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KeepOnPushing
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Legacy and Overall Career clearly Brett Favre cuz he did it for so long
but if we're just matching them up skill set for skill Aaron Rodgers is better, there's nothing Rodgers cant do from the QB Position, and he doesn't throw a ton of INT's , something Favre always did in his career..
Rodgers can throw in the pocket, on the run, doesn't turn it over at a high rate , if he needs to he can take out and run (even tho' he doesn't have blazing speed it's more than good enough to get yards if needed)
as far as Everything to ask for in a QB i haven't really seen anything like Rodgers it's like he's a create a character almost...
The biggest separation between Rodgers and Favre are the turnovers and thats huge to me , anytime u can get that type of Play from a Elite QB without turning it over thats special..
through their first 4 years as a Starting QB Favre had 63 INT's , Rodgers Currently just at 34...
i would match Rodgers Skill set wtih any QB in the History of the NFL , now he may not end up with a better overall career as a Montana,Brady or Favre numbers wise, or he may who knows but throwing out the numbers and if im just looking at Skill Sets on what Aaron Rodgers does ...
Field Vision,Decision Making,Moving out the pocket on the run and throwing,staying in the pocket,Throwing it in tight windows,spreading the ball around,arm strength,accuracy,leadership,running,protecting the football.
i would put him up there with anyone , dude is the total package
but if we're just matching them up skill set for skill Aaron Rodgers is better, there's nothing Rodgers cant do from the QB Position, and he doesn't throw a ton of INT's , something Favre always did in his career..
Rodgers can throw in the pocket, on the run, doesn't turn it over at a high rate , if he needs to he can take out and run (even tho' he doesn't have blazing speed it's more than good enough to get yards if needed)
as far as Everything to ask for in a QB i haven't really seen anything like Rodgers it's like he's a create a character almost...
The biggest separation between Rodgers and Favre are the turnovers and thats huge to me , anytime u can get that type of Play from a Elite QB without turning it over thats special..
through their first 4 years as a Starting QB Favre had 63 INT's , Rodgers Currently just at 34...
i would match Rodgers Skill set wtih any QB in the History of the NFL , now he may not end up with a better overall career as a Montana,Brady or Favre numbers wise, or he may who knows but throwing out the numbers and if im just looking at Skill Sets on what Aaron Rodgers does ...
Field Vision,Decision Making,Moving out the pocket on the run and throwing,staying in the pocket,Throwing it in tight windows,spreading the ball around,arm strength,accuracy,leadership,running,protecting the football.
i would put him up there with anyone , dude is the total package
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rage;3735545 said:13 pages now...and we still waiting on FACTS as to why Favre is a better QB than Rodgers.
You dense ass ngga lmao thats b/c THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU!!!!
how i, or anybody else, look 'prooving' that a ngga w/ 20 years of credentials is better than a ngga w/ 4 n a half...git that shyt outta here fam
He has the POTENTIAL ...but that dont mean shyt so just sit back and wait.
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CoolJoe;3731199 said:He had 36 touchdowns and less than 4000 yards in 16 games.
Rodgers has 28 touchdowns(plus 2 rushing) in 9 and he's on pace to throw for more than 5000 yards this season.
He's also completing 73 percent of his passes...
No one's being a prisoner of the moment.
Yall aint watched sports long enough. How you gon compare different eras using stats when clearly QB numbers are inflated these days due to the fact that they dropping back 50-60 times a game. No one was doing that in the 80s or 90s. Its a BS comparison to say the least
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s2jepeka;3735846 said:You dense ass ngga lmao thats b/c THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU!!!!
how i, or anybody else, look 'prooving' that a ngga w/ 20 years of credentials is better than a ngga w/ 4 n a half...git that shyt outta here fam
He has the POTENTIAL ...but that dont mean shyt so just sit back and wait.
Dumb fuck, there are least 10 posts in this thread showing you stat after stat that shows Rodgers is a better QB. There is nothing that Favre achieved from 1998 to 2007 that Rodgers hasnt already. And we have already proved that Rodgers 2009-2011 season shits all over Favre's 95-97 year run. So what else is there to discuss other than calling him a "Gunslinger" or a "real Gamer" or my favorite "Old Gambler"??
