If more African Americans were Jews it wouldn't be this way.

[zzombie]

Jesus isn't just the son of God that is a title many can claim. He's the son of man

 

[zzombie]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

Apparently it doesn't line up. And that's coming from the people who actually wrote down what was crackin then

It does line up that is why the jews originally called Jesus messiah. We went over this already even some of the temple priest recognized who he was.

 

[phukkyou2]

jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too

God has no image and the pictures of jesus are not the source of faith once again you are talking nonsense, don't think that because someone creates a picture of what they think jesus looked like then that means all christians think that's what he looked like.

once again i am not a jew i am a believer the teachings of christ and christ had an earthly name that translates as jesus. The messiah Jesus the Christ said he was the son of god and the son of man. if you want to be a black jew go right on ahead

Regardless it's still idolatry.

 

[zzombie]

jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too

God has no image and the pictures of jesus are not the source of faith once again you are talking nonsense, don't think that because someone creates a picture of what they think jesus looked like then that means all christians think that's what he looked like.

once again i am not a jew i am a believer the teachings of christ and christ had an earthly name that translates as jesus. The messiah Jesus the Christ said he was the son of god and the son of man. if you want to be a black jew go right on ahead

Regardless it's still idolatry.

You clearly don't know the definition of what idolatry is

 

[phukkyou2]

jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too

God has no image and the pictures of jesus are not the source of faith once again you are talking nonsense, don't think that because someone creates a picture of what they think jesus looked like then that means all christians think that's what he looked like.

once again i am not a jew i am a believer the teachings of christ and christ had an earthly name that translates as jesus. The messiah Jesus the Christ said he was the son of god and the son of man. if you want to be a black jew go right on ahead

Regardless it's still idolatry.

You clearly don't know the definition of what idolatry is

Yeah I do. Worshipping a White Black Guy

 

[zzombie]

jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too

God has no image and the pictures of jesus are not the source of faith once again you are talking nonsense, don't think that because someone creates a picture of what they think jesus looked like then that means all christians think that's what he looked like.

once again i am not a jew i am a believer the teachings of christ and christ had an earthly name that translates as jesus. The messiah Jesus the Christ said he was the son of god and the son of man. if you want to be a black jew go right on ahead

Regardless it's still idolatry.

You clearly don't know the definition of what idolatry is

Yeah I do. Worshipping a White Black Guy

And who would that be????? No matter how many pictures people draw christians don't actually worship that image and jesus certainly was not white

 

[phukkyou2]

jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too

God has no image and the pictures of jesus are not the source of faith once again you are talking nonsense, don't think that because someone creates a picture of what they think jesus looked like then that means all christians think that's what he looked like.

once again i am not a jew i am a believer the teachings of christ and christ had an earthly name that translates as jesus. The messiah Jesus the Christ said he was the son of god and the son of man. if you want to be a black jew go right on ahead

Regardless it's still idolatry.

You clearly don't know the definition of what idolatry is

Yeah I do. Worshipping a White Black Guy

And who would that be????? No matter how many pictures people draw christians don't actually worship that image and jesus certainly was not white

If they didn't then everybody would be Protestants and no one would call him Jesus

 

[rodneyskinner]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

It does only through scriptural interpretation. He would be a lie if it was based on the PROMISE given to Israel. If I sign a promissory note it is signed under the guise that I am going to get what was promised to me on that note. In Israel's case God promised them a Messiah to restore the Kingdom. So Jesus didn't do that. Israel's awful sin was rejecting the thing given instead of what was promised.

In Human court you cannot advertise to me a Lamborghini's for the price of a Maxima. When I come to receive my Lamborghini you can't give me a Maxima. I can sue you in Human court for fraud. How can God's Morality be less than Human morality. Either Israel's Messiah has not returned or God didn't fulfill his promise with Jesus. You cannot quote some ancillary scriptures to produce anecdotal evidence that this is the Messiah and he not do the thing promised. Or God didn't fulfill the promise he led me to believe I would receive. The Devil would be proven right in his questions to Eve if that is the case. You can't start touting to me that the Maxima has the same color as promised and the same turn signals as promised.and that justifies not giving me the Lamborghini. You have to give me what was promised. The morality of God is less than that of Man's if this is the case. So he destroyed the second Temple when he defrauded the people. He allowed the siege of Masada to kill dozens of innocent people who would in a Human court would have been found victims of fraud.

