feel less humans, will lead too better control of these resources

thats whats overpopulating the planet, not humans, i'm gone

 

[janklow]

only the creator of all of this planet has a say of this type of issues through natures natural ways

...says the guy who's simultaneously declaring nature could not have created diseases

 

[LONDON!]

again you can't seem too comprehend what i'm typing, but i will try too keep it basic, 1,2,3, a,b,c

1.theirs natural diseases from nature

2.then theirs man made diseases made in laboratorys

thats my 'opinon' i'm promoting, simple, simple as, i'm gone

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

The galactic gap between rich and poor is the biggest problem. Proven fact that poverty stricken people reproduce more. Fix that and the rest will follow.

 

[kingblaze84]

you have too overstand this, concern for the planet from a civillised, genuine, progressive, constructive non hating type of way is one thing

but theirs a elite of mudda fockers out there(that don't promote the over population issue as much as they used too, publicly in the mainstream, maybe because there savage, primitive goals are being acheived)that promote population control

population control is a euphemism for eugenics, it started from the the elite in the west twisting darwinism and coming up wit eugenics, but they changed the name of this movement after the second world war due too the mainstream backlash against the nazi eugenics stuff, you get what i'm saying, so instead they called it population control, wit the influx of nazi's into the cia after the second war in the mid 40's in the us goverment operation called operation paper clip, the us goverment from 1948, in league wit the certain western elite, from goverments, too the medical/phamaceutical industrial complex & so on & so on wit a ravenous, possesed appetite for acheving there savage, primitive goals witout fail, created the AIDS virus amongst other man made bio-warfare diseases like ebola & chronic fatigue sydrome(aka gulf war sydrome) in the US goverments US special cancer virus program from 1962 too 1978, the aftermath of the racist cia operation mk naomi, research that, the virus was let out in public through the the US center for disease & control hepatitis b vaccination program for gays in the late 70's in america & through the world health organization via the smallpox vaccination program in the heterosexual populations throughout the planet in the late 70's aswell, which was part of jimmy carter's global 2000 bullshit

millions & millions of assassinated peeps by way of one of the biggest war crime atrocitys later, the system or certain global elite have eased off promoting population control in public mainstream arenas as rabid, foaming at the mouth back in the day antics like they use too, probably like i said, there acheaving there goals, AIDS, depleted uranium, imperilist wars, death from poverty at the extreme end of worldwide imperialism structure

if you worried about overpopulation so much, start wit your self, you see what i'm saying, you get me, you know them way there, overstand this

1.only the creator of all of this planet has a say of this type of issues through natures natural ways

2. what your talking about is man made problems, the society's of this planet we inhabitate worldwide is built on a man made system of haves & have nots, the greedy, pathogical psychotics, global elites that control this, want too control all the resources for themselves and kill off any threats too there domination and have the rest of the world in sevitude, what we call imperialism, fashism & eugenics, this is the undercover culture that controls and is promoted and brainwashed wit public mainstream scripts worldwide into the human being public psyche, they feel less humans, will lead too better control of these resources

thats whats overpopulating the planet, not humans, i'm gone

A lot of good points there, especially since the global elites are destabilizing many parts of the world through conflicts and other corrupt shit. And nature's natural ways of keeping populations in check is actually part of my point, in which droughts are wiping out farmland in many places and water is getting harder to find in many others, including in China, Africa and other huge population centers. And yet people will continue to grow in the billions, when some scientists say Earth needs half of another planet to handle the strain on our current resources.

You are right a lot of these issues are man made but it seems humans are not getting any less greedy. Cost of food, transportation and housing will only get higher as more and more people crowd into cities. I think most people worldwide live in cities now, I could be wrong.

In a perfect world, control of resources would be more fair and evenly spread, but governments worldwide probably have less power then the global elites. You have good reason to think imperialism is a bigger problem, but it seems too many nations these days are unable to take care of their people, including many "first" world nations.

