is lying about your past as a c.o. being a fake dude ?

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Rick Ross Says Birdman AKA Baby Is One Of The Top 5 Greatest Rappers Of All Time how can yall respect this dude but say nas and canibus ect. loss i dont know
 
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One of 2 things

1. Either black industry rappers cosign em becuae they think he's one of the greats and is nice.

Or...

2. They don't like him and cosign him for $.

I think it's 90-10 for the 1st option. Any one with a brain cell knows eminem is a food emcee. When masta ace cosgns em, what $ is he seeing?

Wayne was the hottest emcee in the game, why would he need em who wasn't relevant 05-09?

Another option if the artists are cosigning and Accepting eminem who they belies might be racist

that makes 99% of the black Industry :

uncle toms

sellouts

coons

so before I get mad at em I'd be pissed at my own people showing love to a racist

or they could think he's actually a racist but just respect his skills.

But I think they don't believe he's prejudice.

This is been long but I'll close with this. From what I've scene from the rap community, intenet, my friends,the industry and people on the subject

they think..

75%-i don't care, I don't think he's racist, or "it's just entertainment"

23%-uhh that was foul, but he apologized so I'm cool with it. He's dope it's whatever

2%- fuck his racist ass Ill never respect him again. He should be shot.

1%- undecided

My 2 cents
 
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You are assuming every rapper thinks like you and well that's not true. He's a great rapper that's part of the reason they cosign him.

YOU KNOW Deep down he's good

ya da dumb 1 stupid redneck if any black rapper speakz bad about da wigger gaawd they will get black ball'd & lose they white fanbase thatz a fact so stfu ross dont have no big white fanbase like that so he aint got nuttin 2 worry about...[/QUOTE]
 
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Mvpbrodie93;973497 said:
You are assuming every rapper thinks like you and well that's not true. He's a great rapper that's part of the reason they cosign him.

YOU KNOW Deep down he's good

nah i think like this STAND UP BLACK MAN....

[video=youtube;nP_2yE0AAlI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP_2yE0AAlI[/video]
 
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Mvpbrodie93;973475 said:
One of 2 things

1. Either black industry rappers cosign em becuae they think he's one of the greats and is nice.
Or...
2. They don't like him and cosign him for $.

I think it's 90-10 for the 1st option. Any one with a brain cell knows eminem is a food emcee. When masta ace cosgns em, what $ is he seeing?

Wayne was the hottest emcee in the game, why would he need em who wasn't relevant 05-09?

Another option if the artists are cosigning and Accepting eminem who they belies might be racist

that makes 99% of the black Industry :
uncle toms
sellouts
coons

so before I get mad at em I'd be pissed at my own people showing love to a racist

or they could think he's actually a racist but just respect his skills.

But I think they don't believe he's prejudice.
This is been long but I'll close with this. From what I've scene from the rap community, intenet, my friends,the industry and people on the subject
they think..

75%-i don't care, I don't think he's racist, or "it's just entertainment"
23%-uhh that was foul, but he apologized so I'm cool with it. He's dope it's whatever
2%- fuck his racist ass Ill never respect him again. He should be shot.
1%- undecided

My 2 cents

If you co-sign emenim just once there are white kids who will remember you forever and bring up your name on message forums repeatedly for years and years.

Just ask Rakim.
 
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hrap-120;973627 said:
If you co-sign emenim just once there are white kids who will remember you forever and bring up your name on message forums repeatedly for years and years.

Just ask Rakim.

they'll bring uphis name, but he's not getting any $ out of it. Just like masta

Hrap I respect your opinion most of the time but answer this question

you really don't think the industry rappers think em is a good emcee? Really?

Second question, do cosigns count?

I notice when someone's favorite rapper is cosigned, it counts and the rapper cosigning him is doing it truthfully and really believes he's nice. But godforbid a rapper you don't like(not you, fans in general) is cosigned(eminem, wayne, I'm mad I put them in the same sentence. Smh) is cosigned it don't count. It's all about $, they'll say he don't like hinge jus wants his fans.

So either ALL cosigns count or NO cosigns count IMO
 
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Mvpbrodie93;973681 said:
they'll bring uphis name, but he's not getting any $ out of it. Just like masta
Hrap I respect your opinion most of the time but answer this question

you really don't think the industry rappers think em is a good emcee? Really?