 

[zzombie]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

It does only through scriptural interpretation. He would be a lie if it was based on the PROMISE given to Israel. If I sign a promissory note it is signed under the guise that I am going to get what was promised to me on that note. In Israel's case God promised them a Messiah to restore the Kingdom. So Jesus didn't do that. Israel's awful sin was rejecting the thing given instead of what was promised.

In Human court you cannot advertise to me a Lamborghini's for the price of a Maxima. When I come to receive my Lamborghini you can't give me a Maxima. I can sue you in Human court for fraud. How can God's Morality be less than Human morality. Either Israel's Messiah has not returned or God didn't fulfill his promise with Jesus. You cannot quote some ancillary scriptures to produce anecdotal evidence that this is the Messiah and he not do the thing promised. Or God didn't fulfill the promise he led me to believe I would receive. The Devil would be proven right in his questions to Eve if that is the case. You can't start touting to me that the Maxima has the same color as promised and the same turn signals as promised.and that justifies not giving me the Lamborghini. You have to give me what was promised. The morality of God is less than that of Man's if this is the case. So he destroyed the second Temple when he defrauded the people. He allowed the siege of Masada to kill dozens of innocent people who would in a Human court would have been found victims of fraud.

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

 

[kingblaze84]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

It does only through scriptural interpretation. He would be a lie if it was based on the PROMISE given to Israel. If I sign a promissory note it is signed under the guise that I am going to get what was promised to me on that note. In Israel's case God promised them a Messiah to restore the Kingdom. So Jesus didn't do that. Israel's awful sin was rejecting the thing given instead of what was promised.

In Human court you cannot advertise to me a Lamborghini's for the price of a Maxima. When I come to receive my Lamborghini you can't give me a Maxima. I can sue you in Human court for fraud. How can God's Morality be less than Human morality. Either Israel's Messiah has not returned or God didn't fulfill his promise with Jesus. You cannot quote some ancillary scriptures to produce anecdotal evidence that this is the Messiah and he not do the thing promised. Or God didn't fulfill the promise he led me to believe I would receive. The Devil would be proven right in his questions to Eve if that is the case. You can't start touting to me that the Maxima has the same color as promised and the same turn signals as promised.and that justifies not giving me the Lamborghini. You have to give me what was promised. The morality of God is less than that of Man's if this is the case. So he destroyed the second Temple when he defrauded the people. He allowed the siege of Masada to kill dozens of innocent people who would in a Human court would have been found victims of fraud.

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

Jesus didn't complete the most important parts of the Jewish prophecies, creating world peace and convincing the world on what the "one true god" is. Today, 70% of the world is not Christian. 99% is not Jewish lol. And we don't have world peace yet, many wars and crimes going on. Did Jesus forget about the other prophecies? Is he unable to fulfill them? Could be both.

 

[zzombie]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

It does only through scriptural interpretation. He would be a lie if it was based on the PROMISE given to Israel. If I sign a promissory note it is signed under the guise that I am going to get what was promised to me on that note. In Israel's case God promised them a Messiah to restore the Kingdom. So Jesus didn't do that. Israel's awful sin was rejecting the thing given instead of what was promised.

In Human court you cannot advertise to me a Lamborghini's for the price of a Maxima. When I come to receive my Lamborghini you can't give me a Maxima. I can sue you in Human court for fraud. How can God's Morality be less than Human morality. Either Israel's Messiah has not returned or God didn't fulfill his promise with Jesus. You cannot quote some ancillary scriptures to produce anecdotal evidence that this is the Messiah and he not do the thing promised. Or God didn't fulfill the promise he led me to believe I would receive. The Devil would be proven right in his questions to Eve if that is the case. You can't start touting to me that the Maxima has the same color as promised and the same turn signals as promised.and that justifies not giving me the Lamborghini. You have to give me what was promised. The morality of God is less than that of Man's if this is the case. So he destroyed the second Temple when he defrauded the people. He allowed the siege of Masada to kill dozens of innocent people who would in a Human court would have been found victims of fraud.

