If there is a God

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Huruma;2427821 said:
why should he be worshiped or 'obeyed'? Why should his subjective opinions be considered moral truths? Because he's more powerful than we are? In the same way that parents can be flawed and wrong, why can't an omnipotent, supernatural being be wrong?

i'll tell you why: because the bible tells us so. its 2011 and people still hanging on to every single word written by pre-historic white people. that does not makes sense but its the way of life. We live in a world where the people who run it are pretending to believe in that bullshit. the celebs. the politicians. they faking the funk for the dumb people. and the dumb people eat it up.
 
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imo, our lives are not our own, we have no recollection of our birth, nor do we know the day of our demise. This life is temporary, i consider it to be a loan. Worship does seem to be a heavy demand, if not worship, atleast some consideration and thanks should be in order for being given the opportunity to experience this great gift. Being wrong, or flawed does not negate the appreciation due to those who have raised you, clothed you, nurtured you, and even stood by you even though you are flawed and at times wrong. there would be no such thing as perfection, if imperfection did not exist. No right if there were no wrong. No good if there were no bad.

im no christian btw, not sure what god you are referring to, as there are so many. Im speaking of the creator, which i believe there is one.
 
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janklow;2428105 said:
i do not think this word means what you think it means

When you wake up in the morning and go through your planner, do you always put 'To be an ass" in the to do list section?
 
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Huruma;2427821 said:
why should he be worshiped or 'obeyed'? Why should his subjective opinions be considered moral truths? Because he's more powerful than we are? In the same way that parents can be flawed and wrong, why can't an omnipotent, supernatural being be wrong?

.....if god is the law and the truth...why would he not be obeyed?...u have 2 obey laws on earth...so why not the creator?...and how could u evn dare 2 compare parents(humans) 2 God?!..ur logic is flawed.....

Also....how can u say his words r merely opinions?....if the law is 2 stop at a red light..who r u 2 say "no..that's shouldn't be the law or the truth?
 
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#1 janklow is police

#2 god should be obeyed because he is the creator.. whats your other option? listen to white people?
 
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If u made a paper airplane and you had the power to tell it to fly, how would you react if the paper plane talked back to you and told you "No. I want to be a car."

Would you feel very happy as the Creator of this airplane? Would you not expect the airplane to follow and obey your every command? I mean, you are the Creator right? You have the power to crumple up the paper plane and make a new one or give the paper plane a 2nd chance at obeying you.

Now why wouldn't God demand the same kind of respect and adoration that is rightly due unto His name? He gave all of us life. If God didn't create us, we wouldnt be here right now. So just for the simple fact that God gave us life, is more than enough of a reason for us to worship Him.
 
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And Step;2428539 said:
When you wake up in the morning and go through your planner, do you always put 'To be an ass" in the to do list section?
no more than you put "beef with janklow for no discernible reason" in yours ... although i actually am suspecting you're doing that. because god forbid we comment on factual inaccuracies on the internet for any reason OTHER than "to be an ass."

professor x;2428626 said:
#1 janklow is police
#1 professor x obviously developed hurt feelings over people's disbelief that he personally hears a UFO regularly
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;2428773 said:
If u made a paper airplane and you had the power to tell it to fly, how would you react if the paper plane talked back to you and told you "No. I want to be a car."...
I'd be impressed that I could create a paper airplane that could think for itself and that could communicate its thoughts with me.

I certainly wouldn't be disappointed in the paper airplane for doing something that I gave it the ability to do.
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;2428773 said:
If u made a paper airplane and you had the power to tell it to fly, how would you react if the paper plane talked back to you and told you "No. I want to be a car."

Would you feel very happy as the Creator of this airplane? Would you not expect the airplane to follow and obey your every command? I mean, you are the Creator right? You have the power to crumple up the paper plane and make a new one or give the paper plane a 2nd chance at obeying you.

Now why wouldn't God demand the same kind of respect and adoration that is rightly due unto His name? He gave all of us life. If God didn't create us, we wouldnt be here right now. So just for the simple fact that God gave us life, is more than enough of a reason for us to worship Him.

To be honest, If I loved the paper airplane I would ask why does it want to be a car, and respect its wishes.

If I didn't give a shit about the paper airplane I would be like "wtf." Then I would slowly tear it apart.
 
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Huruma;2427821 said:
why should he be worshiped or 'obeyed'? Why should his subjective opinions be considered moral truths? Because he's more powerful than we are? In the same way that parents can be flawed and wrong, why can't an omnipotent, supernatural being be wrong?