 

[LONDON!]

you have too overstand this, concern for the planet from a civillised, genuine, progressive, constructive non hating type of way is one thing

but theirs a elite of mudda fockers out there(that don't promote the over population issue as much as they used too, publicly in the mainstream, maybe because there savage, primitive goals are being acheived)that promote population control

population control is a euphemism for eugenics, it started from the the elite in the west twisting darwinism and coming up wit eugenics, but they changed the name of this movement after the second world war due too the mainstream backlash against the nazi eugenics stuff, you get what i'm saying, so instead they called it population control, wit the influx of nazi's into the cia after the second war in the mid 40's in the us goverment operation called operation paper clip, the us goverment from 1948, in league wit the certain western elite, from goverments, too the medical/phamaceutical industrial complex & so on & so on wit a ravenous, possesed appetite for acheving there savage, primitive goals witout fail, created the AIDS virus amongst other man made bio-warfare diseases like ebola & chronic fatigue sydrome(aka gulf war sydrome) in the US goverments US special cancer virus program from 1962 too 1978, the aftermath of the racist cia operation mk naomi, research that, the virus was let out in public through the the US center for disease & control hepatitis b vaccination program for gays in the late 70's in america & through the world health organization via the smallpox vaccination program in the heterosexual populations throughout the planet in the late 70's aswell, which was part of jimmy carter's global 2000 bullshit

millions & millions of assassinated peeps by way of one of the biggest war crime atrocitys later, the system or certain global elite have eased off promoting population control in public mainstream arenas as rabid, foaming at the mouth back in the day antics like they use too, probably like i said, there acheaving there goals, AIDS, depleted uranium, imperilist wars, death from poverty at the extreme end of worldwide imperialism structure

if you worried about overpopulation so much, start wit your self, you see what i'm saying, you get me, you know them way there, overstand this

1.only the creator of all of this planet has a say of this type of issues through natures natural ways

2. what your talking about is man made problems, the society's of this planet we inhabitate worldwide is built on a man made system of haves & have nots, the greedy, pathogical psychotics, global elites that control this, want too control all the resources for themselves and kill off any threats too there domination and have the rest of the world in sevitude, what we call imperialism, fashism & eugenics, this is the undercover culture that controls and is promoted and brainwashed wit public mainstream scripts worldwide into the human being public psyche, they feel less humans, will lead too better control of these resources

thats whats overpopulating the planet, not humans, i'm gone

A lot of good points there, especially since the global elites are destabilizing many parts of the world through conflicts and other corrupt shit. And nature's natural ways of keeping populations in check is actually part of my point, in which droughts are wiping out farmland in many places and water is getting harder to find in many others, including in China, Africa and other huge population centers. And yet people will continue to grow in the billions, when some scientists say Earth needs half of another planet to handle the strain on our current resources.

You are right a lot of these issues are man made but it seems humans are not getting any less greedy. Cost of food, transportation and housing will only get higher as more and more people crowd into cities. I think most people worldwide live in cities now, I could be wrong.

In a perfect world, control of resources would be more fair and evenly spread, but governments worldwide probably have less power then the global elites. You have good reason to think imperialism is a bigger problem, but it seems too many nations these days are unable to take care of their people, including many "first" world nations.

basically theirs a enough resources for everyone on the planet too eat & survive and do there thing, but this planet is run by greedy, racist, pscyhotic deviant devils who want all the resources for themselves & everyone else too suffer & be in servitude

the rest of the planet, outside the global elite i've just mentioned, the majority, but not all, are a next set of greedy, puppet, basic common sense dumb, self serving, in some cases, lunatic loons, generic politricians that are not that much better neither

until we can get rid of these parasites from out of power & create a system were resources worldwide can be shared on a human rights basis worldwide outside of a political, economical & financial type structure or system you will always get peeps looking at the end result product of this imperialist system which is designed too make the majority suffer & the elite too be comftable, real talk

if peeps is comftable wit 1% of the planet controlling all the resources of the planet & thinks that sane, rationale & sense, peeps have too look at themselves first, because that is reality and when you look at it like that, then shit will look like the planets overpopulated in relation too resources

but your anaylizing a broken wheel that is a system that can't be fixed, a new system has too be created wit common sense that benefits the human being population in relation too resources in much more fairer even manner, the problem isn't too much human beings, the problem is the worldwide imperialist system, if your fine wit imperialism & eugenics, the yes, the planets overpopulated, you get what i'm saying

i'm gone

 

