Is hov officially the GROAT?

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sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

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sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Hits, but none them shits was any good.
 
sapp08_2001;c-9896910 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9896792 said:
270crownst;c-9891709 said:
50 don't have a diamond album..get rich or die trying haven't reach 9 mill yet...

What jay z cd is diamond? His highest sale is 5mill… facts

True Jay aint never had one of these
GRODT-Diamond.jpg

Neither does any of them..

sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas


5. 2pac

So what's your point.
 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9896979 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896910 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9896792 said:
270crownst;c-9891709 said:
50 don't have a diamond album..get rich or die trying haven't reach 9 mill yet...

What jay z cd is diamond? His highest sale is 5mill… facts

True Jay aint never had one of these
GRODT-Diamond.jpg

Neither does any of them..

sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas


5. 2pac

So what's your point.

I wasnt the one who brought up diamond plaques so scroll back
 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9896979 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896910 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9896792 said:
270crownst;c-9891709 said:
50 don't have a diamond album..get rich or die trying haven't reach 9 mill yet...

What jay z cd is diamond? His highest sale is 5mill… facts

True Jay aint never had one of these
GRODT-Diamond.jpg

Neither does any of them..

sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas


5. 2pac

So what's your point.

Nah...let him cook
 
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo
 
dalyricalbandit;c-9890654 said:
Imo yes.

If u look at Hov he's perhaps the most well rounded Mc in the history of hip hop.

Flow, lyrically, storytelling etc.

Lyrically sure some rappers might rate higher (Nas, Gza, etc) but Jay has them on Flow etc this goes for different categories .

21 years since his debut album and about 19yrs at the top without lookin back ain't a Easy feat.

And doing it in one of the most fickle genres of music like Rap.
 
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?
 
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Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


I wouldn't go that far. Off the top Me And My Girlfriend was a cool track for the ladies.
 
Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


So we basing our top 10s on how many "tracks to serenade the ladies" these rappers got lmao you the best and worst troll ever bruh
 
Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


Well thats not completely true. He did have Excuse me miss and frontin' both with Pharell
 
BOSSExcellence;c-9891526 said:
so let me get this straight..

say yall niggas have a son..

he aspires to be a rapper..

u go give that nigga a Nas tape.. or a Big tape and say "be like him.."

point to a Jay tape and shake ur head no in disgust..

"whatever u do son.. never be like Jay!"

hahahaha..

Gunna hand him a Distant Relatives tape

Also, I'm seeing a lot of people saying how Jay had a HUGE impact and contribution to hiphop, but i dont think i saw anyone say what they were. If you're going to list stuff that happened in the last few years please, don't bother. I say that because there are so many news a blog outlets now that will report anything in the hopes of click bait.

I have a feeling some of you are using those word too lightly like its easily accomplished.
 
Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


If you need a song to get you some pussy, you wasn't getting none anyway.

 
5 Grand;c-9897535 said:
Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


I wouldn't go that far. Off the top Me And My Girlfriend was a cool track for the ladies.


A song he stole from Tupac.

EDIT - sorry I meant paid homage to.
 
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sapp08_2001;c-9897554 said:
Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


Well thats not completely true. He did have Excuse me miss and frontin' both with Pharell


I'll tell you the one the women loved that I knew about "girls girls girls". "I met an African chick with Eddie Murphy on the skull..." Dude just got too many hits...and is still doing it making hits.
 
Lurker6;c-9897581 said:
BOSSExcellence;c-9891526 said:
so let me get this straight..

say yall niggas have a son..

he aspires to be a rapper..

u go give that nigga a Nas tape.. or a Big tape and say "be like him.."

point to a Jay tape and shake ur head no in disgust..

"whatever u do son.. never be like Jay!"

hahahaha..

Gunna hand him a Distant Relatives tape

Also, I'm seeing a lot of people saying how Jay had a HUGE impact and contribution to hiphop, but i dont think i saw anyone say what they were. If you're going to list stuff that happened in the last few years please, don't bother. I say that because there are so many news a blog outlets now that will report anything in the hopes of click bait.

I have a feeling some of you are using those word too lightly like its easily accomplished.

Jay had no impact his entire career was outsmarting not relivency he always grasp to whatever was hot at the moment and jump on to the next b4 the In got out I give em credit on at… but how's he the goat when all his biggest singles had futures? His highest selling cd was a future compilation cd he had 2 songs by himself non of which made the singles 5x plat…post a jay z hit wit no feature or sample…
 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9897682 said:
Preach2Teach;c-9897502 said:
5 Grand;c-9897460 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896905 said:
Nah Son;c-9896849 said:
Nah Son;c-9896536 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas

5. 2pac

Yes Jay-Z has many achievements in his career along with awards and album sales. But to be considered GOAT ask yourself this question is his music better than the ones listed above? Is he as influential? Has he made a bigger impact? In my honest opinion no. Is he one of the greatest? yes.

nahh @ LL. He a legend but no GOAT contestant to me. Had a spark in the eighties and a nice comeback album and that was it. Been livin off his name for like twenty years

mfs clickin on wack and nosign as expected but wont bring up facts

aight name a memorable LL song in this century yall

and Accidental Racist dont count

Love u better

Paradise

Headsprung

Hush

Control myself

All hits in this century

Also this joint with J.Lo


Forgot about this gem! gonna sing this shit to my girl tonight, fuck it I'm just gonna perform a full LL concert for her that man has too many smooth joints for the ladies we will be up all night, Jay on the other hand has zero tracks to serenade the ladies with how the fuck can people even consider him top 10?


If you need a song to get you some pussy, you wasn't getting none anyway.


He ment 2 say jay ain't got no soulful category except 4 couple songs … song cry,must love me,soon you'll understand … that's were it ends
 
Revolver Ocelot;c-9896979 said:
sapp08_2001;c-9896910 said:
trendsetta1030;c-9896792 said:
270crownst;c-9891709 said:
50 don't have a diamond album..get rich or die trying haven't reach 9 mill yet...

What jay z cd is diamond? His highest sale is 5mill… facts

True Jay aint never had one of these
GRODT-Diamond.jpg

Neither does any of them..

sapp08_2001;c-9896529 said:
5 GOAT rappers to consider before Jay-Z

1.Rakim

2.Scarface

3. LL Cool J

4. Nas


5. 2pac

So what's your point.

Pac is diamond
 
Jay the GROAT cause he's the only one doing it at such a high level and remained in the lime light. Ya rakim and nas top level but they names aint making poppin like that
 
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