If more African Americans were Jews it wouldn't be this way.

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zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire
 
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Is it true that the total acceptance of Jesus as God wasn't recognized until the council of nicaea in 325ad?
 
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SELASI_i;8455002 said:
Is it true that the total acceptance of Jesus as God wasn't recognized until the council of nicaea in 325ad?

Alot happened there. But Christians were called Catholics way before Constantine was even born. And they had tranditions n such, a lot of groups/people had their own ways i would assume thru Feeling/Intuition/Conscious.

I'd also assume that's all Constantine did as well. In fact, I'm sure he didn't have as much to do with the actual rituals & Word as despisers seem to believe. If he Elected [volunteer] Entities to come in and come to a "diplomatic" agreement on something while he oversees it is virtually the same way the United States political system operates. Congress & President and probably some Supreme Court Justices somewhere in the cut.

I'm sorry. But I'm not about to just jump up and say "fuck the next religion" like a gump. that's part of what's got us all in this shit in the first place.
 
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.
 
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zzombie;8455047 said:
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah
 
phukkyou2;8455108 said:
zzombie;8455047 said:
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is
 
zzombie;8455174 said:
phukkyou2;8455108 said:
zzombie;8455047 said:
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

 
zzombie;8450380 said:
rodneyskinner;8450298 said:
"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.
 
Next Gem for disproving all of these books of the faith. Point to heaven. Point to Hell. We've been to both and we know there isn't anything there. When astronomers disproved the existence of a God living above the clouds in space they came up with Taco Bell Heaven. 7 layer Burrito heaven. God does not live in Outer Space. There is no hell on the earth. 7 Layer burrito heaven didn't exist. Way to prove. The original Jews had 1 word for the sky it was heaven. That included the clouds and stars. They seperated cloud heaven from space heaven by calling them heaven and the highest heaven also known as the heaven of the heavens. We've been all over space and even in the depiction of Jesus returning in Revelation depicts its from space well no god in space. Now watch they'll defend 7 layer burrito heaven with everything but the Bible while I debunked it with only the bible. The bible doesn't have any explanation that says an address of God @ 1 heaven of the heaven of the heaven of the heaven of the heaven (where the gorbots live) of the heaven of the Heavens. I think the Old Testament, New Testament, and the Koran are pretty big Business cards for god that could hold that address.
 
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phukkyou2;8455426 said:
zzombie;8455174 said:
phukkyou2;8455108 said:
zzombie;8455047 said:
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines
 
rodneyskinner;8455503 said:
zzombie;8450380 said:
rodneyskinner;8450298 said:
"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.
 
How many heavens are there and what is the third heaven Paul speaks of in 2 Corinthians 12:

The Hebrew word for “heavens” is shamayim, it is in a plural form, meaning “heights,” “elevations.” It is found in the first verse of the Bible (Genesis 1:1; 2:1). The Bible teaches in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, he did not make another heaven after this time. The phrase “heavens and earth” are used to indicate the whole universe (Genesis 1:1; Jeremiah 23:24; Acts 17:24). According to the Jewish tradition from the Bible there were three heavens. All are attributed to God as the creator. Psalm 102:25 “Of old You laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands.”

There are several other words used in the Hebrew, the word marom is also used (Psalms 68:18; 93:4; 102:19, etc.) as equivalent to shamayim. Hebrew galgal, literally a “wheel,” is rendered “heaven” in Psalms 77:18 (RSV, “whirlwind”). Hebrew shahak, is translated “sky” (Deuteronomy 33:26; Job 37:18; Psalms 18:11), plural “clouds” (Job 35:5; 36:28; Psalms 68:34, “heavens”), referring to the firmament.

The Bible speaks of three heavens not 7 and these are not dimensions). The first being our immediate atmosphere, the second is outer space as far as it stretches, and the third is the place where God himself dwells. What Jesus called the “Father's house.”

First heaven - The firmament, Earths Atmosphere -which is the immediate sky, where the “fowls of the heaven” (Genesis 2:19; 7:3,23; Psalms 8:8, etc.), “the eagles of heaven” (Lamentations 4:19), it is our atmosphere that surrounds the earth.

Gen 1:14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night.” The first heaven consists of the clouds and the atmosphere, the heavens above us, until we come to the stars.

Psalms 78: 23-23 “Yet He had commanded the clouds above, and opened the doors of heaven, had rained down manna on them to eat, and given them of the bread of heaven.”

The expression doors of heaven or windows of heaven involved the firmament, our atmosphere. Descriptions used of this heaven is from where God would provide food or rain. Genesis 7:11-12: “the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights.” Genesis 8:2: “The fountains of the deep and the windows of heaven were also stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained” Malachi 3:10 Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.” In reference to an abundant harvest of crops.“

(Deuteronomy 11:17 “Then the LORD's anger will burn against you, and he will shut the heavens so that it will not rain and the ground will yield no produce....” Deuteronomy 28:12: “The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands.”