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notme;3735894 said:Yall aint watched sports long enough. How you gon compare different eras using stats when clearly QB numbers are inflated these days due to the fact that they dropping back 50-60 times a game. No one was doing that in the 80s or 90s. Its a BS comparison to say the least
More nostalgic bullshit.
The Packers in the 90s never had any less than 520 - 570 attempts a season. Which is more than the 475-540 attempts the Pack of Rodgers's era. So kill that "pass happy" drop 50=60 times a game noise.
Secondly Rodgers also has a much higher completion and QB rating during those comparable years.
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rage;3735925 said:Dumb fuck, there are least 10 posts in this thread showing you stat after stat that shows Rodgers is a better QB. There is nothing that Favre achieved from 1998 to 2007 that Rodgers hasnt already. And we have already proved that Rodgers 2009-2011 season shits all over Favre's 95-97 year run. So what else is there to discuss other than calling him a "Gunslinger" or a "real Gamer" or my favorite "Old Gambler"??
he's
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thread.
Geez....
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rage;3735925 said:Dumb fuck, there are least 10 posts in this thread showing you stat after stat that shows Rodgers is a better QB. There is nothing that Favre achieved from 1998 to 2007 that Rodgers hasnt already. And we have already proved that Rodgers 2009-2011 season shits all over Favre's 95-97 year run. So what else is there to discuss other than calling him a "Gunslinger" or a "real Gamer" or my favorite "Old Gambler"??
Real defense was played then as well. You could punish the QB and intimidate receivers from going across the middle. Today's game is like playing madden. Its strictly to hype fantasy geeks. A lot of QBs looked great until Bruce Smith, LT, Reggie White, Jerome Brown, etc made them see their life flash before their eyes. That type of D is forbidden in today's game
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Mvpbrodie93
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rage;3735545 said:13 pages now...and we still waiting on FACTS as to why Favre is a better QB than Rodgers.
yup, they know he's better then favre theyre just arguing for argument sake.
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Mvpbrodie93
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Yeah because they don't Play defense now LMAO.
This is almost as bad as the handchecking argument in basketball
This is almost as bad as the handchecking argument in basketball
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Mvpbrodie93;3736050 said:Yeah because they don't Play defense now LMAO.
This is almost as bad as the handchecking argument in basketball
I can't take you guys seriously at all. You have no idea what Stern has done to the league. Diff topic tho
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Mvpbrodie93
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Marino set the TD and yrd record(which still stands) in 1984.
Quarterbacks have been putting up high yardage and TD's for YEARS.
Lol at people acting like this is new. When u have to resort to "well the league was tougher, they played real defense" to justify favre being better you know you lost.
Just give up the ghost guys. Aaron is better
Quarterbacks have been putting up high yardage and TD's for YEARS.
Lol at people acting like this is new. When u have to resort to "well the league was tougher, they played real defense" to justify favre being better you know you lost.
Just give up the ghost guys. Aaron is better
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Mvpbrodie93
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notme;3736072 said:I can't take you guys seriously at all. You have no idea what Stern has done to the league. Diff topic tho
The bad boy pistons,lakers,Celtics were giving up 100 plus PPG on 50% like clockwork. That's 00's suns status.
"physical D" doesn't equal "Better"
But that's another topic for another thread
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major pain
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I think people are arguing different points here.
Who is the better QB means different things to different people.
On one hand you have those (like me) who thinks Rodgers has to prove himself of sustaining a career with a high level of play like Favre has in order to be considered 'better'. I dont think there is any denying that Favre has a HOF career and with Rodgers just starting a few years ago he doesnt yet.
On the other hand you have people who are evaluating Rodgers' skills vs. Favre's skills. In this case, it would seem for the moment Rodgers has a better skill set and is the 'better' QB. I think this much is apparent also.
Yall can stop going at each other over this... its going to come down to who you ask and how they interpret the question.
Who is the better QB means different things to different people.
On one hand you have those (like me) who thinks Rodgers has to prove himself of sustaining a career with a high level of play like Favre has in order to be considered 'better'. I dont think there is any denying that Favre has a HOF career and with Rodgers just starting a few years ago he doesnt yet.
