If You Were Born After 1990 Then Your Opinion On Hip Hop Doesn't Really Matter....

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

used to burn one to this shit every day

[video=youtube;1Y1lOyTFsJs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1lOyTFsJs[/video]

that's mad funny....that's the first thing I thought of when I read his post.

 

[The BAPHOMET]

"TEACH me HOW TO DOUGIE, COME HERE LIL MAN SHOW ME/ CLUTCHING ON HIS MOMMA LEG REMIND ME OF THE OLD ME" - GAME

 

[Old Fart]

Quoted part sums it all up.

Some of us 'Old Heads' were 14,15+ during the golden age.

We saw BIGGIE in concert. We didn't watch Pac movies on a Saturday afternoon on BET we went to the theater when shit was released. We witnessed the DeathRow/BadBoy beef. We remember GhostFace as the dude in the mask. We know what it is like to watch MTv and BET in the early afternoon.... not in the evening primetime hours to catch reality shows.

We lived this shit.

Basement parties every week where ppl actually danced.

"Engine engine number 9" was followed by the full Blacksheep song not the Fat Man Scoop club mix.

We copped the Source and other mags. We bought and traded mix TAPES (yes tapes) and CD's. Not just DL'ed songs.

It wasn't just a great time for hip hop. R&B was KILLING it during OUR time. RKelly before he pissed on kids. Jodeci, MJB. Dancehall Raggae was too. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhttttt!!!!

Y'all can't pick that shit up in a book. You can't live it or breathe it in pages.

Young'Uns dis the old heads as they sit there wearing all of our 80's gear. SMH. Yall can't even get your own style.

Not saying y'all opinion ain't shit. But don't front like you know something just cuz ya picked it up online thru forum convo's, wiki and youtube.

There is a reason why no one from this current generation's music group is part of the GOAT convo. Our gen's group has that shit on lock.

Year of the TWIN 7 post.

that's what I'm sayin.

I remember watching Soul Train as a kid in the 70's when the Lockers first did the moonwalk (was called the backslide back then tho) and it freaked everyone out. It's some muthafuckas out here that think MJ made that shit up when he did it on Motown 25 LOL

I remember watching the TV show New York Hot tracks when they introduced the Fat Boys to the watchers outside of NY for the first time and had to explain what beat boxing was and demonstrated it by performing Stick'em. It blew everyone's mind and everyone was talking about it the next day and weeks after in school. Books don't tell that story. It aint even on youtube or google.

Anybody watching Krush Groove now have no idea about the impact that scene had on the hip-hop world when LL bogarded into Russell's tryout and spit 'Radio'. You wouldn't get that from just seeing the movie. It would just be another scene in the flick that happened. LL was known in NY at that time because he had 'I Need A Beat' out at the age of 16 but that scene from Krush Groove spring boarded his career. That was the first time everyone outside of NY ever even heard of him.

I remember the first time the radio played Rapper's Delight and everybody lost their mind wondering 'what kind of music is that!' Back then we were already roller skating to Good Times by Chic so when Sugarhill gang rapped on top of that it was a wrap and everyone was begging for more of that shit called rap music. There aint a book written that tells about that stuff or that could thoroughly explain the impact it had on kids when they first heard it, where they were and what was happening the day or minute before that song was first played in the neighborhood. We had Parliament as our 'hip-hop' before that. Sir Nose was like the first Flavor Flav and shit LOL

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

there some in here going "WTF this fool talking about Krush whaaat? Groove?"

 

[RuffDraft]

To the t/s and pro-supporters, whilst I agree with what you're saying to a degree (I'm an 80's baby), but I'm not a 70's baby like two who have posted... but by studying depth in the culture, learning for over a decade through the Internet as well as growing up listening to a lot of 90's ish growing up, it doesn't change the fact that I wasn't around (really) for the 80's era... shit only got big in 88 anyways... but my point is, whilst the 70's babies truly remember the 80's (unlike 80's babies who were still too young) it doesn't change the fact that we can learn and get a very good grip of the era and appreciate it...

The true 'problem' (if there is one) with post 1990's babies is that a certain percentage of them are ignorant with their comments and comment about early 80's and 90's 'ish at times like it's irrelevant and then continue to bash older heads who struggle with the direction of hip hop at the moment (and rightly so). Here's why:

Hip Hop in it's rawest form comes in Rap music that's delivered from the soul. It's soul music. The problem with a lot of mainstream artists is that they're directed by the big man at the top of the Major labels who tell their Artists what to release. It's not the soul music it once was, the experimental sounds and emceeing that it once was...