[janklow]

again you can't seem too comprehend what i'm typing, but i will try too keep it basic, 1,2,3, a,b,c

no, i understand what you're saying. i disagree with it because i happen to think things like AIDS can and do occur in nature, and wonder why you seem to think nature cannot have created a disease like AIDS (which likely dates back earlier than your outline there implies).

but please, call me dumb while typing "theirs" and "laboratorys"

 

[MasterJayN100]

Overpopulation aint the problem

 

[LONDON!]

again you can't seem too comprehend what i'm typing, but i will try too keep it basic, 1,2,3, a,b,c

no, i understand what you're saying. i disagree with it because i happen to think things like AIDS can and do occur in nature, and wonder why you seem to think nature cannot have created a disease like AIDS (which likely dates back earlier than your outline there implies).

but please, call me dumb while typing "theirs" and "laboratorys"

your getting academic smarts confused wit dna common sense smarts, but i'm not gonna turn this into no funny bizness

i believe the timeline is diffrent because i used too be a AIDS researcher back in the day, on my own self taught accord & from US goverment documents now, obtained from US libaries & other researchers work, other information sources, i basically feel like yeah, that disease is man made, real talk

 

[janklow]

your getting academic smarts confused wit dna common sense smarts, but i'm not gonna turn this into no funny bizness

no, i'm pointing out that if you're going to say "again you can't seem too comprehend what i'm typing," you ought to keep your posting above reproach.

i believe the timeline is diffrent because i used too be a AIDS researcher back in the day, on my own self taught accord-

oh, so you were NOT an AIDS researcher. maybe you should phrase it that way.

look, you're entitled to your opinion, but the thing is, nature was clearly capable of creating furiously effective diseases back in the day when it wasn't possible for man to have made them. so i am not sure why we should presume the modern world finds nature incapable of creating AIDS/Ebola/whatever.

 

[LONDON!]

your getting academic smarts confused wit dna common sense smarts, but i'm not gonna turn this into no funny bizness

no, i'm pointing out that if you're going to say "again you can't seem too comprehend what i'm typing," you ought to keep your posting above reproach.

i believe the timeline is diffrent because i used too be a AIDS researcher back in the day, on my own self taught accord-

oh, so you were NOT an AIDS researcher. maybe you should phrase it that way.

look, you're entitled to your opinion, but the thing is, nature was clearly capable of creating furiously effective diseases back in the day when it wasn't possible for man to have made them. so i am not sure why we should presume the modern world finds nature incapable of creating AIDS/Ebola/whatever.

everyone is entilted to there opinon, i promote that, i love that & your whole m.o seems full of em, why do you always take my 1, 2, 3 shit & consistently get on like mans typing calculus or sumthin

i'll try too be even simpler

1.i used too be a AIDS researcher

2.i ain't at the moment, because i ain't got the time until reality frees up some free time & i get my bank up & have the resources too continue my research on the level i'd like it to pop off at

nature is capable of producing anything it desires, whats your point, are you gonna wait for the big foot monster too appear aswell

back too reality, from fatual evidence not 'opinons', weighed up wit history, other sources & basic common sense from 36 years deep in this bitch experience on this planet, i've come too the conclusion & my personal opinon that the AIDS virus is man made & has nothing to do wit nature

if its from people munching on little green monkeys, why did the virus only show in face in multiple places on mass in the late 70's to early 80's, where smallpox & hepatitis b vaccination programs were poppin off at, mudda fuckers would have had that as a delicacy from the begining of time & they would be no people on this planet, trust me on that

my bad on the grammar people, i flopped in high school, came out wit no qualifications, all my shit is self taught, london, its serious, its serious, get money movements, i'm gone

 

