If You Believe Lil Wayne Is The Greatest Of All Time...

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Carter 3 is good. Carter 2 is classic imo. There is.not.one song you can skip on there.

If the original carter 3 never leaked but he still put out the carter 3 we know today, that album wouldnt get so much hate. Only wack song is get money.
 
probably cause he was dropping good mixtapes at a time when every other week there was a crappy one hit wonder track that came out. anybody with some form of lyrics would sound like the best back then.
 
P. Town;5604314 said:
I just don't see how dude could go from early Cash Money wack Lil Wayne, to this praised Wayne, back down to wack. Something fishy there, and some niggas fell for it

Wayne wasn't wack in the Hot Boys though. He was overlooked because of the great production, BG & Juve. When he started branching out on his own he started getting more respect. The first thing he had to do was grow his own fanbase outside of classic CMB fans and when it happened it grew out of control. Homie has talent, but GOAT, classics talent? Nah...not at all. He got bars in his early albums but his voice hadn't matured and the fanbase wasn't there. All these fair weather, johnny come lately niggas and brainwashed crackas put him on a pedestal even though the nigga been falling off for years now.
 
I cant even believe that some people even consider him one of the GOATs. Your ears must be retarded.
 
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Makaveli Joker;5604364 said:
Would anyone say Camron, kanye, or both helped influence Wayne's entire steelo?

i would say it was cam, jim jones and juelz and jay-z shit niggas act like the don't remember before young money when wayne was talking that dipset south shit
 
I know many of ya'll don't feel his music, but there are a lot of artists who see Weezy as a true legend in the game. And whether you like it or not, he's made his mark on hip hop. Why?

(1) Because he has shown rappers how to saturate the market with mixtape material and a nonstop work ethic

(2) His rhyme skills have influenced many cats who have imitated his cadence and lyrical delivery

(3) He has been a trend-setter even since the The Carter (e.g. fashion-wise, in terms of image and marketing, etc.) and despite his inconsistency as an artist, he has helped to define an era (both it's best and worst qualities)


The only thing that's keeping him from being GOAT is having a first-rate catalogue that can match Tupac's, Nas' or Jay-Z's.
 
There is none, but from Carter 1 to No Ceilings he had the biggest buzz, I have ever witnessed in Hip Hop as far as being white hot and the length he was the go to nigga. Not saying he is goat but his run is up there with the greats.
 
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D_Rap_Scholar;5604635 said:
I know many of ya'll don't feel his music, but there are a lot of artists who see Weezy as a true legend in the game. And whether you like it or not, he's made his mark on hip hop. Why?

(1) Because he has shown rappers how to saturate the market with mixtape material and a nonstop work ethic

(2) His rhyme skills have influenced many cats who have imitated his cadence and lyrical delivery

(3) He has been a trend-setter even since the The Carter (e.g. fashion-wise, in terms of image and marketing, etc.) and despite his inconsistency as an artist, he has helped to define an era (both it's best and worst qualities)


The only thing that's keeping him from being GOAT is having a first-rate catalogue that can match Tupac's, Nas' or Jay-Z's.

1. Is that necessarily a good thing tho? I would even go as far as to say that it's a bad thing... the oversaturation of mixtapes and features devalued the album and put a damper on the longevity of a project. Now it's like, album didn't do projected numbers by 3 months? Fine, put out a mixtape.

2. I'll give you that, even though I hear more cats tryna rhyme like Drake, but he definitely still has artistic influence.

3. Meh, a lot of his "trends" were done before. Dipset/Kanye innovated the rock star look. 50 and Jeezy changed the mixtape game that he ran with. 3 Stacks, Ye (again) and a whole lot more cats dabbled into other genres before Wayne has.

Wayne did his thing, but there are other artists who deserve the same props, if not more. If you look at Jeezy, Kanye, Ross, 50 and Drake in a few years under the same microscope, you'll see that they did just as much for the game as he did.
 
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Monizzle14;5604269 said:
There is no argument for GOAT. You can argue he was one of the best rappers of the 2000's. When you think of classic hip hop albums people say illmatic, ready to die, etc. They don't think first hand any of wayne's albums. He had some great albums but not bar none classics. Likewise his best material like mikey said was completely random shit for the most part.

You wouldn't consider The Carter III to be a classic?

Carter 3 sold off hype if anything carters 1 and 2 have more classic material than C3. I still liked c3 but it wasn't on the level of the first 2.
 
D_Rap_Scholar;5604635 said:
I know many of ya'll don't feel his music, but there are a lot of artists who see Weezy as a true legend in the game. And whether you like it or not, he's made his mark on hip hop. Why?

(1) Because he has shown rappers how to saturate the market with mixtape material and a nonstop work ethic

(2) His rhyme skills have influenced many cats who have imitated his cadence and lyrical delivery

(3) He has been a trend-setter even since the The Carter (e.g. fashion-wise, in terms of image and marketing, etc.) and despite his inconsistency as an artist, he has helped to define an era (both it's best and worst qualities)


The only thing that's keeping him from being GOAT is having a first-rate catalogue that can match Tupac's, Nas' or Jay-Z's.

1 - 50 did that long before Wayne

2 - That's not a good thing. His rhyme skills are sub par (rain on my head, call it brain storming)

3 - Tell me someone who follows his trends and I will show you someone who was influenced by Kanye
 
Wayne is not a trend setter he follows trends after they come up

50 had mixtapes floating before GRODT blew up which had a bigger culture change than any single wayne album

his flow was taken from hot nyc and philli rappers at the time his mixtape freestyles over took that game

Skateboarding and hip hop had collided at the turn of the ceuntry with kareem cambell and other black street skaters and white skaters had hip hop in their runs

Black actors had dressed in drag long before wayne had those skinny female jeans he stole from his daughter

Ross last year already had seizures to promote an upcoming album

Diddy already had suspect moments with men before wayne even kissed baby
 

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