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

Jesus didn't complete the most important parts of the Jewish prophecies, creating world peace and convincing the world on what the "one true god" is. Today, 70% of the world is not Christian. 99% is not Jewish lol. And we don't have world peace yet, many wars and crimes going on. Did Jesus forget about the other prophecies? Is he unable to fulfill them? Could be both.

Have you ever heard christians say we serve a living god??? jesus is still alive and is bringing about the plan of salvation for humankind

 

[kingblaze84]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

It does only through scriptural interpretation. He would be a lie if it was based on the PROMISE given to Israel. If I sign a promissory note it is signed under the guise that I am going to get what was promised to me on that note. In Israel's case God promised them a Messiah to restore the Kingdom. So Jesus didn't do that. Israel's awful sin was rejecting the thing given instead of what was promised.

In Human court you cannot advertise to me a Lamborghini's for the price of a Maxima. When I come to receive my Lamborghini you can't give me a Maxima. I can sue you in Human court for fraud. How can God's Morality be less than Human morality. Either Israel's Messiah has not returned or God didn't fulfill his promise with Jesus. You cannot quote some ancillary scriptures to produce anecdotal evidence that this is the Messiah and he not do the thing promised. Or God didn't fulfill the promise he led me to believe I would receive. The Devil would be proven right in his questions to Eve if that is the case. You can't start touting to me that the Maxima has the same color as promised and the same turn signals as promised.and that justifies not giving me the Lamborghini. You have to give me what was promised. The morality of God is less than that of Man's if this is the case. So he destroyed the second Temple when he defrauded the people. He allowed the siege of Masada to kill dozens of innocent people who would in a Human court would have been found victims of fraud.

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

Jesus didn't complete the most important parts of the Jewish prophecies, creating world peace and convincing the world on what the "one true god" is. Today, 70% of the world is not Christian. 99% is not Jewish lol. And we don't have world peace yet, many wars and crimes going on. Did Jesus forget about the other prophecies? Is he unable to fulfill them? Could be both.

Have you ever heard christians say we serve a living god??? jesus is still alive and is bringing about the plan of salvation for humankind

I doubt we will live to see him fulfill the prophecies. Enjoy the wait though lol

 

[rodneyskinner]

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

You are wrong. God promised Israel the land to time indefinite.

LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, "Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; 15for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever.

This wasn't a new heaven or a new Earth. That is why they say Israel broke the covenant with Jesus. That is not true because Jesus wasn't fulfilling the covenant arrangement given to the Israelites by God. The Israelites weren't performing false worship. You can't take the statement of a few people at Jesus's trial by the Romans to represent the view of all Jews when they said we have no king but Caesar. No evidence that the Jews of the Second temple ever broke the covenant arrangement with God. Lots of Evidence that they were abandoned by god despite his promises.

 

[zzombie]

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

You are wrong. God promised Israel the land to time indefinite.

LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, "Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; 15for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever.

This wasn't a new heaven or a new Earth. That is why they say Israel broke the covenant with Jesus. That is not true because Jesus wasn't fulfilling the covenant arrangement given to the Israelites by God. The Israelites weren't performing false worship. You can't take the statement of a few people at Jesus's trial by the Romans to represent the view of all Jews when they said we have no king but Caesar. No evidence that the Jews of the Second temple ever broke the covenant arrangement with God. Lots of Evidence that they were abandoned by god despite his promises.

Yes they did preform false worship by not having their hearts in it and just going through the motions, they even had money changers at the temple thus desecrating the temples. All these things they did many times in the past. And God punished them but brought a chosen remnant back into the land he promised just like how today the Jewish people are back in the land he promised them

 

[SELASI_i]

Them ain't the Jews thats in Israel bruh

 

[zzombie]

Them ain't the Jews thats in Israel bruh

Actually yes some of them are and in any case all you have to do to be Jewish is convert or be born into it.