[kingblaze84]

you have too overstand this, concern for the planet from a civillised, genuine, progressive, constructive non hating type of way is one thing

but theirs a elite of mudda fockers out there(that don't promote the over population issue as much as they used too, publicly in the mainstream, maybe because there savage, primitive goals are being acheived)that promote population control

population control is a euphemism for eugenics, it started from the the elite in the west twisting darwinism and coming up wit eugenics, but they changed the name of this movement after the second world war due too the mainstream backlash against the nazi eugenics stuff, you get what i'm saying, so instead they called it population control, wit the influx of nazi's into the cia after the second war in the mid 40's in the us goverment operation called operation paper clip, the us goverment from 1948, in league wit the certain western elite, from goverments, too the medical/phamaceutical industrial complex & so on & so on wit a ravenous, possesed appetite for acheving there savage, primitive goals witout fail, created the AIDS virus amongst other man made bio-warfare diseases like ebola & chronic fatigue sydrome(aka gulf war sydrome) in the US goverments US special cancer virus program from 1962 too 1978, the aftermath of the racist cia operation mk naomi, research that, the virus was let out in public through the the US center for disease & control hepatitis b vaccination program for gays in the late 70's in america & through the world health organization via the smallpox vaccination program in the heterosexual populations throughout the planet in the late 70's aswell, which was part of jimmy carter's global 2000 bullshit

millions & millions of assassinated peeps by way of one of the biggest war crime atrocitys later, the system or certain global elite have eased off promoting population control in public mainstream arenas as rabid, foaming at the mouth back in the day antics like they use too, probably like i said, there acheaving there goals, AIDS, depleted uranium, imperilist wars, death from poverty at the extreme end of worldwide imperialism structure

if you worried about overpopulation so much, start wit your self, you see what i'm saying, you get me, you know them way there, overstand this

1.only the creator of all of this planet has a say of this type of issues through natures natural ways

2. what your talking about is man made problems, the society's of this planet we inhabitate worldwide is built on a man made system of haves & have nots, the greedy, pathogical psychotics, global elites that control this, want too control all the resources for themselves and kill off any threats too there domination and have the rest of the world in sevitude, what we call imperialism, fashism & eugenics, this is the undercover culture that controls and is promoted and brainwashed wit public mainstream scripts worldwide into the human being public psyche, they feel less humans, will lead too better control of these resources

thats whats overpopulating the planet, not humans, i'm gone

A lot of good points there, especially since the global elites are destabilizing many parts of the world through conflicts and other corrupt shit. And nature's natural ways of keeping populations in check is actually part of my point, in which droughts are wiping out farmland in many places and water is getting harder to find in many others, including in China, Africa and other huge population centers. And yet people will continue to grow in the billions, when some scientists say Earth needs half of another planet to handle the strain on our current resources.

You are right a lot of these issues are man made but it seems humans are not getting any less greedy. Cost of food, transportation and housing will only get higher as more and more people crowd into cities. I think most people worldwide live in cities now, I could be wrong.

In a perfect world, control of resources would be more fair and evenly spread, but governments worldwide probably have less power then the global elites. You have good reason to think imperialism is a bigger problem, but it seems too many nations these days are unable to take care of their people, including many "first" world nations.

basically theirs a enough resources for everyone on the planet too eat & survive and do there thing, but this planet is run by greedy, racist, pscyhotic deviant devils who want all the resources for themselves & everyone else too suffer & be in servitude

the rest of the planet, outside the global elite i've just mentioned, the majority, but not all, are a next set of greedy, puppet, basic common sense dumb, self serving, in some cases, lunatic loons, generic politricians that are not that much better neither

until we can get rid of these parasites from out of power & create a system were resources worldwide can be shared on a human rights basis worldwide outside of a political, economical & financial type structure or system you will always get peeps looking at the end result product of this imperialist system which is designed too make the majority suffer & the elite too be comftable, real talk

if peeps is comftable wit 1% of the planet controlling all the resources of the planet & thinks that sane, rationale & sense, peeps have too look at themselves first, because that is reality and when you look at it like that, then shit will look like the planets overpopulated in relation too resources

but your anaylizing a broken wheel that is a system that can't be fixed, a new system has too be created wit common sense that benefits the human being population in relation too resources in much more fairer even manner, the problem isn't too much human beings, the problem is the worldwide imperialist system, if your fine wit imperialism & eugenics, the yes, the planets overpopulated, you get what i'm saying

i'm gone

Yeah, many of the world's governments, probably most like you said, have been bought off by the global elites. And that's precisely the problem, human greed knows no limits. And it's gona be next to impossible to take these crooked governments out of power, via force or protests. The global elite and their corporations control most of the world's resources but as long as so many of the world's governments are bought off by these people and ALLOW the global elite to do this, change is gonna be extremely unlikely. I feel what you saying though.

