momanpr100;5440282 said:
TooGood;5439144 said:
Kyrie is gettin there, but not better than Rose yet. He has a lot of potential and room for improvement.
Rose has carried the team or been the difference maker in some big games against some good competition.
R.D.;5440207 said:
momanpr100;5440086 said:
Rose game impacts winning, Irvings don't.
Bulls winning w/o Rose
there goes your argument
they couldn't even beat a 8th seed team in the playoffs without him so there went your argument. this is irvings 3rd year and still gonna miss the playoffs for the this time. Rose never missed the playoffs. yall niggas listening to skip bayless way to much.
rose went to a team that already had established players . The only established player on the cleveland's roster has been injuried the past 2 seasons. The bulls the year rose got drafted were 33-49 not exactly a bottom feeding team they just got lucky to get the number 1 draft pick . The next 2 seasons the team only improved by 8 games . HIs third season his MVP year they improved by 21 games . That year they changed from Vinny Del Negro to Thibs and added about 6 players to their roster including Kyle Korver,CJ Watson,Omer Asik etc.
Now after that deal with memphis and some changes to the Rotation the Cavs have been winning lately . If they would have started with that Roster at the beginning of the season they would probably be in the hunt for the 8th seed even with the injuries which they have had a lot . Dion Waiters(8 games), Tyler Zeller(4 games), Daniel Gibson(14 games), Kryie Irving(11 games), Anderson Varejao (23 games-out for season)