On the other hand you have people who are evaluating Rodgers' skills vs. Favre's skills. In this case, it would seem for the moment Rodgers has a better skill set and is the 'better' QB. I think this much is apparent also.
Yall can stop going at each other over this... its going to come down to who you ask and how they interpret the question.
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notme;3736033 said:Real defense was played then as well. You could punish the QB and intimidate receivers from going across the middle. Today's game is like playing madden. Its strictly to hype fantasy geeks. A lot of QBs looked great until Bruce Smith, LT, Reggie White, Jerome Brown, etc made them see their life flash before their eyes. That type of D is forbidden in today's game
Oh so now that the "pass happy offence of today" excuse to the "savage barbarian Conan type linebacker defences of the 90s" is the excuse now?? Cuz I'm gonna blow this nonsense up with facts in a second...but I just want to make sure you niggas haven't come up with another excuse.
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So you know nothing about basketball either huh? There were a lot more skilled players between the 70s and 90s and the league was smaller so you more concentrated talent per team. Factor that in with the up tempo style of play back then and you get 100 ppg. The league was just flat out better. Funny you mention the suns when there squads are nothing like those you are referring too. When the league expanded, it got watered down, increasing more bad teams per division. When you factor in that the talent coming out of college was becoming more less skilled, Stern had no choice but to change the rules to make the game more conducive to offense. The mere fact that the had to change the rules show that the game is not as good as it was in prior eras
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rage;3736155 said:Oh so now that the "pass happy offence of today" excuse to the "savage barbarian Conan type linebacker defences of the 90s" is the excuse now?? Cuz I'm gonna blow this nonsense up with facts in a second...but I just want to make sure you niggas haven't come up with another excuse.
You don't have facts kid. You have "stats." That is a totally different can of worms. I've watched sports long enough to know what espn wants you and kids in your age bracket to believe is some straight up bs.
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major pain;3736149 said:I think people are arguing different points here.
Who is the better QB means different things to different people.
On one hand you have those (like me) who thinks Rodgers has to prove himself of sustaining a career with a high level of play like Favre has in order to be considered 'better'. I dont think there is any denying that Favre has a HOF career and with Rodgers just starting a few years ago he doesnt yet.
On the other hand you have people who are evaluating Rodgers' skills vs. Favre's skills. In this case, it would seem for the moment Rodgers has a better skill set and is the 'better' QB. I think this much is apparent also.
Yall can stop going at each other over this... its going to come down to who you ask and how they interpret the question.
What is this high level of sustained play you speak of? He didnt win any superbowls or MVPs after 97, his QB rating was mediocre as fuck for the rest of his career aside from 07 where he had Adrian Peterson...and Rodgers is gonna blow that shit out of the water this year.
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notme;3736189 said:You don't have facts kid. You have "stats." That is a totally different can of worms. I've watched sports long enough to know what espn wants you and kids in your age bracket to believe is some straight up bs.
Yeah thats what I thought nigga....and shut the fuck up about "ESPN and this age bracket bullshit". I'm old enough to have watched LT play and know that he retired in 1993 2 years after Favre STARTED games. I'm also not so on this nigga's nuts to realize that he is severely overrated due to all the good ole boy "Gunslinger" "Old Gambler" insert another bullshit adjective that SPORTSCASTERS ON ESPN like John Madden been heaping on this dude for being a mediocre ass good ole boy.
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Mvpbrodie93
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Players today are extremely skilled in NBA so don't give me that. Kobe is probably the most skilled player of all time and he plays today.
FACT
when your giving up 100/105/110 a game the defense ISN'T GOOD.
FACT
The 00's Suns gave up less points then the bad boy pistons lakers and celtics of the 80's
And people thinks their D sucks
The score of an NBA FINALS GAME WAS 148-118. Come on son. They ain't play no defense.
But again that's for another thread lolz
FACT
when your giving up 100/105/110 a game the defense ISN'T GOOD.
FACT
The 00's Suns gave up less points then the bad boy pistons lakers and celtics of the 80's
And people thinks their D sucks
The score of an NBA FINALS GAME WAS 148-118. Come on son. They ain't play no defense.
But again that's for another thread lolz
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