On your point that there are enough resources for everyone to survive and do their thing, I hope you're right, but nations around the world are modernizing at a very, very rapid pace. Good water and good land to farm will become more and more rare if global warming continues at this pace. Our water supplies are being destroyed due to human and pollution waste, and it's only gonna get worse as more people are born and nations develop. I really hope the 10 billion humans who will exist within 50-100 years don't use resources at our current rates, cuz we can't afford it according to United Nations researchers. At this point, I wonder if it's even possible to distribute resources at a more fair and even distribution. But we can hope.....

 

[LONDON!]

@kingblaze84

the system will fall one day like all empires, the rot is already happening, negative or positive, people power, grassroot movements from arab spring, to the kaliedscope of colour revolutions, occupy wall street, austerity protests, the few independent rebel goverments across the latin america's, the chinese, russian & persian goverments, hezbollah, the greek goverment, theirs some hope out there, anti-imperialist talk is becoming more & more mainstream, its a long haul thing, a steeple chase, it ain't a sprint, the system has 400 years head start, so it will take time, but i'd put my life on this, next century will see the end of this imperialist empire that has the whole entire planet in its clutches & feeding off turmoil and destruction by people power or other legal means, normal humans are getting more & more fed up

if occupy wall street had some specific acheivable goals instead of a cry out for help, like on some, all capitalism is bad, blah, blah, blah, the system will find it easy everytime too propagandise peeps & flop the movement like they did a couple of years back, because at the beginning of that shit they had the system rattled like i have never seen before, the public script of bullshit, disguising undercover fashism & imperialism was exposed, if only they had specific aims, who knows what could have happened

 

[kingblaze84]

@kingblaze84

the system will fall one day like all empires, the rot is already happening, negative or positive, people power, grassroot movements from arab spring, to the kaliedscope of colour revolutions, occupy wall street, austerity protests, the few independent rebel goverments across the latin america's, the chinese, russian & persian goverments, hezbollah, the greek goverment, theirs some hope out there, anti-imperialist talk is becoming more & more mainstream, its a long haul thing, a steeple chase, it ain't a sprint, the system has 400 years head start, so it will take time, but i'd put my life on this, next century will see the end of this imperialist empire that has the whole entire planet in its clutches & feeding off turmoil and destruction by people power or other legal means, normal humans are getting more & more fed up

if occupy wall street had some specific acheivable goals instead of a cry out for help, like on some, all capitalism is bad, blah, blah, blah, the system will find it easy everytime too propagandise peeps & flop the movement like they did a couple of years back, because at the beginning of that shit they had the system rattled like i have never seen before, the public script of bullshit, disguising undercover fashism & imperialism was exposed, if only they had specific aims, who knows what could have happened

There are a whole lot of movements worldwide that are trying to loosen the control of crooked governments and global elites, it's gonna be an uphill battle for sure though. I'd like to say these movements have a chance but with so many governments in the pockets of big business these days, it's gonna take a fucking miracle. I do agree neo-colonial practices are being challenged more than ever these days, so there is that hope out there.

On that note, I still worry about the clean water shortage that seems to be growing around the world. Even in America, where the global elites hang out the most, water shortages are occurring in more and more states, especially California. Cali is even rationing water now. All the crooked global elites can be killed off tomorrow, and because of pollution that modernization is creating in developing nations, clean water is gonna still become even more rare. Overdrafting for water in water poor areas is a crises in hot weather regions. Some regions of the world are seeing their populations grow at levels that their region's water levels can never handle, I hope that problem is solved down the line somehow.