If there is a God, why question His Existence? Why question His Ways? There is the impression that God is subjected to man's understanding of Him.
 
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flipn50;2429908 said:
God is merely our subconscious talking to us.

make sure its actually God doing the talking.. the United States and Europeans have corrupted technology, beyond belief..
 
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fiat_money;2429011 said:
I'd be impressed that I could create a paper airplane that could think for itself and that could communicate its thoughts with me.

I certainly wouldn't be disappointed in the paper airplane for doing something that I gave it the ability to do.

I agree.

Would you not expect the airplane to follow and obey your every command? I mean, you are the Creator right? You have the power to crumple up the paper plane and make a new one or give the paper plane a 2nd chance at obeying you.

Now why wouldn't God demand the same kind of respect and adoration that is rightly due unto His name? He gave all of us life. If God didn't create us, we wouldnt be here right now. So just for the simple fact that God gave us life, is more than enough of a reason for us to worship Him.

I don't understand the idea that you owe someone respect, adoration or obedience because they created you. To seriously expect adoration or obedience from someone because you created them is beyond obnoxious and narcissistic. You created them for your own selfish reasons, it was never asked for. Regardless of how they got here, I don't see why they deserve any less respect than you do. We don't allow human parents to torture their children because they created them, children are (supposed to be) given the same basic human rights that their parents are.

.....if god is the law and the truth...why would he not be obeyed?...u have 2 obey laws on earth...so why not the creator?...

I think the onus is on you to show why he should be obeyed anymore than anyone else should. Laws were created by flawed human beings, they aren't written in stone, they're open to revision because we realize that laws have often been shown to be unethical or unreasonable. Human laws have to be justified, why should God's laws be unquestionable simply because he/she/it is God?

and how could u evn dare 2 compare parents(humans) 2 God?!

Why shouldn't I compare humans to God?

how can u say his words r merely opinions?....

Why should his word be considered anything other than his subjective opinion? The onus is on you (or him/her/it) to show why God's word should be accepted as an absolute truth, the same onus is on parents, the government and all other self-proclaimed authority figures to justify their claims or force/coercion. Authority doesn't validate itself.

if the law is 2 stop at a red light..who r u 2 say "no..that's shouldn't be the law or the truth?

Who am I not to? Who were the flawed human beings who decided to elect the law in the first place to do so?
 
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NICK CANNON JR..... IT'S LIKE TALKIN 2 A BRICK WALL WHEN TALKIN 2 YOU... BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT... LIVE YOUR LIFE HOW YOU WISH....

IN THE END, WE'LL SEE....

1ST CORITHIANS 3:19-20

FOR THE WISDOM OF THIS WORLD IS FOOLISHNESS IN GOD's SIGHT. AS IT IS WRITTEN:

"HE CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS";

AND AGAIN, "THE LORD KNOWS THAT THE THOUGHTS OF THE WISE ARE FUTILE.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

THATS YOU ALLLLLLL DAY HURUMA!!!
 
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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;2428773 said:
If u made a paper airplane and you had the power to tell it to fly, how would you react if the paper plane talked back to you and told you "No. I want to be a car."

Would you feel very happy as the Creator of this airplane? Would you not expect the airplane to follow and obey your every command? I mean, you are the Creator right? You have the power to crumple up the paper plane and make a new one or give the paper plane a 2nd chance at obeying you.

Now why wouldn't God demand the same kind of respect and adoration that is rightly due unto His name? He gave all of us life. If God didn't create us, we wouldnt be here right now. So just for the simple fact that God gave us life, is more than enough of a reason for us to worship Him.

Why are you comparing "gods'" reason with ours? If I made a paper airplane, and I truly loved this airplane, and it asked to be a car, I would turn it into a car if I had the power to do so. I would not expect to be worshiped by this paper airplane just for the sake of being worshiped.
 
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umm you should give thanks to him for allowing u to walk talk see etc. its common sense. without him you wouldn't even exist because he created your entire family. The thread should say y dont people believe in god as much as they did back in the day. smh. Happy Easter to you and ya'll fam.
 
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God wants our obedience because He loves us and wants us to live after our flesh has passed. If u are not obeying Him you are obeying satan. U stand for evil. If u stand for evil you will die in spirit and you will not be close with God at the day of judgment. God wants all his children. His grace gives us the opportunity to make right with our lives in His name.

Hes not just some guy sittin on a throne bein served grapes while 3 ppl fan Him. He's being patient with the lost hoping they will invite Him and jesus into their lives.
 
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