Point is, if a post 1990's baby posts who is open minded, they should (IMO) listen to the older heads to learn from them as much as they diversify themselves through their search for knowledge of rap music and the hip hop culture. I'd still take a 1992 babies word over an 80's head who hasn't diversified themselves and stayed ignorant through their youth. For the 90's babies, there's still a lot of music that's great in this era (mostly in the underground), but you can be proud of production from Dilla, Kanye West and others as well as some emcees from the era too.

 

[nycest_1]

nah, don't confuse business with art form.

theres an artist for every entertainer in the rap business.

its just the rap game went from a fringe benefit to a multimillion dollar industry.

labels took a small lucrative product and mass produced it.

so now they got it to a point where its all commercial and videos and radio play is controlled by money.

a microcosm of this (and i can't believe i'm bringing them up in a hip hop discussion) is how the black eyed peas went from fake ATCQ to mega pop music when they got the lil white girl

 

[nycest_1]

LMAO....IIRC, this dude thinks Pun the GOAT.

Pun is not a bad choice for GOAT status.
and hes actually one of the most respectful artists to the culture.
nigga came up with diggin in the crates.
fat ass was in the background of the i shot ya video lampin when he was big dawg punisher.
also consider who the nigga had featured on his first album. the dude put niggaz he was fuckin wit on his album as opposed to whoever the IT nigga was at the time.

Pun isnt the GOAT in my eyes, but if you name a candidate, that nigga fucks wit em in every category you judge an artist on.

 

[Food & Liquor]

I think you can't really base it off age; I was born in the 90s. I guess it's just down to whether you're gonna approach things with an open ear or not. Fair enough, I'd probably say the albums from the 90s were best (even though I was late on getting into hip hop music) but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna give the older stuff a try. Rakim is someone who's music I'll enjoy every so often; got a lot of love for Run-DMC plus the odd bit of KRS-One is cool too. In general it's not my preferred taste (I prefer 90s and 00s/10s) but I'll still give it a chance which a minority will do.

I can see where the idea for this has come from though as there are a lot who won't give it a chance and music is something which you should be open minded about imo.

 

[Old Fart]

I'm a suburban dude who never actually lived in the inner city but I got fam that live in the hood that I visit pretty often. My main exposure to ghetto life only really comes from what I read here in the IC everyday. But I'm on this IC shit practically all the time so I feel I got a pretty solid understanding of what really goes on out there in the actual streets. Posters here come from all different inner cities and they be tellin the real. I even fux with some other dudes on here from suburbs similar to mine who got some real talk stories too so I can definately relate to them too. Some of yall posters who are from actually hoods and put in work be trying to tell me I aint really a 'street' dude because I never actually lived that life but I don't see it that way. If I'm always on here and getting the real shit from all of yall then what the fuck does it matter that I'm not actually out there rollin the hoods like yall doing? FOHWTBS If yall kickin me the real then basically it's the same shit. So miss me with all that BS about I gotta actually be 'in the streets' to understand it. I know just as much about street life as the rest of yall niggas and probably more because I absorb all the shit yall be sayin pretty good so I know what's good in the hood.

See what I just did there?

Just to be clear, that was me talkin bullshit and none of that is actually true. I just did that to make a point that fits this thread. Feel me yet?

 

[H-Rap 180]

I'm a suburban dude who never actually lived in the inner city but I got fam that live in the hood that I visit pretty often. My main exposure to ghetto life only really comes from what I read here in the IC everyday. But I'm on this IC shit practically all the time so I feel I got a pretty solid understanding of what really goes on out there in the actual streets. Posters here come from all different inner cities and they be tellin the real. It's even fux with some other dudes on here from suburbs similar to mine who got some real talk stories too so I can definately relate to them too. Some of yall posters from actually hoods and put in work be trying to tell me I aint really a 'street' dude because I never actually lived that life but I don't see it that way. If I'm always on here and getting the real shit from all of yall then what the fuck does it matter that I'm not actually out there rollin the hoods like yall doing? FOHWTBS If yall kickin me the real then basically it's the same shit. So miss me with all that BS about I gotta actually be 'in the streets' to understand it. I know just as much about street life as the rest of yall niggas and probably more because I absorb all the shit yall be sayin pretty good so I know what's good in the hood.

See what I just did there?

Just to be clear, that was me talkin bullshit and none of that is actually true. I just did that to make a point that fits this thread. Feel me yet?

LOLOLOL, I enjoyed that.

Lookin forward to more feelings being caught.

 

[RuffDraft]

This song seems to fit the theme of the thread... here's an anthem for you....