 

[kingblaze84]

This article on water scarcity kind of maps out what I'm talking about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_scarcity_in_Africa

As of 2006, one third of all nations suffered from clean water scarcity,[3] but Sub-Saharan Africa had the largest number of water-stressed countries of any other place on the planet and of an estimated 800 million people who live in Africa, 300 million live in a water stressed environment.[4] According to findings presented at the 2012 Conférence on "Water Scarcity in Africa: Issues and Challenges", it is estimated that by 2030, 75 million to 250 million people in Africa will be living in areas of high water stress, which will likely displace anywhere between 24 million and 700 million people as conditions become increasingly unlivable.[4]



The 2006 United Nations Economic Commission for Africa estimates that 300 million out of the 800 million who live on the African continent live in a water-scarce environment.[3] Specifically in the very north of Africa, as well the very south of Africa, the rising global temperatures accompanying climate change have intensified the hydrological cycle that leads to dryer dry seasons, thus increasing the risk of more extreme and frequent droughts. This significantly impacts the availability, quality and quantity of water due to reduced river flows and reservoir storage, lowering of water tables and drying up of aquifers in the northern and southern regions of Africa.



Some of these differences in clean water availability can be attributed to Africa's extreme climates. Although Sub-Saharan Africa has a plentiful supply of rainwater, it is seasonal and unevenly distributed - leading to frequent floods and droughts.

--I sincerely hope Africa and the world population can handle water scarcity AND huge population growth in the future. But we will see.

 

[janklow]

everyone is entilted to there opinon, i promote that, i love that & your whole m.o seems full of em, why do you always take my 1, 2, 3 shit & consistently get on like mans typing calculus or sumthin

because i disagree with you and you're posting on a public forum wherein we debate things?

i'll try too be even simpler

1.i used too be a AIDS researcher

look, reading shit on the internet does not make you an "AIDS researcher." just say you're interesting in the topic and stop trying to add some research credit to the resume.

nature is capable of producing anything it desires, whats your point, are you gonna wait for the big foot monster too appear aswell

no, but what i AM going to do is wait for you to explain to me why mysteriously nature can no longer hit humankind with severe diseases. because you seem to attribute EVERYTHING of note in the last 100 years to a conspiracy theory.

back too reality, from fatual evidence not 'opinons', weighed up wit history, other sources & basic common sense from 36 years deep in this bitch experience on this planet, i've come too the conclusion & my personal opinon that the AIDS virus is man made & has nothing to do wit nature

see, this is the thing: you're still using "opinions," not "factual evidence."

if its from people munching on little green monkeys, why did the virus only show in face in multiple places on mass in the late 70's to early 80's, where smallpox & hepatitis b vaccination programs were poppin off at, mudda fuckers would have had that as a delicacy from the begining of time & they would be no people on this planet, trust me on that

well, i know you studied this on the internet, so you know there's evidence the virus was found in people prior to the 1970s-1980s.

 

[LONDON!]

i'm only on these internet forums when i have downtime from my movement, make the time go quicker, fuck it, get my tune links, see what music i'm missing, while doing that, i try too put peeps up on game wit the little knowledge man like me has, really & truly now, basically at the end of the day, i'm not really into debates, i'm just making the time go quicker, i'm into getting money & putting peeps up on game & vice versa, i'm always eager too be put up on shit, but theirs nuthin wrong wit the debate stuff, knowledge, wisdom & understanding is a beautiful thing

but you don't seem like your into debating, you have a pre-concieved notion of man & on purpose get my simple shit all twisted up & because it obviously always strikes accord wit you, you come wit nuthin but opionuated jibberish on purpose, thats not really a debate, no matter how cornball that sounds, i ain't got time for organised retard shit

i typed too you that i was a AIDS researcher & why i termed myself as a 'former' for the meantime, i broke down where my sources are from, but you couldn't handle that, so now your going on like you know man off here or sumthin, about internet sources, like i'm like you, just like typing pure fart for no reason

look, i'll try keep this as simple as possible, these are were my sources

book-behold the pale horse by milton william cooper
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Behold-Hors...ie=UTF8&qid=1439447888&sr=1-1&keywords=behold+a+pale+horse

book-emerging viruses:aids & ebola(nature, accident or intentional) by leonard horowitz
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Emerging-Viruses-Nature-Accident-Intentional/dp/0923550127

