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Michael_Malice;5605165 said:Down on the ceiling, looking up at the bed
Life is a gamble better check the point spread
And when life sucks, I just enjoy the head
I'm so sick of these niggas, I need meds
"Abortion" is criminally slept on. Carter 4 is criminally slept on because it came out during the "I Hate Lil Wayne and anything he does" period.
This is how we treat our legends. We don't appreciate them until they are dead. Wayne saved Hip Hop starting in 2007 early 2006. FACT.
#YMCMB
that 2nd verse on Abortion was mean, Nightmares Of The Bottom was hard too
StoneColdMikey
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Abortion and president carter best songs on c4. Carter 4 ain't that bad but its just those punchlines were wtf level. I knew carter 4 wouldn't be that good cuz usually his intros for the carter series good but it wasn't lol.
MikeydaGawd;5605244 said:Abortion and president carter best songs on c4. Carter 4 ain't that bad but its just those punchlines were wtf level. I knew carter 4 wouldn't be that good cuz usually his intros for the carter series good but it wasn't lol.
lmao cs the intro was what I most disappointed in, 3 Peat, Tha Mobb, and Walk In he went extra hard on all of em
he went wit his lazy flow on Carter 4 intro
They have no angle for that argument!
It can't be sales because he is nowhere near Em, Jay, Pac
It can't be catalog because it's nowhere near Pac, Nas, Jay,etc
I guess you can say mixtapes but 50 Cent is the one who made it popular and has a better catalog.
It's not like he owned an era either because Kanye has sold more albums in less time and has put out masterpieces.
Wayne is just popular to me, if that's worth something.
It can't be sales because he is nowhere near Em, Jay, Pac
It can't be catalog because it's nowhere near Pac, Nas, Jay,etc
I guess you can say mixtapes but 50 Cent is the one who made it popular and has a better catalog.
It's not like he owned an era either because Kanye has sold more albums in less time and has put out masterpieces.
Wayne is just popular to me, if that's worth something.
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MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14
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Michael_Malice;5605165 said:Down on the ceiling, looking up at the bed
Life is a gamble better check the point spread
And when life sucks, I just enjoy the head
I'm so sick of these niggas, I need meds
"Abortion" is criminally slept on. Carter 4 is criminally slept on because it came out during the "I Hate Lil Wayne and anything he does" period.
This is how we treat our legends. We don't appreciate them until they are dead. Wayne saved Hip Hop starting in 2007 early 2006. FACT.
#YMCMB
Wayne didn't save hip hop in 06 07 he just dominated. I don't deny he wasn't on top back then but if he would have never existed hip hop would have still thrived. TI was doin his thing ye was still spazzing and other southern rappers were blowing up as well.
The reason most niggas in this thread are critisizing wayne is because in 2010 and up till 2013 wayne has not been a shell of what he was in 06 07 08.
just.might.b.ok
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Michael_Malice;5604330 said:Doesn't matter what argument I give. I gave up on that here a long time ago. You niggas hate Wayne. He sucks. He had never done shit. He has not classics. He can't spit. Gillie wrote his shit. He can't play the guitar. He sucks at Skating. He is a fake gangster. Yada Yada Yada...
#YMCMB
In before Didn't Read.
this is pretty much true, he cant rap anymore at all, he's a mediocre skater, his rock album is a joke, he kissed another man in the mouth.
what is it? he's done a lot of things musically and outside of music? lol been mediocre in a lot of stuff doesnt mean he's good just cause he's trying, its just making him look even worst since he cant do shit.
fuck young monkey cock muching bitches
Idiopathic Joker
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usmarin3;5605248 said:They have no angle for that argument!
It can't be sales because he is nowhere near Em, Jay, Pac
It can't be catalog because it's nowhere near Pac, Nas, Jay,etc
I guess you can say mixtapes but 50 Cent is the one who made it popular and has a better catalog.
It's not like he owned an era either because Kanye has sold more albums in less time and has put out masterpieces.
Wayne is just popular to me, if that's worth something.
there you go
D_Rap_Scholar
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Kendrick Lamar said:http://www.hiphoplead.com/news/kendrick-lamar-speaks-on-lil-waynes-influence-on-his-style/
The craziest thing about Wayne, what people don’t understand is that you get a lot of younger cats that’s listening to him now and feel he’s a new artist,” he said.
