If Manning wins Another Ring

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If he does win he will only have 2 superbowl rings,he still will be a Hall Of Famer anyway...I want drew Brees to win him one, i wanna see if Reggie Bush will marry Kim K also
 
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look you hvae to remeber that brady knew all the plays that defense was going to do, the fool had a advantage so yeah payton better and he doing with no running back
 
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the only people who say brady is better are patriot fans

anyone with a non biased opinion can see who is the better qb...its clear as day
 
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millz_flybridge;107765 said:
how long u been watchin football fam?.....what u gon say? Brady had no-name recievers right.....

but, how many of us knew about Austin Collie and Pierre Garcon before this year? how many of us knew about Anthony Gonzalez last year?.....Brady always had the better defense and the BEST offensive line in the league which he still has

Peyton has a real good O line this year kinda. (I dunno bout run blocking tho). but CO-SIGN the receivers. Every receiver that steps on the field for the colts ends up lookin far above average. Brady just can't do the same with his receivers. Honestly if Garcon or Collie stays in the #2 receiver spot for the next few years haters will be saying Manning only put up better numbers cuz he had Harrison,Wayne,Clark, and Garcon/Collie his whole career.
 
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Sym_;109274 said:
the only people who say brady is better are patriot fans

anyone with a non biased opinion can see who is the better qb...its clear as day

So only Patriots fans think Brady is better? By your logic I could say only Colts fans think Payton is better......... Well tell me why Manning is better.......

bow to royalty;109416 said:
Peyton has a real good O line this year kinda. (I dunno bout run blocking tho). but CO-SIGN the receivers. Every receiver that steps on the field for the colts ends up lookin far above average. Brady just can't do the same with his receivers. Honestly if Garcon or Collie stays in the #2 receiver spot for the next few years haters will be saying Manning only put up better numbers cuz he had Harrison,Wayne,Clark, and Garcon/Collie his whole career.

You should read some earlier post.....
 
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millz_flybridge;107752 said:
LOL @ surpass Brady

Brady is the 1 playin catch-up....he got em in Rings, and postseason wins, but in individual Quarterback stats Brady isnt even close

This guy knows his shit

Stats, stats, stats
 
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ya boi g;111279 said:
So only Patriots fans think Brady is better? By your logic I could say only Colts fans think Payton is better......... Well tell me why Manning is better.......

You should read some earlier post.....

I wasn't saying he was right/wrong in response to you. I was just agreeing about the receivers because a lot of Manning haters say Manning only puts up big numbers because he keeps getting handed great receivers. Wasn't a shot at you...just agreeing that Manning makes receivers better.
 
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Son......Brady Got 3 Rings!!!!! in less time. With a horrid offensive team. An okay D. And a good kicker. Anybody is who isnt bias knows & understands, that the Patriots NEVER had any top super stars on that team excluding Rodney Harrison & Seymour & Ty Law. The whole magic about the Patriots was the system. They took average to below average players & made them seem like Gods. Bill Belechick was a god at that. I mean cmon son. Teddy fucking Bruschi. I cant even remember the other bullshit ass lineman & linebackers. Patriots never had an unbelievable team.

Tom Brady had to throw to old ass Joey Galloway & had Antwoine Smith/Kevin Faulk running the ball. THESE WERE THE NIGGAS HE WAS PLAYING WITH.........WHILE WINNING 3 RINGS. BACK TO BACK. HIS FIRST 5-6 YEARS IN THE LEAGUE.

While Peyton Manning has Marvin Harrison, Edgerring James/Marshall Faulk, Reggie Wayne & a Good ass O-Line. Not only did he have all that, he was years older than Brady. He was a habitual choker for years in the playoffs. Threw so many interceptions, he made Brett Favre look smart. Cmon son. Peyton just recently got his shit together.........after only what, 10 years. Oh I know what the Peyton nut huggers are gonna say.........he had a horrible D during his early years.......well Brady had a HORRIBLE offense & a "just good enough to get the job done" Defense.

Now the good thing about Peyton is......he's doing it now with less weapons but, shouldnt he???? He's a 12 year veteran. He doesnt really need much to command a team anymore. Thats what Veterans do. Similar to Brett Favre with the Vikings, before Brett, only weapon on that Team was AP. So that isnt really an argument my nigga...........PEYTON IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE STARS. Not saying that a rookie QB like Sanchez or Brady early on couldve but, since Peyton has been in the league for 12 years, he not in the same field anymore.