book-state origin:evidence of laboratory birth of aids by boyd ed graves
http://www.amazon.co.uk/State-Origi...s&ie=UTF8&qid=1439447970&sr=1-2&keywords=boyd+graves

former associate, rip:boyd ed graves-a former US navy guy who was a qualified lawyer that took the US goverment to court over the creation of the AIDS virus in 98 & onwards. He passed away in 2009

www.boydgraves.com

former associate, Professor Donald W Scott, MA, MSc(former AIDS researcher)a 2nd world war veteran from canada, he was a renowned expert on mycoplasmas, he & I believe that AIDS is a modified(weaponized) sheep retrovirus(mutates a lot more, more than the common cold) derived from Visna-Maedi-Rida(Scrapie) retrovirus from sheep and a immune system suppressant derived from the Mycoplasma Fermantans, which comes from the Deoxyribonucleic acid(DNA) of the zoonotic(animal) disease baterium known as Brucella Abortus

documents:US Special Virus Cancer Program Progress Reports 1 too 15 & Logic Flowchart, from 1962 too 1978, US goverment documents i have in my possesion obtained from US public librarys

you can order some of these documents from here
http://www.boydgraves.com/order/order.html

Global 2000(Jimmy Carter's population control program in the late 1970s)

documents:february 1948 FOREIGN POLICY STATEMENT NO.21' by George W Mckenna where it basically breaks down about how the "US has to develop a scheme to deal with the growing population of the third world"

a Time magazine article called 'BETTER THAN THE BOMB' from 'June 3rd 1946 where the MAY 1946 APPROPRIATION HEARING is discussing a biological agent'. Boyd thinks they were discussing the inducement of the man made nazi visna sheep virus into the human genome

CIA operation-Operation Paperclip(the US goverment brought Nazi's into the US intelligence/millitary departements straight after the second world war

CIA operation-MK Naomi(1950's)(a racist biological weapon program)

CIA operation-Special Operation X(SOX)(1950's)(ditto)

Nixon's 'JULY 18th SECRET MEMO' to congress on overpoulation is seen as the start of the paper trail of the AIDS holocaust, the '1974 NSSM-200(US plan to address overpopulation)' by Henry Kissinger which was the only discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania is important too, along wit '1975's President Gerald Ford's signature of NATIONAL DEFENSE MEMORANDUM 314', basically implementing the NSSM-200.

In 1969 the 'US military' at Ft.Detrick(the military biological division) in Maryland knew they could create a AIDS type virus, an they went to congress to ask for funding, 'US congress report House Resoulution 15090, part V5 finding, page 129, Synthetic Biological agent' outlines this request, I have this document in my possession, a Mr.MacArthur asks congress for funding, $10million for a virus that "the human Immunology system has know known natural immunity to" thats a quote, in the document he also says it will take 10 or so years to develop, 1969, AIDS pops offon mass in the late 70's & early 80's where the US govement Center For Disease & Control & the world health organization do mass smallpox & hepatitis b vaccination programs in the late 70's

document-The London Times – “Smallpox Vaccine ‘Triggered AIDS Virus.’” May 11, 1987

the mainstream medical establishment still won't talk on why this 'natural' AIDS virus has an 'man made' sheep virus called 'Visna' in it, even that dickhead Robert Gallo(who was chief officer of the US Special Cancer Virus Program, he';s listed in the reports) admitted 'AIDS evolve from Visna', check the Science journal, Vol 227, pp. 173 - 177, January, 1985, 'fact'

its about 'documents' backing facts like this for example, this is a picture of a virus the US Special Cancer Virus Program was working on they called the 'esp-1 virus', compared wit the AIDS virus, there almost 99% identical
http://www.boydgraves.com/news/101102.html

facts like the WHO calling for scientists around the world to "An attempt should be made to ascertain wheather viruses can in fact exert selective effects on immune function by depressing 7SV5.195 antibody or by effecting T-Cell as opposed to B-Cell function. The possibility should be looked into that the immune response to the viruses may itself be impaired. If the affected viruses damage, more-or-less selectively, the cells responding to the viral antigens"...thats taken from the WHO bulletin in 1972, basically what there saying is in other words let's make a virus that selectively inhibits the T-cell of man, so that human beings have no protection from diseases

official 'documents' & 'facts' back up my 'opinons', how bout you?