Second Heaven - Outer Space, the starry heavens (Deuteronomy 17:3; Jeremiah 8:2; Matthew 24:29).

The second heaven is the starry heavens, where our atmosphere ends. It is the heavens in which the sun, moon, and stars are fixed in orbit. The stars are seemingly endless and the distance between all of them is staggering no wonder the Bible states Psalm 19:1 “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His handiwork.” In ancient times people were in awe of the starry expanse, today we know how immense this really is.

The firmament, or expanse, raqiya` “In which the sun, moon, stars, and constellations are fixed.” Genesis 1:17: And God placed them in the Firmament of heaven. Isaiah 40:22: He stretcheth out the heavens as a CURTAIN, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.”

(Psalm 19:4,6) - “In the heavens he has pitched a tent for the sun... It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other;...” (Jeremiah 8:2) - They will be exposed to the sun and the moon and all the stars of the heavens which they have loved and served....”

Third Heaven - This is where God and the holy angels (and creatures) and spirits of just men dwell. It is called “The heaven of heavens,” (Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; Psalms 115:16; 148:4). (1Kings 8:27) - “The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you.” (Psalm 2:4) The One enthroned in heaven laughs; The LORD scoffs at them.”

The third heaven is beyond the space and stars. Where no man has seen by telescope. This heaven is the dwelling-place of God, to which Paul was taken, and whose wonders he was permitted to behold-this region where God dwells.

It is specifically named “the third heaven” by Paul in 2 Cor.12:2. Paul mentions being caught up to paradise in 2 Corinthians 12:4 the word “paradise” describes a different facet of “the third heaven.”

“2 Corinthians 12:4 The word “paradise” paradeisos (NT:3808) occurs but three times in the New Testament; Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7. It occurs often in the Septuagint, as the translation of the word garden; Genesis 2:8-10,15-16; 3:1-3,8,16,23-24; 13:10; Numbers 24:6; Isaiah 51:3; Ezekiel 28:13; 31:8-9; Joel 2:3. And also Isaiah 1:30; Jeremiah 29:5; and of the word pardeec (OT:6508) in Nehemiah 2:8; Ecclesiastes 2:5; Song of Solomon 2:13” (from Barnes' Notes).

Heb 4:14 “Seeing then that we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, (Jesus ascended to the place he was before he became man) Heb. 7:26 “For such a High Priest was fitting for us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and has become higher than the heavens” meaning he is more important than the dwelling place of God and angels. Heb 8:1 As our high Priest, he “is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens.”

The word “heavens” is also used for visions or a spiritual event. Stephen said, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!” (Acts 7:56) Mark 1:10 When Jesus was baptized “He saw the heavens parting and the Spirit descending upon Him like a dove.”

The term heaven is used in a metaphor Isaiah 14:13,14; “doors of heaven” (Psalms 78:23); heaven “shut” (1 Kings 8:35); “opened” (Ezekiel 1:1). (The “kingdom of heaven” (Mt.25:1; Jms 2:5). The “eternal kingdom” (2 Pt.1:11).The “eternal inheritance” (1 Pt.1:4; Hebrews 9:15). The “better country” (Hebrews 11:14, 16).

Heaven is the abode of the righteous who are in possession of “everlasting life,” “an eternal weight of glory” (2 Corinthians 4:17), where they are delivered from all sufferings for ever, a deliverance from all evils (2 Corinthians 5:1,2). Christ calls it his “Father's house” (John 14:2), also “paradise” (Luke 23:43).

2 Cor. 12:4; Revelation 2:7). It is the location of “The heavenly Jerusalem” before it comes to earth (Galatians 4:26; Hebrews 12:22; Revelation 3:12).

Heaven is the inheritance of all believers where there is “fulness of joy,” everlasting blessedness. The “place, of our inheritance where Jesus went ahead to “prepare” for us (John 14:2) that we may be with him, where he is.
 
rodneyskinner;8455514 said:
Next Gem for disproving all of these books of the faith. Point to heaven. Point to Hell. We've been to both and we know there isn't anything there. When astronomers disproved the existence of a God living above the clouds in space they came up with Taco Bell Heaven. 7 layer Burrito heaven. God does not live in Outer Space. There is no hell on the earth. 7 Layer burrito heaven didn't exist. Way to prove. The original Jews had 1 word for the sky it was heaven. That included the clouds and stars. They seperated cloud heaven from space heaven by calling them heaven and the highest heaven also known as the heaven of the heavens. We've been all over space and even in the depiction of Jesus returning in Revelation depicts its from space well no god in space. Now watch they'll defend 7 layer burrito heaven with everything but the Bible while I debunked it with only the bible. The bible doesn't have any explanation that says an address of God @ 1 heaven of the heaven of the heaven of the heaven of the heaven (where the gorbots live) of the heaven of the Heavens. I think the Old Testament, New Testament, and the Koran are pretty big Business cards for god that could hold that address.