Facts is Facts. Brady has 3 rings. Against more formidable teams. Did so in Less Time. With less weapons........considering the fact he was a newbie. Has the heart & was able to win all of those tough games with winning drives. Peyton has 1. Not 2. Not 2 Yet!!!!! Just 1 Ring. I dont see the comparison. STATS dont mean shit without Hardware. Thats like saying Marino is better than Montana. I JUST DONT SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN HAVE SUCH SELECTIVE MEMORY........EVERYTHING PEYTON HAS BEEN DOING......BRADY DID EARLIER & WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER & LESS EXPERIENCED.
 
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poetic justice;107530 said:
He's BEEN better than Brady his whole career. Stats wise, and just in terms of accolades for an individual. Brady only has better team and postseason success because of his team having a better D than Paytons. This year was the first where Brady didn't have the better D and you see how far he went without it. If anybody says that Payton ain't the better QB, they're just slobbin' Brady's knob better than Gisele could ever dream of doing......

vageneral08;107557 said:
Someone who knows their football....some dumb muthafuckas just saying brady is more clutch....that shit has nothing to do with it niggas just dont want to give manning his props

Word its just like the Lebron and Kobe debate, everybody know Lebron is better than Kobe so the only thing they use is the fact that he has rings....but once Lebron get his they try and use this "clutch" and "skill" BS. Peyton has been better than Brady, if he gets the ring i'm sure people will come up with something new.
 
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bless the child;111807 said:
Word its just like the Lebron and Kobe debate, everybody know Lebron is better than Kobe so the only thing they use is the fact that he has rings....but once Lebron get his they try and use this "clutch" and "skill" BS. Peyton has been better than Brady, if he gets the ring i'm sure people will come up with something new.

opinion = butt mud. rings = facts. 81 points = facts. 5 games in a row scoring more than 50 points = facts. more clutch shots/hits when it counts = facts.

i mean what r u talking about really. you keep talking about.......everyone is delusional for their opinions, when theirs is backed up with fact & yours just opinion. Where was Lebron last year. In Cleveland eating Fritos. While Kobe was celebrating after beating the same team that Lebron could NOT!!!! Lebron is an animal & when COMPLETELY RUN this league after Kobe retires but, the truth is.......there is no documented evidence to prove or support your opinion that he's better or done more than Kobe. He doesnt have a ring. He leads the stats everyyear..........congrats.............YOU BASICALLY ARE ARGUING THAT A 6"9 260LB SCORING MACHINE THATS A NEW & IMPROVED VERSION OF ALLEN IVERSON IS BETTER THAN A EQUALLY TALENTED PLAYER WITH 4 RINGS. REALLY, CMON SON?????

Thats like saying Iverson is better than Jordan because he led the League in Stats for Years but, never produced anything while Jordan had 6 rings.
 
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Maalik;111742 said:
Son......Brady Got 3 Rings!!!!! in less time. With a horrid offensive team. An okay D. And a good kicker. Anybody is who isnt bias knows & understands, that the Patriots NEVER had any top super stars on that team excluding Rodney Harrison & Seymour & Ty Law. The whole magic about the Patriots was the system. They took average to below average players & made them seem like Gods. Bill Belechick was a god at that. I mean cmon son. Teddy fucking Bruschi. I cant even remember the other bullshit ass lineman & linebackers. Patriots never had an unbelievable team.

Tom Brady had to throw to old ass Joey Galloway & had Antwoine Smith/Kevin Faulk running the ball. THESE WERE THE NIGGAS HE WAS PLAYING WITH.........WHILE WINNING 3 RINGS. BACK TO BACK. HIS FIRST 5-6 YEARS IN THE LEAGUE.

While Peyton Manning has Marvin Harrison, Edgerring James/Marshall Faulk, Reggie Wayne & a Good ass O-Line. Not only did he have all that, he was years older than Brady. He was a habitual choker for years in the playoffs. Threw so many interceptions, he made Brett Favre look smart. Cmon son. Peyton just recently got his shit together.........after only what, 10 years. Oh I know what the Peyton nut huggers are gonna say.........he had a horrible D during his early years.......well Brady had a HORRIBLE offense & a "just good enough to get the job done" Defense.

