If the Black Community achieved what Malcolm X set out for (Black Nationalism).....

[Amotekun]

Cosign all knowledge being dropped on Garvey the GOD

Every black man should have this book:

I copped that about a month ago. It's so deep gotta stop just to contemplate the principles. Can't just blow through it.

 

[KingJamal]

You can hear the influence of Garvey on Malcolm in this video....

http://youtu.be/snzSkny3SZ0

One of my favorite Malcolm speeches

 

[Bully_Pulpit]

Dope thread

 

[DreadsRIGHT]

I need to get my hands on that book, Ill go get it next weekend for sure THANK YOU FOR THE DROP

If we don't have a thread dedicated to the important literary works of black people we should make that, drop knowledge, and get that stickied. This book here bought me to tears...

 

[KingJamal]

 

[Dr.Chemix]

That's the old Malcolm though...

When he came back from Mecca he wasn't too much about nationalism



Malcolm found out the truth...it doesn't boil down to color lines and barriers

It comes down to teachings, ignorance, isolation, victimization and class structure

When Malcolm came back from Mecca and saw people of all colors united in a belief

When he stepped out of the country and seen the horseshit that western society commits to

That's what changed his perspective. But before unity with all colors he wanted black folks to find their identity. White folks began inquiring about joining his movement. He preferred that each race correct the problems within first. He suggested that white folks open up their own chapters designed to teach the truth of equality.

Peep his autobiograhpy...Malcolm X was on to something and they silenced him. Malcolm would have changed many things that would not have been allowed.

Think about it...homosexuality, pop music, gentrification, Trayvon Martin-I truly believe if Malcolm was not assassinated, these things would not have been as strong and in the same bed as they are today. Hell, his impact is still felt and heard.

Malcolm X, one of the greatest. Sad but true, if you didn't get popped in that era, you weren't about the struggle. (ahem, jesse and al...I'm talking about you)

The bolded is so unequivocally false I stopped reading right there. Not only did X come back as a black nationalist, he took it further than he did before Hajj. He started traveling all over Europe preaching black nationalism and having meetings with African councils. Even MLK before his assassination started to turn away from integration.

lol this dude said unequivocally for dramatic purposes, lol

How was it false? He was a black nationalist BEFORE he went to Mecca. When he went to Mecca, he saw ALL people of color there. How would he be a black nationalist after witnessing brown, white, red, yellow all united under Allah? So you're saying he wasn't a black nationalist with N.O.I.? The very nation that was high on black nationalism? It doesn't make sense...explain

Did yall read the book or yall just judging from random speeches, spike lee's movie and your own thoughts? Cause I read the book and Malcolm changed dramatically after he left from Mecca.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

 

[KingJamal]

The thing that pissed me off about MLK was that he subscribed to Gandhi's ideals when Gandhi's skinny punk ass thought black people were inferior his damn self

 

[Dr.Chemix]

The thing that pissed me off about MLK was that he subscribed to Gandhi's ideals when Gandhi's skinny punk ass thought black people were inferior his damn self

When you eat an orange, you peel the skin and pluck the seed before consuming...

 

[Amotekun]

The thing that pissed me off about MLK was that he subscribed to Gandhi's ideals when Gandhi's skinny punk ass thought black people were inferior his damn self

Ghandi stole his shit from African principles int he first place. If i'm remembering correctly, Ghandi spent time in Africa before he went back to India.

 

[-Vincenzo-]

i love malcolm and he i think he is on point but some of you exaggerate the feeling of unity white people have. you say blacks should keep their money in black hands, which i basically support but if we are realistic:

blacks are net gainers in the interacial trade. 80% of music sold by black artists is bought by white consumers, oprah or tiger, 2 of the wealthiest blacks, didnt get their money from black people. obama did get a lot more votes from whites than from blacks.

as much as they hate us, they love us. no cooning, just a sober perspective. it's more about how we utilize these funds, thats where the problem lies.

But is that a good thing? Of that supposed 80% of black music being purchased by whites I would wager that well over half of it is bullshit rap that has pretty much taken over the game. That's why no one wants to make any hip-hop of relevance, substance or that speaks on real issues. The majority of consumers who are white can't relate. You think some random Frat guy wants to hear about police brutality, or teenage pregnancy? No he just needs something simple and mindless to listen to while he's playing beer pong and date-raping girls at Frat parties.