 

[rodneyskinner]

How many heavens are there and what is the third heaven Paul speaks of in 2

Heaven is the inheritance of all believers where there is “fulness of joy,” everlasting blessedness. The “place, of our inheritance where Jesus went ahead to “prepare” for us (John 14:2) that we may be with him, where he is.

Ahh. I'll put it in short form for you.

Neh 9:6 Clearly tells you that the STARS live in the HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS.
http://biblehub.com/nehemiah/9-6.htm

Those Angels are the stars or the heavenly host.

Deuteronomy 17:3 tells you not to worship them but clearly identifies them as stars. Sun and Moon but who are the host of heaven
http://biblehub.com/2_kings/23-5.htm clearly identifies the Angels as stars

Cross reference the word star at Job 25:5 and Judges 5:20. Now how can Israel's enemies fight with the stars. We reconigze them as angels.

So where is Gods throne and where are his angels space.

1 Kings 22:19 and 2 Chronicles 18:18

This also shows how the bible took bits and pieces and spliced them together. Noticed their is a clear delineation between the word heavenly host and host. Who was the God of Hosts in

1 Sam 1:3

The god of Armies. Not the god of Angel Armies that's not what the scripture says in Hebrew. But in order to keep you from its polytheistic roots they are saying the god of Angel armies.

This has a point to the original topic. 1 Sam. 4:4 reads in direct Hebrew

and·he-is-sending the·people Shiloh and·they-are-carrying from·there coffer-of covenant-of Yahweh-of hosts dwelling-of the·cherubim and·there two-of sons-of Eli Hophni and·Phinehas

with coffer-of covenant-of the·Elohim

What is a cherubim. Astrology can answer that. It is why the ark of the covenant has the cherubim on the ark. Cherubim are the 4 living creatures of Astrology. 4 fixed axis points in astrology. The bible clearly identifies them as such in Ezekiel with the Bull, Lion, Man and Eagle. This was around in astrology long before the bible was conceived of.

So you can't begin to understand the bible and it won't make sense until you acknowledge the very basics that God is talking about heaven as being in space and stars. Then the entire book starts to unfold. Complimentary to that you can't understand the bible just by reading scripture because they add on words that are not their in order to meet an interpretation. When you read it without the interpretive words then it starts to make clear coherent sense.

 

[rodneyskinner]

"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

Most African Americans and this can be proven by a genetics test are from West Africa. It can also be proven by the cultures and traditions that they carried with them. Santeria for instance. The Spanish Music. The Brazilian fighting moves all come from West African cultures. Not the middle east. That is why there is so much pagan roots in the catholic religions. Yes the religions were forced upon you because they used Leviticus to justify enslaving you and also used noah's son curse to do it. You would not have been allowed to sold into bondage if you were a person of the book. This was not only European Law but Muslim Law. Well documented. You are not Moors. Moors still lived in spain etc. Also Hitler was a Moor. LOL. Its nothing to be embarrassed of. You shouldn't be embarrassed to be a WEST AFRICAN. Pagan. EVEN ROOTS the movie held more to historicity than the foolish Idea of black moorism populating the US. Moors were organized and could easily defend themselves from a population decimation. The idea doesn't even make sense.

 

[zzombie]

How many heavens are there and what is the third heaven Paul speaks of in 2

Heaven is the inheritance of all believers where there is “fulness of joy,” everlasting blessedness. The “place, of our inheritance where Jesus went ahead to “prepare” for us (John 14:2) that we may be with him, where he is.

Ahh. I'll put it in short form for you.

Neh 9:6 Clearly tells you that the STARS live in the HEAVENS OF THE HEAVENS.
http://biblehub.com/nehemiah/9-6.htm

Those Angels are the stars or the heavenly host.

Deuteronomy 17:3 tells you not to worship them but clearly identifies them as stars. Sun and Moon but who are the host of heaven
http://biblehub.com/2_kings/23-5.htm clearly identifies the Angels as stars

Cross reference the word star at Job 25:5 and Judges 5:20. Now how can Israel's enemies fight with the stars. We reconigze them as angels.

So where is Gods throne and where are his angels space.

