If You Were Born After 1990 Then Your Opinion On Hip Hop Doesn't Really Matter....

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

Got damn you even open up your post with a contradictory sentence.
What does a contender for a GOAT title have to do with technical aspects of rhyming? Tupac is considered a GOAT and there are tons of niggas that can just plain rap circles around that nigga. But his MUSIC and other factors all combined to give him that standing in certain fans eyes. Solely, those two things (being able to spit and being a GOAT contender) don't correlate so stop with the bullshit. I'm saying strictly SKILL wise as in being able to drop lyrically impressive verses, rappers today are no question better with the pen game then they were in the 80's and early 90's.

Ummmmmmmmm....................................If you say so. So the GOAT won't be technically skilled. OK. Gotcha.

 

[illogics]

Ummmmmmmmm....................................If you say so. So the GOAT won't be technically skilled. OK. Gotcha.

Tupac is considered a GOAT and there are tons of niggas that can just plain rap circles around that nigga. But his MUSIC and other factors all combined to give him that standing

Fam....really? Just stop. You typing just to type right now. Move on.

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

so technically skilled rappers and all their music plus all the other factors can't make them be considered for GOAT?

 

[illogics]

so technically skilled rappers and all their music plus other other factors can't make them be considered for GOAT?

Quote where I said or insinuated this. I'll wait...

 

[deathrowzorrow]

The 90's>>> All Pac albums, All Ice Cube Albums, All Wu Tang Albums, All Mobb Deep Albums, All Outkast, All Biggie, All, Nas, All Jay Z....

 

[Brian B.]

so technically skilled rappers and all their music plus all the other factors can't make them be considered for GOAT?

jus quit while your behind

nobody even said that shit

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

Quote where I said or insinuated this. I'll wait...

I'm not playing the fucking qouote me game...you know what you said and are trying to backtrack.

So your telling me Jay and Nas.....lets just say those two and forget the fucking numerous other techincal rappers your shitting on right now....aren't technical rappers? Fam....your fucking Dhalsim status right now.

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

The 90's>>> All Pac albums, All Ice Cube Albums, All Wu Tang Albums, All Mobb Deep Albums, All Outkast, All Biggie, All, Nas, All Jay Z....

WTF? Most of that shit is 90's music...

 

[illogics]

I'm not playing the fucking qouote me game...you know what you said and are trying to backtrack.

So your telling me Jay and Nas.....lets just say those two and forget the fucking numerous other techincal rappers your shitting on right now....aren't technical rappers? Fam....your fucking Dhalsim status right now.

Lol, your done.

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

I'm saying strictly SKILL wise as in being able to drop lyrically impressive verses, rappers today are no question better with the pen game then they were in the 80's and early 90's.

but these same rappers can't be debated for GOAT?

 

[illogics]

but these same rappers can't be debated for GOAT?

NO. There's a thousand Smack DVD type niggas that can spit impressive bars in a cyph. There's a thousand niggas that can spit random bars on mixtape instrumentals. But they have no substance, no movement, no classic music behind it, NOTHING else but bars. How you get a GOAT title just off that?

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

what about eminem? Lupe? Hov? (remember he still rappin he came outta retirement like jordan )

and i meant to say, rappers metas, similes, multis, punchlines, wordplay, rhyme schemes, flow, subject matter, and production is getting more complex, more crisp, and more clean. Just like athletes are gettin better. Usain bolt the fastest guy right now, but eventually his ass is gunna get surpassed too.

I got nothing but respect for them. I have a problem with him saying they better. They aren't. Straight fact.

For the record...HOV ain't your generation bro.

 

[ustreet_monsta]

Born in 81...

This thread might be backwards. You could argue that if you were born before 1990 and still listen to the radio or aspire to make Hip Hop music you are part of the problem. Hip Hop is supposed to be for young people. Your basically the old head at the party talking about "back in my day we used to walk 60 miles in the snow to school." As much as I enjoy Dre, Puff, and Jay-Z they have a stranglehold on youth culture and look where the genre has gone as they try to stay relevant and dictate trends to kids.

 

[byrond0126]

I have been hip hop since Beat Street and Wildstyle.

Hip hop is not just defined by music, it is a culture. There is art and dance that plays into the equation as well. You cannot just accept the musical portion of Hip Hop. The movement consists of tagging trains, breakdancing and battling rival crews, the fashion, actual real Dj's and not doing parties with CD's and mp3's. The newer culture has gotten lazy with the culture as a whole. Get back to digging in the crates and trying to find that record at the shop that is an exclusive, breakbeats, putting thought into music again.

 

[Smo-King Locs]

i know these old graveyard niggaz ain't talkin....homie was 30 years old in 82... if u was born 1960 then ya opinion don't hold weight for no NBA debate.... ya ain't see wilt,russell,julius,west,barry,maravich,kareem,oscar....

dumb ass

 

[illogics]

I have been hip hop since Beat Street and Wildstyle.
Hip hop is not just defined by music, it is a culture. There is art and dance that plays into the equation as well. You cannot just accept the musical portion of Hip Hop. The movement consists of tagging trains, breakdancing and battling rival crews, the fashion, actual real Dj's and not doing parties with CD's and mp3's. The newer culture has gotten lazy with the culture as a whole. Get back to digging in the crates and trying to find that record at the shop that is an exclusive, breakbeats, putting thought into music again.

I understand where you coming from but what you're saying isn't at all practical anymore. The landscape of our society changed. How many different avenues people can use to connect to one another thru the growth in technology, How easy it is to get your music some kind of recognition just by throwing it on youtube or whatever. The diggin in the crates aspect? Well due to all the new legal issues that come with sampling nowadays, how feasible is this really? I share the sentiment but people gotta realize that some of the fallen aspects of Hip-Hop are due simply to times changing.

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

is that right

 

[T. Sanford]

i was born in 1999

 

[piffhuxtable]

Do you also care to back up that statement. No current rapper is being debated for GOAT.

Fucking idiots on here I swear.

I've been listening to rap for a long time and Lupe Fiasco is lyrically as nice as there's ever been, if not nicer, and that goes for the Nas's and Jay's and Rakims of the world.

 

[T. Sanford]

bahaha

year eminem blew up

my mother played his song when I came home for the 1st time