Have you even been on an Airplane before? What about a spaceship?
 
zzombie;8455599 said:
phukkyou2;8455426 said:
zzombie;8455174 said:
phukkyou2;8455108 said:
zzombie;8455047 said:
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too
 
zzombie;8455612 said:
rodneyskinner;8455503 said:
zzombie;8450380 said:
rodneyskinner;8450298 said:
"The " rabbi" is corrupt that is why jesus preached against the rabbis of his time. Shortly after he ascended the temple was destroyed as he said it would be AND THE jews went into horrible suffering for about 1,000 years"

How to kill Jesus in 10 seconds. "None of the genealogies tracing Jesus's ancestry align with each other. Chronicles, Matthew, Luke."

There are different because one is focused on Mary and the other Joseph. One is to show that he has the right to sit on the throne of David and the other one is to Show that he was not the biological son of Joseph.

That's a cognitive dissonance lie given to you by the people who want you to believe in the books that put your ancestors in bondage. First off even if that's true which its not they should still line up with Chronicles which they don't. Next if you believe in the Bible Luke clearly says he's not a supportive account but is actually the only acount. If the Bible is Gospel and true LUKE differentiates his account in Luke 1:1-4 as being exact truth.

I am not African American, the denomination I am in is like nothing most African Americans experience. I am a maroon and nobody ever forced any religion onto me or mines Or put us in bondage using their religion so don't speak about my ancestors you know nothing about them and I don't think foolish black atheists are aware of the implications of saying that even tho it's 2015 black people are still in bondage because of religion.

Jesus being the son of David lines up perfectly with the laws of the O.T which is why originally so many jews proclaimed him the messiah.

Apparently it doesn't line up. And that's coming from the people who actually wrote down what was crackin then
 
phukkyou2;8455819 said:
zzombie;8455599 said:
phukkyou2;8455426 said:
zzombie;8455174 said:
phukkyou2;8455108 said:
zzombie;8455047 said:
phukkyou2;8454990 said:
zzombie;8454893 said:
phukkyou2;8454861 said:
zzombie;8454849 said:
jesus saved our souls next he will save our ass

that's not his name

You know what i mean and i could call him light bulb it makes no difference

it does make a difference, the difference is idoltry. It's no different than worshipping a wooden bull or a golden hen.

maybe that's how the devil got people to think independently of G-d in the first place. By giving G-d a likeness for the people to admire

Nigga are you thinking before you type??? you can't idolize a name.

A name is not a physical thing like a wooden bull or golden hen. I mean nigga STOP and think, what if in my language i can't pronounce the original name??? i will necessarily call him something else. The name is unimportant it's what's behind the name that counts.

It's not just a name. It's a particular individual. And not just any individual, but a wicked one.

That counts for something. Especially when it's the Centerpiece to your Soul. You're literally worshipping someone else who was supposed to be someone else theirself in the first place. Even if it's done from a "thoughtful" perspective, it's the literal definition of Idolatry.

Not only is that not his actual name. Today it's literally based on OPPOSITE of what YAhweh actually looked like.

I hear you on the "it's the thoughts that count" shit but the facts matter more. And according to the facts that's not even The Messiah

My nigga you are talking out of your ass the particular individual is the son of mary aka the son of man aka the son of god aka the fisher of men aka the lamb aka the anointed one etc etc etc.

HIS real earthly name was not unique so simply using his real name is not important what is important is where you direct your soul.

Your pharisaical nonsense about using the correct earthly name is exactly the kind of thing that he was against mindless tradition with no inner spiritual meaning is what it is

How do you not see anything wrong with worshipping an idea of somebody that isn't the true somebody in the first place?

Jesus isn't supposed to be an alias. Cesare Borgia isn't supposed to be some sort of cloak for him either.

You're opening yourself up to worshipping False Idols. G-d never said he had a Son waitin for us, he specifically said "Messiah".

Sorry I don't consider God to be cesare borgia and Jesus isn't an alias. my idea of God isn't from anyplace else except the bible. Jesus Is a translation into a language I can speak.

The messiah came and he gave himself the title son of God. You can believe what you wish but Faith in him has proven nothing but beneficial to me and mines

But you DO consider G-d Cesare Borgia, your faith of Today proves that. You can't say you're worshipping G-d by having an image of another Being as your source. That's like me worshipping a Plastic Rat and saying that I'm honoring & worshipping the true G-d

His name was also YAhweh. As in Y - A -hweh. There is no E in that. If it's supposed to be a translation then it's supposed to be Jasus, or better yet Yasus. And he can't title himself anything, G-d can only do that. The books tell of a Messiah, not HIS own Son even though technically we're all the children of G-d. So that means by his account, I am "the Son of G-d" too

God has no image and the pictures of jesus are not the source of faith once again you are talking nonsense, don't think that because someone creates a picture of what they think jesus looked like then that means all christians think that's what he looked like.

once again i am not a jew i am a believer the teachings of christ and christ had an earthly name that translates as jesus. The messiah Jesus the Christ said he was the son of god and the son of man. if you want to be a black jew go right on ahead
 
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