Tiger doesn't consider himself black, nor associates with black people in any way. Out of all the women he committed adultery with he didn't have even one black jump-off. I guess that can be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it, but bottom line is, he's not fucking with black people.

Oprah is riding for white America first and foremost. When was the last time she paid more than lip service to any real black issues? Sure she may have donated some money here and there but just because I give a bum a dollar doesn't mean I'm fighting homelessness.

Obama is no different. He comes out and says he supports gay marriage, but can't speak on things like: police brutality, and the modern serfdom that is the prison industrial complex? He sent his henchman to Haiti when the earthquakes happened instead of going himself and it seemed like the media had to practically twist his arm in order for him to even speak on the Trayvon Martin issue.

The lesson in all this is the more you allow a group to fund you the more of an allegiance you have to them.

i fully agree with you but thats what i mean it's about how we utilize this money. i would argue that whites are so infatuated with us that they would still keep some money comin if you be pro-black. nas got a good number of white fans but he doesnt make the kind of rap you describe.

bottom line is we shouldnt try to please other groups and stop speaking for our issues so we keep their cash flowin, but if they dont mind supportin us while we do our own thing, go for it.

 

[Triple B's]

Wow appreciates this and threads of this nature.

 

[desertrain10]

Cosign all knowledge being dropped on Garvey the GOD

Every black man should have this book:

every black man and women should own this book...

 

[rip.dilla]

Dopest thread dropped in this sub-forum in ages

Appreciate the 'ledge dropped

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

If you really think about it us Blacks in this hemisphere really have no incentive to trust each other based of events in history alone. Our ancestors sold each other out, back-stabbed, crossed, etc..... whatever you want to call it, because of tribalism, greed, & other factors of the day.

The Jews established a singular & unified religion and a written tradition that has allowed them to survive through their numerous captivities & diaspora to sustain their cultural identity. My lineage is Ashanti but where is their cultural influence in my life?

2 tears in a bucket, every man for himself. And believe I don't trust none of y'all so-call brothers, Malcolm & Marcus warned about.

Here is another good read on this topic....Check it out

 

[Shuffington]

I always think about that after watching documentaries on the Negro league and the Harlem globetrotters.

The Negro League had some of the best players in baseball history.. they just had to deal with a racist North America. The Majors was the "premiere" league. The players were vying for an opportunity to not only bust some ass in the major league by competing with the "best"... but also to make good money playing to large crowds all over racist North America.

Its also sad how integration broke down most black business networks. Players would travel by bus and stay in Black homes or hotels and eat at black owned restaurants ect. There was a thriving network that was a direct reflection of segregation.

 

[KingJamal]

BUMP

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Dope thread, but most black people and especially the youth are ignorant of this

Yall inspired me to find my Huey Newton books lol

 

[UPTOWN]

If his goals were carried out wed prolly be in a simular situation to the jews in america

I think we would be past them frankly. We have a lot of shit going for us in a fucked up state, if we could pool our finances(like garvey wanted) along with our natural talents.....

We'd be running shit, but obviously jews already know this, too bad we dont.

Thats what I want to happen with the black actors in hollywood. Pool their money and create a black hollywood. I mean if ur gonna complain about not enough acting, producing, and writing jobs this is the solution.

youre right .... but at the same time whites are gonna burn it to the ground off the strength of some shady incident like they do with any other stand alone black achievement

 

[UPTOWN]

I always think about that after watching documentaries on the Negro league and the Harlem globetrotters.

The Negro League had some of the best players in baseball history.. they just had to deal with a racist North America. The Majors was the "premiere" league. The players were vying for an opportunity to not only bust some ass in the major league by competing with the "best"... but also to make good money playing to large crowds all over racist North America.

Its also sad how integration broke down most black business networks. Players would travel by bus and stay in Black homes or hotels and eat at black owned restaurants ect. There was a thriving network that was a direct reflection of segregation.

props

 

[jayvon32]

Co-sign this powerful Thread. Considering I always thought more highly of Malcolm X than MLK Jr just for the simple fact he was uncompromising and understood that financial, community, and political unity was the key to black advancement and pride. No matter if its from the Jewish, Asian, Japanese race they understand the concept of cultural self preservation. MLK Jr started to become less conforming towards the end of his life, which made him a liability than a political asset he was once before.

Plus Malcolm X was getting to a point of what MLK Jr wasnt able to do, develop international relations with country dignitaries to assist in the cause. Plus if they would have came together. We as black would be much better off politically and financially in strength