1 Kings 22:19 and 2 Chronicles 18:18

This also shows how the bible took bits and pieces and spliced them together. Noticed their is a clear delineation between the word heavenly host and host. Who was the God of Hosts in

1 Sam 1:3

The god of Armies. Not the god of Angel Armies that's not what the scripture says in Hebrew. But in order to keep you from its polytheistic roots they are saying the god of Angel armies.

This has a point to the original topic. 1 Sam. 4:4 reads in direct Hebrew

and·he-is-sending the·people Shiloh and·they-are-carrying from·there coffer-of covenant-of Yahweh-of hosts dwelling-of the·cherubim and·there two-of sons-of Eli Hophni and·Phinehas

with coffer-of covenant-of the·Elohim

What is a cherubim. Astrology can answer that. It is why the ark of the covenant has the cherubim on the ark. Cherubim are the 4 living creatures of Astrology. 4 fixed axis points in astrology. The bible clearly identifies them as such in Ezekiel with the Bull, Lion, Man and Eagle. This was around in astrology long before the bible was conceived of.

So you can't begin to understand the bible and it won't make sense until you acknowledge the very basics that God is talking about heaven as being in space and stars. Then the entire book starts to unfold. Complimentary to that you can't understand the bible just by reading scripture because they add on words that are not their in order to meet an interpretation. When you read it without the interpretive words then it starts to make clear coherent sense.

So You are splitting words and my posts the heaven in the bible is not only a reference to space

read nehemiah 9:6 again it lists all the places god creates starting with heaven then it talks about the highest heaven the host/armies of the highest heaven are representated as stars in some translations as angels are called as stars in the scripture for example

Revelation 1:20, "As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches."

Job 38:7, "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

that part you got right but you are importing your own personal ideology into the rest of it because there is no indication from what your quoted that the heavens being talked about in the bold has anything to do with only the second heaven WHICH IS SPACE.

NOT TO MENTION THAT THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IN THE BIBLE WERE HEAVEN IS TALKED ABOUT AND THEY ARE CLEARLY NOT TALKING ABOUT SPACE.

KINGS8:27 “But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!

so even if the heaven of heavens is space as you think we know that there is a higher place

 

[rodneyskinner]

Israel misunderstood the promise/contract and that's the reason for so many on them being confused about what the messiah was coming to accomplish.

You are wrong. God promised Israel the land to time indefinite.

LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him, "Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward; 15for all the land which you see, I will give it to you and to your descendants forever.

This wasn't a new heaven or a new Earth. That is why they say Israel broke the covenant with Jesus. That is not true because Jesus wasn't fulfilling the covenant arrangement given to the Israelites by God. The Israelites weren't performing false worship. You can't take the statement of a few people at Jesus's trial by the Romans to represent the view of all Jews when they said we have no king but Caesar. No evidence that the Jews of the Second temple ever broke the covenant arrangement with God. Lots of Evidence that they were abandoned by god despite his promises.

Yes they did preform false worship by not having their hearts in it and just going through the motions, they even had money changers at the temple thus desecrating the temples. All these things they did many times in the past. And God punished them but brought a chosen remnant back into the land he promised just like how today the Jewish people are back in the land he promised them

Seriously they didn't have their hearts in it and were going through the motions? That's why god abandoned them. They fought for over 500 years the ruling authority for their autonomy. They had been fighting wars with the ruling nation since the Greeks. The Macabean wars all the way up to Masada. Trust me if you commit suicide after the Romans pull off a Miracle of engineering like God was on their side you you were all in. If not all of those people would have subjugated themselves to Cesar. They didn't because they believe with all their heart God was going to deliver them. I don't get it the Christian Greek Scriptures fail the test worst than the Hebrew scriptures and that entire Hebrew scriptures admittedly by all is 90% hogwash. Yet we scare people with the thought that their eternal salvation is hindering on them believing. Sorry but you CAN'T HOLD PEOPLE TO ACCOUNT WITHOUT SOME ACCOUNTABILITY THAT'S MY MESSAGE TO JESUS or whoever wants to condemn me to hell.