“I go all the way back to the Hot Boys days and being 13, listening to this dude. Just remembering the staple he put on the game back then all the way to now, to have that longevity years beyond it. For him to actually acknowledge what I’m doing right now and seeing it as a path, the same way the longevity he created, it’s a great feeling to share that same stage and a moment with him. Wayne ain’t no new jack to this game. He influenced a lot of styles and a lot of sounds. I would say I was influenced by a certain sound and flow and cadence that he brung to the game.”
usmarin3;5605248 said:They have no angle for that argument!
It can't be sales because he is nowhere near Em, Jay, Pac
It can't be catalog because it's nowhere near Pac, Nas, Jay,etc
I guess you can say mixtapes but 50 Cent is the one who made it popular and has a better catalog.
It's not like he owned an era either because Kanye has sold more albums in less time and has put out masterpieces.
Wayne is just popular to me, if that's worth something.
Legit question for those who say wayne influenced the game strictly off rhyming and nothing else. Was the influence based of of him being so much better that people wanted to rhyme like him? Or was it damn he got so much buzz let's rhyme like him?
For example, when Rakim and G Rap came out, they were so much better then everyone that everyone wanted to rhyme and flow like them and so they elevated the game and became two of the most influential rappers of all time.
Wayne on the other hand, didn't have lyrics or flows that elevated the game IMO, it was more like yo this dude making millions so let's rap like him.
Sorta like how everyone became a drug dealer/rapper when 50 blew up.
For example, when Rakim and G Rap came out, they were so much better then everyone that everyone wanted to rhyme and flow like them and so they elevated the game and became two of the most influential rappers of all time.
Wayne on the other hand, didn't have lyrics or flows that elevated the game IMO, it was more like yo this dude making millions so let's rap like him.
Sorta like how everyone became a drug dealer/rapper when 50 blew up.
D_Rap_Scholar
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Yo fo real, we need to turn this into a Weezy Appreciation thread!
Niki Minaj said:http://www.newlilwayne.com/2009/06/nicki-minaj-interview-with-vibe-speaks-on-wayne-as-an-influence/
Talk about the experience of being on Lil Wayne’s I Am Music tour. You’re still a relatively new artist and you get to see a superstar on stage sell out every night and have thousands of fans scream his name. That has to be eye-opening, right?
That tour made something inside of me say, Oh my God, I want this! I know that I have this in me, and I want this! It was the best thing that ever happened to me. It made me really kick in into that next gear and say, I’m about to go hard or go home! I have one more chance to prove to the underground world and prove that I am who I say I am. And I did it. I did it with Beam Me Up Scotty. I put out music, it wasn’t just freestyles. It was music; it was talking about a lot of different things like you said. It was showing versatility and showing rap skill, and singing and all of that.
What type of influence has Wayne had on your career?
Wayne has always been my biggest influence. It’s weird because I sit down and talk to Wayne like he’s just a regular human being, and then I walk on stage with him and there’s 20,000 people screaming for him. I think it puts it into perspective for me like, Wait a minute, this is actually attainable. I could have this; I just need to focus and remember that my grind is just beginning. I always say that that’s what I learned from Wayne the most; he never stops grinding. It showed me, Yo, this dude is the truth, and I’m going to follow in his footsteps.
Michael_Malice
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If you say Wayne can't rap or don't have skillz, I can't take you seriously.
It's going to be interesting to see how Wayne's music holds up and how he ages in rap, because that ''young boy'' shit he raps about and those stupid ass tats, skateboard gimmick ain't gonna be cool when he is in his late 30s and 40s. He's not gonna be able to hold on to those teenage fanbase, they'll grow old and outgrow his shit imo.
Michael_Malice
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usmarin3;5605351 said:It's going to be interesting to see how Wayne's music holds up and how he ages in rap, because that ''young boy'' shit he raps about and those stupid ass tats, skateboard gimmick ain't gonna be cool when he is in his late 30s and 40s. He's not gonna be able to hold on to those teenage fanbase, they'll grow old and outgrow his shit imo.