[video=youtube;sad0ND_O2dM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sad0ND_O2dM&feature=related[/video]

Beastie Boys, Dana Dane and JJ Fad,
Oh it kinda make me sad,
Because oh we growin' old,
Oh we growin' old, oh we growin' old...

Fat Boys, Beat Streets and Kangol Hats...
Oh it kinda make me sad,
Because oh we growin' old,
Oh we growin' old, oh we growin' old..

Way back in 1989 before hip hop had perks
The girls had "I Love Daisies" on their shirts and it worked
With me falling in love with the whole scene with a dream
That I'd rock the stage and do the same dang thing
Ties hanging from the pants everybody had dreadlocks
Back then light skinned negroes ruled the whole block
We rocked polka dots gangstas wore Guess with house shoes
Without a care with nothing to lose come on

De La Soul, JB's and A Tribe Called Quest
Man we didn't know what we missed
Oh we growin' old oh we growin' old
Oh we growin' old
3rd Base, Special Ed and KRS
Years ahead all of the rest
Oh we growin' old oh we growin' old
Oh we growin' old
The Pharcyde, Souls Of Mischief and the Wu Tang Clan
Oh we didn't have a plan
Oh we growin' old oh we growin' old
Oh we growin' old
The Freestyle Fellowship and MC Shan
The wind blew away the sand
Because oh we growin' old oh we growin' old
Oh we growin' old

 

[MrMinted]

Thats what gets me is these guys read up on the internet....

I remember before the internet when you had to research real hard to find out facts about your rappers, and people would talk about albums you couldn't just go and download and you had to save your money to buy the tape (Later on CD) to find out what all the fuss is about, and then it blew your mind!!

The only rapper I am feeling lately is Joe Budden & Slaughterhouse but if anyone else wants to post me some non gimmick banging original stuff then be my guest...

 

[RuffDraft]

Thats what gets me is these guys read up on the internet....

I remember before the internet when you had to research real hard to find out facts about your rappers, and people would talk about albums you couldn't just go and download and you had to save your money to buy the tape (Later on CD) to find out what all the fuss is about, and then it blew your mind!!

The only rapper I am feeling lately is Joe Budden & Slaughterhouse but if anyone else wants to post me some non gimmick banging original stuff then be my guest...

Your heads in the wrong place, check out The Essence sub forum to be enlightened. Music in the 00's is in the underground and it's just as good as any era.

 

[MC The Rapper]

I was born in 1986 my first album i had was doggystyle it was great man i called my first grade teacher a bitch after that and i have been calling women bitches and hoes ever since great times.

 

[Kame]

 

[FieldTripsToTheHood]

I was born in 1986 my first album i had was doggystyle it was great man i called my first grade teacher a bitch after that and i have been calling women bitches and hoes ever since great times.

where'd you get the money for your CDs when you were 7?

 

[nujerz84]

Born in 1984...first legit memory of hihop I recall was hearing UTFO and the Roxanne Shante Battles didnt start fucking with heavy until Redman, Cypress Hill, Lords of Underground and Naughty By Nature were huge where Im from..

 

[musicology1985]

where'd you get the money for your CDs when you were 7?

My first purchase was skee-lo's I wish I was a little bit taller LMAO!

My mama got it for me on cassette at Sam Goody in 1994. She wasn't gone buy no damn Snoop Doddy Dogg. Hell naw. I could only listen to that when she wasn't around.

 

[Biggwillie]

I believe the gripe of the "old heads" (myself included) is how much of a pedestal the new generation puts these new artist and song up on. Around 2005 is when this new genre of music came about starting with Dem Franchize Boyz and D4L. Both groups were criticized harshly but it sparked and ideal for years to come. A few years later Hurricane Chris came on the scene and I personally thought no one would take this guy seriously. After him Soujah Boy opened the flood gates for most of the same type of music (Waka, Gucci, GS Boys, Shop Boys Party Boys, F.L.Y., Roscoe Dash, Travis Porter, Y.G. ect...) that the record lables are backing. I know all of the newer generation do not look up to this artist but to only see them day and night on tv and on radio as saying its them or nothing when it comes to hip hop is highly annoying.

 

[Old Fart]

Born in 1984...first legit memory of hihop I recall was hearing UTFO and the Roxanne Shante Battles didnt start fucking with heavy until Redman, Cypress Hill, Lords of Underground and Naughty By Nature were huge where Im from..

??? you remember that shit from when you were a newborn? lol cmon son.... That shit started in 1984 with UTFO's Roxanne, Roxanne.