Second question, do cosigns count?
I notice when someone's favorite rapper is cosigned, it counts and the rapper cosigning him is doing it truthfully and really believes he's nice. But godforbid a rapper you don't like(not you, fans in general) is cosigned(eminem, wayne, I'm mad I put them in the same sentence. Smh) is cosigned it don't count. It's all about $, they'll say he don't like hinge jus wants his fans.

So either ALL cosigns count or NO cosigns count IMO
They all know he is good, you cant question how good he is, but there are many who remember the racist tapes.

A co-sign means the most when a rapper gets in the studio with you and makes some music, interviews are mostly bullshit, and saying whats politically correct.

There are plenty of bonuses that come with co-signing the biggest rapper on the planet. Em' has an enormous fanbase and if it wasnt for Emenim Masta Ace's name would have never been mentioned on the I.C. today.
 
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gee757;973413 said:
lol yep....

ya da dumb 1 stupid redneck if any black rapper speakz bad about da wigger gaawd they will get black ball'd & lose they white fanbase thatz a fact so stfu ross dont have no big white fanbase like that so he aint got nuttin 2 worry about...

lol @ you. How do you know what races support the BonBon Don? Are you taking a census? Ill agree with you that all of em's white fans arent rick ross fans..but im sure a good portion of ross' fans are white.But then again im not "out in the streetz" like you and h-fap dodgin bullets, drinkin rozay, moving weight while still finding time to debate on a hip hop forum.

A bunch of rappers spoke bad about those racist tapes in the source years ago when they were asked their opinion on it.
 
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hrap-120;973029 said:
O.K. so lets make a list of his non-rap co-signs.

Zoe Pound (Just filmed "BMF" at the "white-house" in LiL Haiti with the Zoe's.

Kenneth "Boobie" Williams (Ross mentor who has said he is solid)

Meechie (Said in an interview he co-signs the Bawse and his movement)

Thats good enough for 95% of the streets, it must take some serious muscle to steal Young Jeezy's main-line co-sign and Jeezy aint put up a fuss worthy of a papercut...he must be shook.



Now....lets see a list of the people in the streets or in the industry that are speaking out against the BAWSE
..Im not talking about anonymous-alias-identities on message boards, Im talking about flesh 7 blood human beings with names & faces.

Are they co-signing him as a person or are they co-signing the rapper is the real question ? The truth is, he make good music that some of us gravitate toward but going as far as calling him a "real dude" is based on what exactly... in a sense, the term "real" is subjective but I base it around actions rather than words. It's true that the streets fuck w/ Ross' music but it's not like the streets is always the best judge of character anyway... Preme co-signed Ja Rule & Irv Gotti and the beat goes on - it ain't no real loyalty in the streets, a lot of niggaz talk that shit but put some money in their pocket & they'll do in the same nigga they claim to run with. I'm not saying everybody in the streets is like that but at the end of the day, as long as he make good music - I'll listen but I don't vouch for nobody I don't know regardless of who else does. If he solid, he solid - if he fake, he fake but to me - it's only entertainment.
 
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Props to ross rapping over good hip hop production...but other than that......his music is so good people lose sight whats real here

Dude not a phony cause he was a CO, he comes into question when he denies it......he coulda moved coke and all of that........but not admitting you were a CO when its something that really isnt that bad makes u look phony......i think had he came flat out and admitted it......he would be bigger and more respected than what he is now....

its like you want to sell niggas all this bullshit, but have no concrete stance behind the mic.,........niggas dont know what to believe
 
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new account2;975051 said:
Props to ross rapping over good hip hop production...but other than that......his music is so good people lose sight whats real here

Dude not a phony cause he was a CO, he comes into question when he denies it......he coulda moved coke and all of that........but not admitting you were a CO when its something that really isnt that bad makes u look phony......i think had he came flat out and admitted it......he would be bigger and more respected than what he is now....

its like you want to sell niggas all this bullshit, but have no concrete stance behind the mic.,........niggas dont know what to believe
i agree wit wat u sayin but lets lay flowers on this thread my g. its nothin nobody can say that aint been said already. trust
 
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world_09;974491 said:
Are they co-signing him as a person or are they co-signing the rapper is the real question ? The truth is, he make good music that some of us gravitate toward but going as far as calling him a "real dude" is based on what exactly... in a sense, the term "real" is subjective but I base it around actions rather than words. It's true that the streets fuck w/ Ross' music but it's not like the streets is always the best judge of character anyway... Preme co-signed Ja Rule & Irv Gotti and the beat goes on - it ain't no real loyalty in the streets, a lot of niggaz talk that shit but put some money in their pocket & they'll do in the same nigga they claim to run with. I'm not saying everybody in the streets is like that but at the end of the day, as long as he make good music - I'll listen but I don't vouch for nobody I don't know regardless of who else does. If he solid, he solid - if he fake, he fake but to me - it's only entertainment.