london, its serious, its serious, get money movements, i'm gone

 

[janklow]

but you don't seem like your into debating-

i am not the one complaining about the very notion of someone disagreeing with them on the internet. you didn't come on here with a previously-formed opinion and seek to defend it? or, to go further, you didn't lay disagreement at the doorstep of "you can't understand my posts" while now complaining that someone takes issue with your semi-literate posts?

i typed too you that i was a AIDS researcher & why i termed myself as a 'former' for the meantime, i broke down where my sources are from, but you couldn't handle that-

no, i CAN handle that, because you're not an AIDS researcher. let me keep this as simple as possible: you've cited Robert Gallo, who is an ACTUAL researcher who has studied AIDS. do we need to further break down the differences between his credentials and yours?

book-behold the pale horse by milton william cooper

book-emerging viruses:aids & ebola(nature, accident or intentional) by leonard horowitz

hello conspiracy theories

former associate, rip:boyd ed graves

ah, Boyd Graves, who IIRC claimed to cure AIDS with silver oxide injections... which, as i checked, have never been properly tested. huh.

documents:february 1948 FOREIGN POLICY STATEMENT NO.21' by George W Mckenna where it basically breaks down about how the "US has to develop a scheme to deal with the growing population of the third world"

a Time magazine article called 'BETTER THAN THE BOMB' from 'June 3rd 1946 where the MAY 1946 APPROPRIATION HEARING is discussing a biological agent'. Boyd thinks they were discussing the inducement of the man made nazi visna sheep virus into the human genome

CIA operation-Operation Paperclip(the US goverment brought Nazi's into the US intelligence/millitary departements straight after the second world war

so this is the phase where we're randomly throwing together ANY and ALL conspiracies into "well, this explains AIDS?"

In 1969 the 'US military' at Ft.Detrick(the military biological division) in Maryland knew they could create a AIDS type virus, an they went to congress to ask for funding, 'US congress report House Resoulution 15090, part V5 finding, page 129, Synthetic Biological agent' outlines this request, I have this document in my possession, a Mr.MacArthur asks congress for funding, $10million for a virus that "the human Immunology system has know known natural immunity to" thats a quote, in the document he also says it will take 10 or so years to develop, 1969, AIDS pops offon mass in the late 70's & early 80's where the US govement Center For Disease & Control & the world health organization do mass smallpox & hepatitis b vaccination programs in the late 70's

saves time if i just quote Wikipedia here:

"At the end of the cold war, former KGB agents Wassili Nikititsch Mitrochin and Oleg Gordijewski independently revealed that the Fort Detrick hypothesis was a propaganda operation devised by the KGB's First Chief Directorate codenamed "Operation INKEFTION". This revelation was later supported by officer Günther Bohnensack of section X of East Germany's Hauptverwaltung Aufklärung. It is known that Segal was in close contact with Russian KGB officers and Mitrochin mentioned him as a central asset of the operation.[16][17] It is not entirely clear whether Segal pursued the hypothesis independently on his own accord or whether he was simply following orders. Segal himself always denied the latter and kept pursuing the hypothesis even after the operation had been canceled and the Cold War had ended. It is known that Segal was in close contact with Russian KGB officers and Mitrochin mentioned him as a central asset of the operation."

document-The London Times – “Smallpox Vaccine ‘Triggered AIDS Virus.’” May 11, 1987

i believe this notion is dated to 1987 because it was a theory around then that has been considered discredited. so it goes.

basically what there saying is in other words let's make a virus that selectively inhibits the T-cell of man, so that human beings have no protection from diseases

is THAT what it said? or is that what you've decided to believe it led to, since your quote didn't say that?

official 'documents' & 'facts' back up my 'opinons', how bout you?

i'm not actually sure how many documents and facts are actually supporting you here, especially since your claims are roaming all over the place. but you don't need quotes around 'opinions' there.

 

[VIBE]

Overconsumption is the problem, not necessarily over population.