He will be retiring soon. He's good.
MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14
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usmarin3;5605351 said:It's going to be interesting to see how Wayne's music holds up and how he ages in rap, because that ''young boy'' shit he raps about and those stupid ass tats, skateboard gimmick ain't gonna be cool when he is in his late 30s and 40s. He's not gonna be able to hold on to those teenage fanbase, they'll grow old and outgrow his shit imo.
he doesn't really have it like he used to tho either. When i was a senior in high school (2007-08). Niggas were bumping the empire mixtapes some c2 and waiting for the summer 08 release of C3. My lil bro a senior outchea and niggas not listening to wayne. They fucks with drake, asap, kendrick, 2 chainz is a huge favorite but not wayne that much. Many of my bros aged kids fucked with him in middle school when he was hot but they have already moved on to other artists being their fav rappers.
Idiopathic Joker
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D_Rap_Scholar;5605335 said:Yo fo real, we need to turn this into a Weezy Appreciation thread!
Niki Minaj said:http://www.newlilwayne.com/2009/06/nicki-minaj-interview-with-vibe-speaks-on-wayne-as-an-influence/
Talk about the experience of being on Lil Wayne’s I Am Music tour. You’re still a relatively new artist and you get to see a superstar on stage sell out every night and have thousands of fans scream his name. That has to be eye-opening, right?
That tour made something inside of me say, Oh my God, I want this! I know that I have this in me, and I want this! It was the best thing that ever happened to me. It made me really kick in into that next gear and say, I’m about to go hard or go home! I have one more chance to prove to the underground world and prove that I am who I say I am. And I did it. I did it with Beam Me Up Scotty. I put out music, it wasn’t just freestyles. It was music; it was talking about a lot of different things like you said. It was showing versatility and showing rap skill, and singing and all of that.
What type of influence has Wayne had on your career?
Wayne has always been my biggest influence. It’s weird because I sit down and talk to Wayne like he’s just a regular human being, and then I walk on stage with him and there’s 20,000 people screaming for him. I think it puts it into perspective for me like, Wait a minute, this is actually attainable. I could have this; I just need to focus and remember that my grind is just beginning. I always say that that’s what I learned from Wayne the most; he never stops grinding. It showed me, Yo, this dude is the truth, and I’m going to follow in his footsteps.
If that happens, this thread gets deleted. Unless @icecoldstew wants it lol
just.might.b.ok
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Michael_Malice;5605338 said:If you say Wayne can rap or have skillz, I can't take you seriously.
agreed.
Idiopathic Joker
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Michael_Malice;5605338 said:If you say Wayne can't rap or don't have skillz, I can't take you seriously.
You do realize picking cotton is the only nigga taking you seriously
D_Rap_Scholar
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A$AP Rocky said:http://www.lilwaynehq.com/2012/11/asap-rocky-discusses-lil-wayne-how-he-has-changed-hip-hop/
How do you feel about the culture of hip-hop changing? Lil Wayne is skateboarding now.
That’s dope. I put Wayne in Jay-Z and Kanye’s bracket, in terms of success. Wayne is still fun. Are we forgetting that Wayne made everybody switch their flow up and start using the E’s and R’s, and “I’m ir-regul-ar, seg-ular”? Like, c’mon, are we forgetting that Wayne changed hip-hop, too? Are we forgetting that he made all these motherfuckers want to have tattoos? Are we forgetting that? It wasn’t Wiz, it was Wayne. Wiz did it, too, but I’m just stating facts. This is a guy who fucking went from being the youngest underdog in his crew to saving his company, and saving his “Daddy.” I’m not a fucking Lil Wayne dickrider—I’m just speaking facts.
That’s fair.
People can say what they want about him with the way he dresses. I hate the way he dresses. I’m keeping it 100 with you. It’s very tacky at times. But that’s what he chooses to do. Get off his dick! If that’s what he chooses to wear, OK. At least he’s not wearing it ’cause he saw some other lame motherfuckers wearing it. That’s when I don’t respect it. He’s doing him! Maybe it doesn’t work for you, but it works for him. So we need to get off his dick and let that man be legendary.