Now the good thing about Peyton is......he's doing it now with less weapons but, shouldnt he???? He's a 12 year veteran. He doesnt really need much to command a team anymore. Thats what Veterans do. Similar to Brett Favre with the Vikings, before Brett, only weapon on that Team was AP. So that isnt really an argument my nigga...........PEYTON IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE STARS. Not saying that a rookie QB like Sanchez or Brady early on couldve but, since Peyton has been in the league for 12 years, he not in the same field anymore.

Facts is Facts. Brady has 3 rings. Against more formidable teams. Did so in Less Time. With less weapons........considering the fact he was a newbie. Has the heart & was able to win all of those tough games with winning drives. Peyton has 1. Not 2. Not 2 Yet!!!!! Just 1 Ring. I dont see the comparison. STATS dont mean shit without Hardware. Thats like saying Marino is better than Montana. I JUST DONT SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN HAVE SUCH SELECTIVE MEMORY........EVERYTHING PEYTON HAS BEEN DOING......BRADY DID EARLIER & WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER & LESS EXPERIENCED.

SMH I can't believe you just said brady had an ok D and horrid offense......nigga they won the superbowl 3 times!!!! the best team wins the superbowl!!!! duh how can you say they didnt have the team better against the colts when they kept beating the dog shit of out of them in the playoffs?????? c'mon joey galloway was doing his thing and kevin faulk was a beast at times when needed and the defense was little better than average and you think the colts were the better team???? lol if that's the case then manning would have 6 rings atleast now and we wouldn't be talking about this bottom line the pats were the better team against the colts during the 00-06 seasons they had their number but things have came to an end and it looks like the tables have turned
 
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vageneral08;111884 said:
SMH I can't believe you just said brady had an ok D and horrid offense......nigga they won the superbowl 3 times!!!! the best team wins the superbowl!!!! duh how can you say they didnt have the team better against the colts when they kept beating the dog shit of out of them in the playoffs?????? c'mon joey galloway was doing his thing and kevin faulk was a beast at times when needed and the defense was little better than average and you think the colts were the better team???? lol if that's the case then manning would have 6 rings atleast now and we wouldn't be talking about this bottom line the pats were the better team against the colts during the 00-06 seasons they had their number but things have came to an end and it looks like the tables have turned

Stop talking....
 
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Maalik;111742 said:
Son......Brady Got 3 Rings!!!!! in less time. With a horrid offensive team. An okay D. And a good kicker. Anybody is who isnt bias knows & understands, that the Patriots NEVER had any top super stars on that team excluding Rodney Harrison & Seymour & Ty Law. The whole magic about the Patriots was the system. They took average to below average players & made them seem like Gods. Bill Belechick was a god at that. I mean cmon son. Teddy fucking Bruschi. I cant even remember the other bullshit ass lineman & linebackers. Patriots never had an unbelievable team.

Tom Brady had to throw to old ass Joey Galloway & had Antwoine Smith/Kevin Faulk running the ball. THESE WERE THE NIGGAS HE WAS PLAYING WITH.........WHILE WINNING 3 RINGS. BACK TO BACK. HIS FIRST 5-6 YEARS IN THE LEAGUE.

While Peyton Manning has Marvin Harrison, Edgerring James/Marshall Faulk, Reggie Wayne & a Good ass O-Line. Not only did he have all that, he was years older than Brady. He was a habitual choker for years in the playoffs. Threw so many interceptions, he made Brett Favre look smart. Cmon son. Peyton just recently got his shit together.........after only what, 10 years. Oh I know what the Peyton nut huggers are gonna say.........he had a horrible D during his early years.......well Brady had a HORRIBLE offense & a "just good enough to get the job done" Defense.

Now the good thing about Peyton is......he's doing it now with less weapons but, shouldnt he???? He's a 12 year veteran. He doesnt really need much to command a team anymore. Thats what Veterans do. Similar to Brett Favre with the Vikings, before Brett, only weapon on that Team was AP. So that isnt really an argument my nigga...........PEYTON IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE STARS. Not saying that a rookie QB like Sanchez or Brady early on couldve but, since Peyton has been in the league for 12 years, he not in the same field anymore.