wherrr u gettin ya info from??....preme was n irvz weddin premez relationship wit da inc was deeper then sum musik shit smh matter fact murder inc is down wit da PREME TEAM watch da ja rule & lil wayne old video uh ohh....& premez nephew WIZE MC GRIFF workz fa murder inc rite now...

Supreme's Nephew Calls 50 Cent An Asshole! "You Will Never Be Half The Man. That Your Mother Was. She Would Be Disappointed In You"

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh0WJgdzb80OK8RxxO

cuuurlyz mom was mo of a man then his coon azz lol...
 
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icame4wo;973224 said:
heres a real street dude and industry head that wasnt feeling ross lying hrap.

PaperChase reports "Chazz Williams of Black Hand Entertainment was asked about the 50 vs Ross beef. He labels the rapper Rick Ross a fraud and the real Freeway Ricky Ross a snitch."

[video]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhNdbTUrqJfmo6glpC[/video]

trick daddy had a problem with ross but i dont think it was over the co thing to be real. they is cool now. i will say one thing about ross though he was talking real slick about trick like it was nothin to him.

Nice Vid, it just proves my point, he never called him a fake or a fraud, he said it was WACK that he lied about it.

Its funny that you used Chazz Williams, because Chazz was getting out of jail on furloughs for school and instead of staying on campus he was robbing banks, he would go back to jail during the night and do the same thing the next day.

One of the C.O.'s was cool with it, but one of the C.O.'s that wasnt cool found out about it and Chazz got extra time added to his sentence, so the irony is amazing.

Nice try, I respect the effort but no cigar. :)

world_09;974491 said:
Are they co-signing him as a person or are they co-signing the rapper is the real question ? The truth is, he make good music that some of us gravitate toward but going as far as calling him a "real dude" is based on what exactly... in a sense, the term "real" is subjective but I base it around actions rather than words. It's true that the streets fuck w/ Ross' music but it's not like the streets is always the best judge of character anyway... Preme co-signed Ja Rule & Irv Gotti and the beat goes on - it ain't no real loyalty in the streets, a lot of niggaz talk that shit but put some money in their pocket & they'll do in the same nigga they claim to run with. I'm not saying everybody in the streets is like that but at the end of the day, as long as he make good music - I'll listen but I don't vouch for nobody I don't know regardless of who else does. If he solid, he solid - if he fake, he fake but to me - it's only entertainment.

I dont know people's intentions by associating themselves with Rick Ross.

I do however know that people are judged based on their associations. If you roll with fake people you are probably a fake person. If you roll with real people you are probably a real person.

Real recognize real were I'm from and people who consider themselves real dont go out of their way to associate with fake people.

I just have a hard time with people who are obviously fake calling somebody else fake.
Now if somebody REAL says it we can entertain the sentiment and build on it but if you are online with another mans picture, using another mans name you cant call anyone fake.

gee757;976361 said:
wherrr u gettin ya info from??....preme was n irvz weddin premez relationship wit da inc was deeper then sum musik shit smh matter fact murder inc is down wit da PREME TEAM watch da ja rule & lil wayne old video uh ohh....& premez nephew WIZE MC GRIFF workz fa murder inc rite now...

Supreme's Nephew Calls 50 Cent An Asshole! "You Will Never Be Half The Man. That Your Mother Was. She Would Be Disappointed In You"
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh0WJgdzb80OK8RxxO

cuuurlyz mom was mo of a man then his coon azz lol...

School 'em Gee, Irving Lorenzo and Preeme were friends, its way deeper than a co-sign.
50's mother was a bulldagger named Brenda.

LOL, ayo why that corny-Capo1 dude with the fish pop up every time somebody types Emenims name LMBAO!!
 
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lol@ that wangler kurt angle sneaker shady tee du rag rockin redneck wigger capo ha...
 
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bankrupt baller;976450 said:
once again fuck if he was a co or not,or if he lied about it....i dont like him as a rapper period

da redneck klansman feminem lied 2 & his lie was worst so get ova it!!
 
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