Facts is Facts. Brady has 3 rings. Against more formidable teams. Did so in Less Time. With less weapons........considering the fact he was a newbie. Has the heart & was able to win all of those tough games with winning drives. Peyton has 1. Not 2. Not 2 Yet!!!!! Just 1 Ring. I dont see the comparison. STATS dont mean shit without Hardware. Thats like saying Marino is better than Montana. I JUST DONT SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN HAVE SUCH SELECTIVE MEMORY........EVERYTHING PEYTON HAS BEEN DOING......BRADY DID EARLIER & WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER & LESS EXPERIENCED.

Rings aren't a good measurement of how good a QB is. For example in those Superbowls, let's say the kicker missed. Then the other team came back and scored a FG as time ran out. Would that make Brady any worse of a QB? He would have put the team in the same position, but would have one less ring. Superbowls are a team effort. Superbowls are great to win, but they're a reflection of a team...not of 1 of 22 starters (not counting special teams). Deion Branch has superbowl rings...Randy Moss has 0. So Branch is better than Moss?
 
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Maalik;111893 said:
Stop talking....

You need to stop talking because all you saying is rings rings rings......take the rings away and what do you have????? exactly look at how the pats did without brady they made matt cassel look good and they had good record 11-5....do you think the colts can win 11 games without manning? no stop your nonsense because you make no sense
 
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bow to royalty;111895 said:
Rings aren't a good measurement of how good a QB is. For example in those Superbowls, let's say the kicker missed. Then the other team came back and scored a FG as time ran out. Would that make Brady any worse of a QB? He would have put the team in the same position, but would have one less ring. Superbowls are a team effort. Superbowls are great to win, but they're a reflection of a team...not of 1 of 22 starters (not counting special teams). Deion Branch has superbowl rings...Randy Moss has 0. So Branch is better than Moss?

close thread....maalik doesn't know his shit
 
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bow to royalty;111895 said:
Rings aren't a good measurement of how good a QB is. For example in those Superbowls, let's say the kicker missed. Then the other team came back and scored a FG as time ran out. Would that make Brady any worse of a QB? He would have put the team in the same position, but would have one less ring. Superbowls are a team effort. Superbowls are great to win, but they're a reflection of a team...not of 1 of 22 starters (not counting special teams). Deion Branch has superbowl rings...Randy Moss has 0. So Branch is better than Moss?

weak argument. rings have been used to seperate great quarterbacks for decades. you know Randy Moss & Deion Branch arent comparable because they're not even on the same stratosphere. Whenever you have two comparable players, usually Quarterbacks, once you've digested every bit of data to compare the two, you go to the Rings, which is the great divider. Peyton & Brady are comparable players...........this isnt like Dilfer vs Montana..........both these niggas is top QBs........you argument is weak.

Brady is better. simply because he did win more rings in less time with a lesser cast & was 24-27 when doing so.
 
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vageneral08;111900 said:
You need to stop talking because all you saying is rings rings rings......take the rings away and what do you have????? exactly look at how the pats did without brady they made matt cassel look good and they had good record 11-5....do you think the colts can win 11 games without manning? no stop your nonsense because you make no sense

son..........Im not even gonna argue with a nigga who said "Kevin Faulk was balling at times"...........thats the dumbest shit Ive ever read.
 
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Maalik;111910 said:
son..........Im not even gonna argue with a nigga who said "Kevin Faulk was balling at times"...........thats the dumbest shit Ive ever read.

smh you must've not seen those games......SON when brady didnt pass the running game was killing the colts.....they had the worse rushing defense how the fuck can you say kevin faulk wasn't getting his???
 
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vageneral08;111900 said:
You need to stop talking because all you saying is rings rings rings......take the rings away and what do you have????? exactly look at how the pats did without brady they made matt cassel look good and they had good record 11-5....do you think the colts can win 11 games without manning? no stop your nonsense because you make no sense

hmm. A relatively good QB.........in the same situation as Brady years earlier with Bledsoe being injured. With a Good Young Running back, Wes Welker & Randy Moss does a good job at being a QB.........surprise. Micheal Jordan retired from the Bulls & Scottie Pippen led that to a 65-17 Season & the east conference finals. Does that make Jordan any less of a player. No. Neither does it with Brady. The Patriots had a loaded team in 08. LUCKILY.......THAT DOESNT MATTER WHEN CONCERNING HIS RINGS.......SEEING AS BACK THEN, HE DIDNT HAVE ONE AS GOOD AS TODAY
 
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